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Just a reminder of that sage market wisdom, "Buy low and sell high." :) I wonder what time it is now? ;)

 

 

Time to buy.

 

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- January offered up an apology to discouraged investors.

 

Unlike 2011, when markets spiked and sunk several hundred points each day but ultimately closed out the year relatively flat, all three indexes mostly climbed higher throughout the month with occasional dips.

 

The Nasdaq climbed 8% in January and the S&P 500 and Dow each added 3.4% and 4.4%. Absent, so far in 2012, are the heart wrenching daily drops and pops in stocks.

 

Even with a choppy trading day Tuesday, it was the best January for the S&P and Dow since 1997 and since 2001 for the Nasdaq.

 

 

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Personally, I've been selling some of my positions and taking some profit. While the market overall performed what I would call poorly last year I think the risk is higher this year than last for something "bad" happening. Personally, I sell when I think the market has met my goals, and buy when everyone else is selling... :) Just what I've been doing. I certainly don't recommend it to anyone else.

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Time to buy.

 

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- January offered up an apology to discouraged investors.

 

Hmmmmmm.... CNN.....

 

A different perspective Incredibly accurate if you look back at the last six or so years of postings there.

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Hmmmmmm.... CNN.....

 

 

The CNN article was a simple statement of fact not investment advice. Are you suggesting that CNN fabricated the numbers for January and that they are false? If so, can you present your proof?

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The CNN article was a simple statement of fact not investment advice. Are you suggesting that CNN fabricated the numbers for January and that they are false? If so, can you present your proof?

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ed

 

Nope.....

 

However I do find the statement "Time to Buy" to be far from a simple statement of FACT.

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Time to buy is my personal opinion. My personal opinion was clearly was not in the CNN article you questioned.

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Excuse me.... where do you see a question or even a question mark in my original post...... my post was just what it says.... a site that gives a different perspective on the financial markets than you will ever get on CNN, and no that site doesn't and never has given financial advise.

 

As far as your admitted personal opinion of "Time to Buy" .... ok...... get er done if that's what you want to do.....

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use a monthly chart w/ bollinger bands and a 9 ema for long term direction. Determine trend with a 9ema and shorter time period (eg, daily). If the ema is making higher lows, the trend is up and long positions are called for. Long and exit are the signals. If the ema is making lower highs, short and exit are the signal (although for most people short positions are not appropriate). Do not try to pick highs or lows. Cost me too much to learn that, but it is free for you right here. If you are as hard headed as I was then you will lose money like I did.

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Timing the market using any technique is not something very many people can make work. Some do, though.

 

I tend to invest on fundamentals, and on investments that meet my overall goals. And if the world wide economic indicators are poor, I take that into account in my decision making, depending on the particular investment. Some investments are more affected than others by economic conditions.

 

The only time I "time" the market is when it is so low (because of panic) that I feel it is a no-brainer. In that case, if I have cash - and I usually do - I invest in solid companies that have taken a big hit, or in mutual funds that meet my goals. Both usually work well for me.

 

That is what I do in a nutshell....so far, so good (over 40 years.....). I do tend to hold things for reasonable lengths of time....and I have been told by many "experts" (usually on forums) that this strategy does not work. Oh, well.....guess it doesn't for some. But it works well enough for me.

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I agree, few can time the market. But what are you doing if you enter and exit the market based upon signals (or feelings)? I remember getting mostly out in 2000 and buying when it was a no brainer in Sept 2001. Unfortunately, I did not identify the no brainer exit. Since I am also a long term investor I ended up ahead, but the drawdown was not fun. For the record: since I am now retired, I no longer trade - just maintain a well diversified portfolio which I rebalance twice a year.

