747Flyer Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 My Volvo 610 has a 10 speed. Every muscle car I ever owned had a manual. To me, shifting is a big part of the fun. It never gets old. I love " putting it through the box." I'm 66 years old. Wife says I'm a dinosaur. I'm in no way disparaging automatics or those that drive them. Resale is probably higher. Just curious though.... are there many like me left??😧 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottiedot Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 I like shifting, our freightshaker has a 9 speed, we own 6 other 4 wheeled vehicles, 4 of which also have standard transmissions……… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Makes no difference to me. Modern automatics and auto-shifts are quite good. Haven't owned a work pick-up w/ manual since '93. Of the 4 road tractors we've owned, only one was an auto-shift. I didn't like it at first, but when we went to Alaska I decided to give it a fair chance. Pretty much left it in auto after that. That said, out KW is a 13 spd. First car was a stick, and between the wife and I, we've had 6 or seven manual cars. Cuda and Challenger both stick, Vette was auto. All 8 of our motorcycles are manual. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWharton Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 I like shifting. Given a choice I would prefer to drive a stick shift. I had to give up my 1996 Honda a few years or so ago, I was devastated. Even today, I reach to shift and need to stop myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 One day in 1976 I was driving a 1970 Freightliner COE, Cummins Super 250, 4 speed main, 4 speed auxiliary transmissions, five axle semi trailer tanker, hauling gasoline. I kept a count going on a clipboard on the doghouse. I made somewhere around 1400 shifts in a 200 mile trip. 🤣 Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Our 610 Volvo is a 10sp as well. There are times I like it, and times its aggravating. We used it as a daily driver for 4 years so there were times my leg got tired of the clutch. Only clutched to get rolling... float everything else. Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
747Flyer Posted September 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 28 minutes ago, noteven said: One day in 1976 I was driving a 1970 Freightliner COE, Cummins Super 250, 4 speed main, 4 speed auxiliary transmissions, five axle semi trailer tanker, hauling gasoline. I kept a count going on a clipboard on the doghouse. I made somewhere around 1400 shifts in a 200 mile trip. 🤣 😲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 I like shifting myself. But sometimes compromises need to be made to gain the blessing of the CFO. So I ended up with an Ishift. My take on it is that any rookie can drive it, and anybody driving it looks like a rookie. It is nice in stop and go traffic/lights, but on the open road and even more so in the yard, I would much prefer a manual. I did buy up and install the premium shifter, at least solves the yard issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblr Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Only had manuals when I was employed but for my rv hauler got the semi auto, I do not mind shifting but did get spoiled fast with the auto. Had to go with a friend when he got his Volvo with a 10 speed, I will say jumped right in like I never stopped shifting and even enjoyed the 6 hour trip home. Plus remember a manual trans is also a theft deterrent for the newer generation. Quote 2017 River Stone Legacy 38MB 2001 T2000 Kenworth 2009 Smart Passion ET Junior hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms60ocb Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Not on the HDT side but I had my daughters learnto drive a manual before I would allow them to get their drivers license. 30+ years later they still prefer the manual shift. Clay Quote Clay & Marcie Too old to play in the snow Diesel pusher and previously 2 FW and small Class C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennisvr Posted September 7, 2021 Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 The only manual I have now days is my dune buggy. I do like to take it to town once in awhile. As for the HDT I have the 3 peddle autoshift and like it. Done enough shifting of trucks thru my career to last me awhile. I have caught myself manually shifting up and down the hills, it just doesn't shift to my liking going up and I will put in HOLD and shift it manually going down hill. Quote "It is better to have more truck than you need than to need more truck than you have" 2001 Volvo 660, Cummins 400 ISX, Eaton 3 Peddle Auto Shift 2014 Fuzion 40' Toyhauler 2015 Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) In the HDT, I prefer my Ultrashift 2 pedal transmission. I can concentrate more on watching my turns vs having to worry if I am in the right hear or not. We are not in any rush so no need to get up to speed quickly and it made it easier to teach the wife how to drive the HDT. Now, I do love my stick in my Eagle Talon but as we get older and the knees start acting up it makes it much harder to push the clutch in. Edited September 9, 2021 by Star Dreamer Quote 2005 Freightliner Century S/T, Singled, Air ride ET Jr. hitch 2019 46'+ Dune Sport Man Cave custom 5th wheel toy hauler Owner of the 1978 Custom Van "Star Dreamer" which might be seen at a local car show near you! Check out http://www.hhrvresource.com/ for much more info on HDT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travelrider73 Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 I used to like shifting. Now I'd prefer an auto. However, some automatics (especially in small vehicles) up-shift when you don't want them to even in "manual control" mode. That dangerous annoyance makes me wish that particular vehicle was a manual. I also prefer automatic because I can likely get my wife to drive it. Not sure if I could ever convince my wife to learn the manual for some reason. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL630 5th Wheel TBD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beemergary Posted September 8, 2021 Report Share Posted September 8, 2021 At 71 when I can't shift my 13 speed-hang it up When I can't drive my racecar in trailer and have to us a winch-hang it up. Still ride a 1969 Harley kick start-race vintage snowmobiles. Had a drop dead heart attack 9 yrs. ago. Open heart 3 yrs. ago. Hernia surgery 2 yrs. ago. Still run on a tread mill for heart stress test. Just make it. Think God wants me to follow my young brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 On 9/8/2021 at 11:06 AM, beemergary said: At 71 when I can't shift my 13 speed-hang it up When I can't drive my racecar in trailer and have to us a winch-hang it up. Still ride a 1969 Harley kick start-race vintage snowmobiles. Had a drop dead heart attack 9 yrs. ago. Open heart 3 yrs. ago. Hernia surgery 2 yrs. ago. Still run on a tread mill for heart stress test. Just make it. Think God wants me to follow my young brain. Often it's not what was "fixed" - but what couldn't be "fixed" in/on your old bod. There was a poster a few years back that wanted an HDT in the worst way - but found he couldn't have a manual trans due to an artificial leg. Sooooo - even though there are -no doubt- "work arounds", his preference of/for a manual trans was not an option. I'll be 80 next month - and still kick start my early 60s Triumph motorcycles. However, if you live where freeway (expressway - or whatever) has traffic that moves at -slow-creep-stop speeds for long stretches of the road....I'll take a car/truck with an auto anytime. (and do). BTW - my BIL races Super Gas, bracket II (9.90 et) with his '62 Corvette. Trans = (race ready) PowerGlide. His former racer (now a "street" car) '64 Vet has always been a stick.. His '62 Olds F-85 has had several of each over the years. Whatever works! - Run what ya brung! - 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 I dont mind shifting. My work truck has an Allison and I love it. HDT has a 10 speed manual. If the HDT were an auto Jen would be open to driving. She drove our crew cab long box pickup pulling a 33 ft 5th wheel and did really well. She just dont want to learn how to drive a manual. I dont understand why. She knows how to use a clutch becaus She operates farm equipment better than any of the guys out here. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 I help a bit on a local farm during harvest. Last night I was tasked to take the "ol International" tandem truck and take a dab of wheat off the combines that didn't fit in the sem eye at the end of the day. Gas engine, 5 & 4 tran missions. About 300 rpm gear split, and the kind of horsepower on tap where you shut off the headlights to add that hp to the wheels when you see a hill coming... As they say "weren't those gears ground at the factory?" 🤣 Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 We had 4 IH tandems a few years ago. Well, 21 years ago. One 1976, 446 gas, RT6513 and air brakes, 2-1979 S1900, 446 w/ 5/4. and a 1980 the same as the '79s, including hydraulic brakes. The '76 was rough riding, but a pleasure to drive. Then in 2000, against the advice of all those who know everything, I bought a 1984 White/GMC/Volvo, Big Cam 350 and Eaton 8 spd, pulling a 41' Wilson hopper. "It'll be stuck all the time, you can't get into that field or out of this field, blah, blah, blah......" I sold my Mack last fall, and the nay sayers have Macks with Wilsons. Progess. And I've done enough shifting. I don't feel the need to prove anything. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted September 10, 2021 Report Share Posted September 10, 2021 My wife had her Class B license to drive school buses with little kids. Got all the training, driving, pre trip, on and on. No limitations. She was legal to drive anything, big buses, short buses, manuals, autos, short of air brakes. She has not EVER offered to drive our RVs, Class As, MDT, 1 tons, now 730. She is content to sit in the seat and sorta navigate. Wish I could get her to change that, but after 43+ years, I know better than to rock the boat. Although I do nudge it a bit at times. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclebuck Posted September 11, 2021 Report Share Posted September 11, 2021 just bought a 2013 with 10 speed and i love it will not go back to auto.I like being in control of my truck in the hills. took a while to get use to it, but once you master it ,its fun. did not like 2001 volvo auto, had a mind of its own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike5511 Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 My 98 is a 10 speed and I wish it was a 13 speed. We're the same age, and I agree 100%! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted September 19, 2021 Report Share Posted September 19, 2021 7 hours ago, mike5511 said: My 98 is a 10 speed and I wish it was a 13 speed. We're the same age, and I agree 100%! I hate that 10 speed but it was cheap. I had to replace it earlier this spring. I wanted a 13 also but I found a low mile used reman 10 to go back in. The company I pull for had one sitting on the shelf in the shop. I couldn't argue the price. $2000 installed. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike5511 Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 17 hours ago, jenandjon said: I hate that 10 speed but it was cheap. I had to replace it earlier this spring. I wanted a 13 also but I found a low mile used reman 10 to go back in. The company I pull for had one sitting on the shelf in the shop. I couldn't argue the price. $2000 installed. I'm hoping mine holds together. As much as I'd like a 13 speed, I don't want to spend the money. Edited September 20, 2021 by mike5511 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamianF Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 I like shifting just fine. The only auto I drive is my girlfriends Toyota. Kenworth has a 15 speed in it and it's perfect as far as I'm concerned. A really liked the 5&4 I ran for a while when I drove commercially. Quote Damian'83 W900B, 3406B, RTO14615, 355 tandems, '95 Carriage Carriage triple axle reluyog@gmail.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imurphy907 Posted September 20, 2021 Report Share Posted September 20, 2021 being manual was one of my requirements when we were truck shopping. Quote 2016 Road Warrior 420 2001 Volvo VNL 660 Alaska Based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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