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I sure hope some folks heeded my advice to buy Tesla if it hit in the low 20's, specifically 22 dollars a share or thereabouts when it dropped to that exactly two weeks and one day ago. It is back up to over 30 today and will likely close at a price where anyone who did buy a block at 22.25 when it dropped can make 8 dollars on each share bought at that price. I missed it completely and it never did give me a second chance to buy that low. Motley Fool has been cheering anything negative about Tesla since they IPO'd and then admitting that maybe they are looking at it wrong and then doing a 180 on that. Seeking Alpha at least had some people who stayed the course and even invested themselves as told by disclosures. Now Motley is at it again.

I believe that they have changed their advice at least 12 times in 12 months! :lol: Now here they are again changing their mind.

 

Excerpt:

 

"Tesla = Apple?

A little more than a month ago, fans of electric-car pioneer Tesla Motors (Nasdaq: TSLA ) got shocking news: Morgan Stanley, long a fan of the stock, had turned coat on Tesla. Downgrading from an overweight rating, Morgan skipped right past the traditional pit stop at neutral and went straight to an underweight rating on the stock. (Wall Street-speak for "sell.")Key to Morgan's sell thesis was a major rethink on the popularity of electric cars. According to the analyst, as far out as 15 years from now, we're still probably only going to see e-cars making up about 5% of global car sales. Pretty small beans considering some of the companies that have been talking up the concept, but not everyone agrees with this downbeat assessment.

 

Case in point: Yesterday, at the break of dawn, rival banker Jefferies & Co. initiated coverage of Tesla with a buy rating and a bold pronouncement: "If Apple made a car, this could be it! Tesla's strategy is based on a combination of technology, performance, unconventional marketing, and a 'cool factor.'"

 

The way Jefferies sees it, comparing Tesla's (old) Roadster or (new) Model S to the green econoboxes on offer like Ford's (NYSE: F ) Focus, Toyota's (NYSE: TM ) Prius, or General Motors' (NYSE: GM ) Volt is entirely the wrong way to look at these things. Tesla's real rival, writes Jefferies, is not any of the profitable mass-market vehicle makers, but rather luxury-car builders such as BMW (OTC: BAMXY), noting the appropriate economic question is "Would you buy a Model S with similar price/performance to a BMW 5-series and the ability to use cheaper electric fuel?" And more to the point, would you buy Tesla's luxury e-buggy over BMW's premium gas-guzzler if you knew that, say, Leonardo DiCaprio owned a Tesla?

 

Because, as it just so happens, he does. And so does Dustin Hoffman. And Jay Leno. And Matt Damon, Sergey Brin, and... Condoleezza Rice. Fact is, there's a whole website devoted to spotting "cool" celebrities in their Tesla-mobiles. And if Wall Street, Silicon Valley, and the upper echelons of the Washington, D.C., elite all think that Tesla is cool, maybe you should, too."

They go on to a surprising conclusion that is nothing more than an attempt to save face. See, they like others have mistakenly been lumping the Tesla in with the greenie econocars since Tesla IPO'd. Here's the article in full:

http://www.fool.com/...downgrades.aspx

 

I bring this up because were I a regular or a novice investor trying to choose my first investment, and listened to the "experts," I would be losing my butt. Motley says buy Tesla when it is almost at the highest it has been pre Model S release, and they always say sell or stay away when it drops because of investor panic. :blink::P

 

I missed my price because as the latest comments suggest I sure could not time the market, but I have been saying all along that it would drop once more before the debut of production of their second model after their successful Roadster series was sold out. Watch them change 180 within the month. Almost every so called expert had no clue as to what an EV was versus a hybrid, no understanding of the technologies in use, and no clue who held the patents for the important part . . . the battery tech. And these were the self proclaimed experts. No wonder folks lose their shirts in the market. They are listening to idiots with no clue who are listening to idiots with no clue and the only thing all the idiots have in common is they have a lot of money and want to hang onto it by dealing in only things they know like housing and oil. After all, they couldn't fail to make big bucks in that even when they failed the investors and destroyed the companies that were too big to let fail. And not one of them went to jail, they took big bonuses for getting the bail outs! I do know the industries and technologies I have followed and until lately, and by that I mean in the last two weeks, the articles were as if written by elementary school children. It is because IMHO the people feel very threatened because this technology is disruptive. We will perhaps just begin to see how disruptive in the next 365 days.

 

Anyway I hope someone here did get a block at that price even though I was too late. But that is OK. We are saving that block and are adding to it to buy into the Facebook IPO or back into Tesla if it drops once more before debut. I have finally learned that when you want to buy if a stock drops all I have to do is put a buy order in and the buy happens automatically when it reaches that low. Had i not been paying attention I would have missed my second big block price however. I had to raise my bid a nickel to get my shares. So having a buy order can fail as well.;)

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You beat me to it Ed!

Nasdaq reaches 11-year high; Dow at highest level since before 2008 financial crisis

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/markets/stock-futures-jump-after-us-jobs-report-shows-lower-unemployment-strong-job-growth/2012/02/03/gIQAYroimQ_story.html?wpisrc=al_comboNE_b

 

Now since I started buying triple the shares monthly starting when the crash in share prices came in 2007/8 and kept on doing that until last year when I jumped into my first stock pick, it has been pretty amazing. I am sitting on a Tesla close at 31 plus up from the 22.25 of 16 days ago. That just North of what I pad for my second block last August. My money is doing a heck of a lot better than it did earning less than .5% interest in a bank money market account, or the what? - 2% max for long term CDs?

:D

No calculator methods. No strategies. Just buy low, sell high. I will never know how low they will go, nor if they will go higher. as said no one can predict the market timing. I don't need to as long as I buy low and sell high. It seems to me that when the least ripple happens to frighten people they sell at a loss following the herd stampede. Then, when the prices are high they feel more secure and buy in case they can make a small profit, but are like a cat on a hot tin roof. Just plain jumpy.

 

I used to have an answer for folks looking for a shortcut in shooting competitions. I would tell them that the trick is to shoot out the middle of the ten ring, and then once you have done that, shoot all the rest of your bullets off the target completely so no hits outside of the ten ring show up. Then they have to count all the ones they can't see holes for as going through the middle shot out hole. Some never figured it out.

 

Buy low sell high has the same simplicity. If you can shoot the middle out, you don't need a shortcut. If you buy the right stocks by knowing the companies, not the picks of others, and have a feel for the industry you choose to own some of, then buy when stocks are down, and sell when they are up, you win. Greedy is when the trouble starts. And we will never be big enough to get first dibs on the presale of IPOs as they offer multi million dollar preferred customers. In the casinos they call them high rollers.:lol:

 

Six months ago I did get an email from one who played with a small block of Tesla and wish they had bought more. Now I know they are happy. But don't look for me to be right again, in fact I already decided that Facebook is not in my future for many reasons, but this article says it best.

http://www.techrepub...156?tag=nl.e101

 

I almost started believing I knew something about the stock market and I don't. I knew something about Apple when they announced they were going to switch to Intel chipsets and what that meant. I knew a lot about Tesla and where they have been before IPO and who Elon Musk is. But I got cocky when I wrote that and that won't happen again. I prefer to be a dummy and make a bit of profit than a greedier gambler and have to know when to fold em.

 

Hope all have a great weekend!

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No calculator methods. No strategies. Just buy low, sell high.

 

sounds sooooo simple, doesn't it!

 

but think about it: if it were so simple, everyone would be in the Warren Buffet class.

 

very few are so there must be something not so simple there.

 

Then consider the idea that those who gained the most during the California gold rush were the merchants, not the gold miners. With stocks, it is the folks managing the trades and transactions (e.g. Wall Street) that most consistently make a profit because they sell a service and don't gamble on unknowns.

 

The pension funds are also worth considering. They buy the services of the smartest people they can find to "buy low, sell high" and generally do get an overall rate of return better than most index funds ... but nothing like returns even 20% or higher as suggested in some comments.

 

The Facebook IPO is a reminder of the heyday of the VC craze back ten or fifteen years ago. Talk about buying low with a promise of immediate large gains! The problem is that many of the companies going public were more like Solyndra than Google or Microsoft or, maybe, Facebook.

 

Short term? Good luck. Too often it is like the lottery with the odds against you.

 

Long term? You can spread out the risk for better odds. You will need a model of some sort. You will need some way to determine when "low" is not going to go "lower" and when "high" is high enough.

 

Your model can be random and depend upon economic growth as the basis. It can be based on existing successes in an index fund which, again, depends mostly upon overall economic growth. It can be based on fads (like Tesla) hoping they will grow out of the 'fad' phase. The benefits tend to go with the risks.

 

What you do (or should) know is that investing in stocks is investing in the potential for making wealth, making something out of nothing. That is growth. By investing, you hope to share in that growth. The capital investment is only one of the ingredients in that recipe. The other ingredients, market, people, and government, all have their influence on the wealth creation as well and it is those 'other ingredients' that make things 'not so simple' and the investment of capital an activity where massive gains are not assured. What can be assured is that, if an economy grows, your investments likely will as well if you spread them out a bit to spread the risks. So they question "are you still in?" is really a question about whether or not the world is going down the tubes or will the problems be fixed and lessons be learned and the miracle of the last 150 years continue?

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OK, I'm confused. In response to "Buy low sell high" just the other day you said "buy." Now you give us the headline link above that says, "Dow at 4-year high, Nasdaq hits 11-year high" so I take it you are now telling us it is time to sell eh? Buy low and sell high, right?

 

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Yes if you bought at the lowest. However we have a lot of IRA funds that are looking very nice and we hope will continue on their upward trend until we both hit 62 or 65 in the next couple of years. (I turn 60 this May and my SH is 2 years my junior.) OK I posted this before but it makes total sense to me and I was guilty of falling for my own hubris when I said we would surely do the Facebook IPO. Right now I can sell and make more than 9 bucks a share averaged across my two buys. That is an actual increase of 38.88 percent and the profit is an actual 27.2% profit. If I sell now I will be fine, but I know that the Model S debut when it actually happens will drive the stock through the roof. So my choices are to sell when I double my money and walk away and never look back unless it tanks and I think it will come back again later. Or to hang on and see if it climbs with the success and my initial plan was to ride it out through the end of this year and cash out. Or I can hang on longer term. I agree that it is a tad bit more complicated than buy low sell high. I said it is about knowing the industry and knowing the players and their track records for several years if not decades back. And that investing is being a partner in my mind. But it has been changed into a high stakes computerized game of numbers, with little knowledge of the players beyond some supposed expert comments.

 

All I am saying is that most folks are way too emotional, and think their calculators can take the place of having a feel for the players at the helm of a prospective company. If cynical I could say that the CEO boys club is a rotation for 3 to five years to add another golden parachute reaping to the chain. And that is somewhat true until you get to disruptive technologies, and industries. How do you decide a Pay Pal is the way to go before it is developed and as the VC for the first round of financing? To me an IPO is the final release after the beta of the venture capital being paid off, or to pay it off and letting others in as partners. Like the military, no matter what technology we have, we still need boots on the ground, and people at the helms. I like having rocket scientists running a company, people who understand the engineering both hardware and software. But even that isn't enough the person needs to have a business background and a track record. The guy runni9ng Tesla is all of the above. Go here and scroll down to Elon Musk's two para bio:

http://www.spacex.com/company.php

 

My next investment is going to be in rockets I hope.

 

I don't invest. I don't know the markets. But I will say this. I agree that we would all be Warren Buffets if we could actually buy low and sell high. I just know Tesla and Musk, among a few other companies I may invest in. But Tesla and Musk have been my focus and until they IPO'd I could do nothing more than watch them actually make it happen. Warren Buffet shares his methods but folks don't seem to listen. I have said I am in it for the long term but that can change. http://beginnersinve...arrenquotes.htm

 

What I am talking about when i say that folks don't seem to buy low and sell high is what this page is all about and I posted it here many weeks ago already:

http://www.tflguide....situations.html

 

That would be funny if it were not totally true. Do we have any Warren Buffets here? Seriously anybody who can't lose? I can.

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OK, I'm confused. In response to "Buy low sell high" just the other day you said "buy." Now you give us the headline link above that says, "Dow at 4-year high, Nasdaq hits 11-year high" so I take it you are now telling us it is time to sell eh? Buy low and sell high, right?

 

Cheers John

 

That is exactly my dilemma, John.

My "buy" post was on January 31st, which, as it turns out, was a very good day to buy most of the ETF's that reflect the broad market. Now the question is what to do on Monday Feb 6th? Do I sit tight or sell and take some profits? If I sell, what do I do with the cash? Put in a MM account earning just a hair over 0%? Buy bonds? Buy foreclosed real estate? ????

As several have said, and a large group of investment companies can prove, market timing rarely works. I'm here for the long haul. I have nothing invested in the stock market that I'll need for the next 5 to 10 years. But, it is nice to book a profit now and then. Sometimes the Dark Side takes control over common sense and I just can't avoid market timing.

Decisions, decisions. :blink:

On Sunday I'll see what the stock futures are doing then decide.

Stock Futures Site:

 

http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/stocks/futures/

 

What I really should doing on Monday is nothing. But will I??

 

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...... However we have a lot of IRA funds that are looking very nice and we hope will continue on their upward trend until we both hit 62 or 65 in the next couple of years. (I turn 60 this May and my SH is 2 years my junior.) ...... Do we have any Warren Buffets here?

 

As several famous people have said, "Hope is not a strategy". Betting on IPO is mostly for gamblers and speculators - not investors. Regarding the excitement over the upcoming Facebook IPO consider the following from today's Barron's:

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Ron,

The strategy was to switch many years ago from the Putnam funds we held and were screwed by Putnam over, to USAA funds managed by our people. Our strategy with our funds as long as they are making money was to switch our more aggressive USAA funds over to the USAA Income fund and the USAA Target retirement fund 2020 in late 2007 and buying all the extra shares we could for two years (2008/9) while they were at rock bottom. Which was good as I was working at a great position and we had no debt, no house note, no car notes, our only expenses being food and utilities, so we banked most of it and put the rest in retirement funds. (We paid off our property within a year of gaining possession in 2003/4 as an additional investment diversification. Home is on 5 acres) Once the interest rates dropped from 4% on our performance index accounts we needed a place to put the money and were very happy that the Tesla IPO came along as I had been following their progress for the previous five years or more. It turned out perfectly as a vehicle for those funds in the previously performing index and money market accounts.

USAA funds rated 4 and five star by Morningstar: https://www.usaa.com/inet/imco_mutualfund/ImMorningstarFunds

The two funds we bought heavily in 2007/8/9

http://quote.morningstar.com/fund/f.aspx?t=USAIX

http://quote.morningstar.com/fund/f.aspx?t=URTNX

 

I am not an investor as I have said many times before here. And certainly no expert which I also have said here many times before in this thread. I do not advocate IPOs in general and invested in only one as a vehicle to make more than less than half a percent. I did feel very good about my activity in TSLA over the past year and a half. And the rest is in those two funds because I prefer to have money managers doing mine. They were bought when we saw the markets turning and on advice of our USAA people who are salaried not commission income financial advisors based on sales. I have found them over the years to be exactly what they claimed to be which was what I was looking for.

 

"When it comes to investing, you want results. Our disciplined approach to mutual fund management and performance stems from our military values of honesty, integrity, loyalty and service. The following USAA mutual funds have earned four or five stars from Morningstar based on their performance."

 

You see USAA is open only to military and retired military and their children. They are rock solid, in the top insurance and banking top five picks for places to work or to do biz with or both. Our bank was the first to provide scanning checks to deposit from home. They pioneered it long before the other banks provided it free to their customers and using their own home all in one machines.

 

So I have never played the stock market, IPO or otherwise, except by proxy through my edumacated fund managers at USAA and my advisors there, except for once. My Tesla investment. I was looking forward to their IPO for years. I bought in at around 20 and 22 and had a safe haven thus far for my one play. At its lowest a few weeks ago when everybody panicked I would have bought more had I known about it. I truly wish I had someone who had called me gloating thinking I would be hurt but instead I could have bought a lot more.

 

I am writing rather long here because I am completely confused about your post. You wrote:

"As several famous people have said, "Hope is not a strategy". Betting on IPO is mostly for gamblers and speculators - not investors. Regarding the excitement over the upcoming Facebook IPO consider the following from today's Barron's:"

 

That after quoting me about hoping my funds continue to do well. I first said I was going to invest in Facebook, and then retracted that and said essentially I was just feeling good about my Tesla position. I would not have lost if I sold when they were down a couple of weeks ago. (Well broke even is losing, I know)

So if you think I am advocating buying IPOs I am not. I only recommended stocks twice and both times here. Apple in 2005 and then Tesla. I have not bought a single share of any stock since I bought Tesla, and never bought a share of stock in my life before it.

 

If you go to the links of the funds we socked away a lot of money in when they were down perhaps you can understand what I meant when I said I hope they continue their upward climb overall for a few years more, and I think they will and much more as the world economies recover slowly, which they will IMHO.

 

I agree with Facebook being a bad deal, and disagree with folks who say it is going to be the next best thing. I could be wrong 100%. I don't worry because I am 100% right for me and my money.

 

Once more, I hope they continue to do well for us as they have so far through tough times. When times get a lot better we may go back to our other investments and start flipping houses again. We do all the work and keep all the profits (and mineral rights, we will continue to get monthly checks from the Gas well companies for drilling under our properties.)

 

I don't gamble at the local casinos and consider the lottery to be a tax for the math impaired. I also except this once don't gamble in the stock market personally. I will leave that to you.;)

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Unless you use the market as a form of gambling (which is entertainment, to me) then a properly diversified protfolio is key to success. It definately increases your odds. Not that you won't be "bit" sometimes....But putting substantial assets (percentage wise) into one investment vehicle is gambling. Just my opinion. .....

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You see USAA is open only to military and retired military and their children.

 

US Military service is all that is required by USAA. You do not have to be active or retired.

 

I don't qualify for the VFW or American Legion. But, I have an USAA account.

 

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Jack,

I call it making money. :lol: Seriously Jack thanks for making it clear.

 

My substantial money is in those diversified funds above. I am happy for anybody else here who is making money today, whatever they call it.

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Everybody else, I wanted to do this one company. Period. You all can gamble and/or invest all you want on paper only scenarios, or for real, online or off, and call it whatever you choose. If you win I will be genuinely happy for you. I am paid up, paid off, and set for life whether I make a gazillion bucks from this investment or not, which is not my substantial money.

 

I see no comments on the articles about the emotional reactions of those who call themselves investors, written by experts, nor the Buffet Quotes, nor the crazy ignorant reviews by the investment experts who would advise and could not tell an EV from a hybrid. (BTW I did the review of his son's album "Imaginary Kingdom" for Boomers International online in 2009: http://boomersint.or...ffettReview.htm , I never met him just corresponded a few times via email.)

All I can think is this:

http://home.earthlin...ylike/id66.html

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Retired AF 1971-1998


When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius

 

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire

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Jack,

I call it making money. :lol: Seriously Jack thanks for making it clear.

 

My substantial money is in those diversified funds above. I am happy for anybody else here who is making money today, whatever they call it.

 

 

I really was not referring to anyone in particular...I know you don't just have Telsa, Derek. Just like I don't have only one security.... :)

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