Marianne45 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 Rotorhead…wish we did have a friend who could help us with that, but I think we are out of all options except the illegal one. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne45 Posted September 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 The only thing I can’t get my husband past is the what ifs…what if we got into an accident on the say over to the test. So, I am at a standstill right now. Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond. I know you are all right, but my engineer husband can be a piece of work at times. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Marianne45 said: Rotorhead…wish we did have a friend who could help us with that, but I think we are out of all options except the illegal one. 😀 Get better friends. I've escorted motorcycle riders to testing centres multiple times, that I just met. All they had to do ? Ask. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 We just came from Georgetown back to Houston. Since you are worried about getting the RV to the test site. I am sure that there are a number of Escapees in the Round Rock area (assuming that is where you are) that would be willing to help you our. But most of use just drove ourselves over and did the test. The test person in Livingston, never asked how we got the truck and trailer there. Ken Quote Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Marianne45 said: I know you are all right, but my engineer husband can be a piece of work at times. I think that is pretty common to people who choose engineering as a career. I would tell him to call the insurance agent and ask if there would be a coverage problem if you were to have an accident in rout to get your driving test with the motorhome. I am sure that they would be happy to address the issue. I did ask my insurance agent that question since this discussion came up and he assured me that there was no problem at all. As he pointed out to me, your insurance will pay for an accident even if you are violating the law when it takes place. The companies regularly pay for damages when people have been speeding, improper lane usage, ran a stop sign, and a host of others. They may well refuse to renew your policy if it happens more than once, but even then they do pay. Searching online I found the following quote, along with several others. Quote Insurance typically follows the vehicle, not the driver. This fact means that if the unlicensed and/or uninsured driver who caused the accident was driving someone else's insured vehicle with permission, then that policy should cover the injured party's damages—regardless of the licensure status of the at-fault driver. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianne45 Posted September 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2021 Kirk…thanks for the research…I will pass this on to my POW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shawnloring Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 I am an attorney, in partnership with Susie Adams. I am not going to comment on the Montana LLC issue. However, regarding the legality of driving an RV to the CDL appointment, I found the following resource on the Texas Department of Public Safety website: https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/driver-license/how-do-i-apply-commercial-driver-license Apparently there is an intermediary step whereby one applies for a Commercial Driver License Permit before obtaining or upgrading to a Commercial Driver License. From the text of this site, "[t]he purpose of this is to allow you an opportunity to obtain behind-the-wheel experience before taking your driving test." It seems reasonable that this also enables one to legally drive to their CDL appointment. I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, shawnloring said: I am an attorney, in partnership with Susie Adams. I am not going to comment on the Montana LLC issue. However, regarding the legality of driving an RV to the CDL appointment, I found the following resource on the Texas Department of Public Safety website: https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/driver-license/how-do-i-apply-commercial-driver-license Apparently there is an intermediary step whereby one applies for a Commercial Driver License Permit before obtaining or upgrading to a Commercial Driver License. From the text of this site, "[t]he purpose of this is to allow you an opportunity to obtain behind-the-wheel experience before taking your driving test." It seems reasonable that this also enables one to legally drive to their CDL appointment. I hope this helps. This thread is NOT about obtaining a CDL.. Reading some of the preceding comments would've illuminated that. Jay Edited September 9, 2021 by Jaydrvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jaydrvr said: This thread is NOT about obtaining a CDL.. Reading some of the preceding comments would've illuminated that. Jay Quote At this point our big frustration is the drivers license that makes it next to impossible to accomplish legally. Somehow the laws in Texas are screwed up! Edited September 1 by Marianne45 On 9/6/2021 at 2:14 PM, Marianne45 said: The only thing I can’t get my husband past is the what ifs…what if we got into an accident on the say over to the test. So, I am at a standstill right now. Thanks I am sorry Jay but you are mistaken. As you say, read the entire thread. Shawn was responding to my email to Susie Adams. Marianne first brought the question up on September 1 and it has been discussed in various posts since that time. Edited September 9, 2021 by Kirk W Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Kirk W said: I am sorry Jay but you are mistaken. As you say, read the entire thread. Shawn was responding to my email to Susie Adams. Marianne first brought the question up on September 1 and it has been discussed in various posts since that time. If you say so, that's fine by me, but in another viewing of this thread, I don't see anything about obtaining a CDL, only the upgraded class of TX driver's license required to drive a larger RV. As I understand it and has been discussed here multiple times, that's not a commercial license. I do personally hold a CDL, so that does give me some perspective. Of course, I could be wrong and it wouldn't exactly new the first time. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 hours ago, shawnloring said: I am an attorney, in partnership with Susie Adams. I am not going to comment on the Montana LLC issue. However, regarding the legality of driving an RV to the CDL appointment, I found the following resource on the Texas Department of Public Safety website: https://www.dps.texas.gov/section/driver-license/how-do-i-apply-commercial-driver-license Apparently there is an intermediary step whereby one applies for a Commercial Driver License Permit before obtaining or upgrading to a Commercial Driver License. From the text of this site, "[t]he purpose of this is to allow you an opportunity to obtain behind-the-wheel experience before taking your driving test." It seems reasonable that this also enables one to legally drive to their CDL appointment. I hope this helps. Mr. shawnloring refers to "Commercial Driver's License" or "CDL" at least 4 times, by my count. Again, I could be wrong. If so, I apologize. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jaydrvr said: If you say so, that's fine by me, but in another viewing of this thread, I don't see anything about obtaining a CDL, only the upgraded class of TX driver's license required to drive a larger RV. As I understand it and has been discussed here multiple times, that's not a commercial license. I do personally hold a CDL, so that does give me some perspective. Of course, I could be wrong and it wouldn't exactly new the first time. Jay Jay, if you read through the entire link, you will see that there is NO REQUIREMENT during the time you have your CLIP for you to practice driving with someone who has an Enhanced license. It just says that between the written test and the driving test there will be at least 14 days during which you should practice. What I did notice is that the Livingston drive testing site is not listed, I wonder if that was a closed because of COVID? Sometimes it is better to ask for forgiveness (sorry, but I looked completely through and couldn't find that requirement) than to ask for permission. I know that when we got ours, the people were so happy that we were doing it they never asked how the rig got to the site. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Barbaraok said: Jay, if you read through the entire link, you will see that there is NO REQUIREMENT during the time you have your CLIP for you to practice driving with someone who has an Enhanced license. It just says that between the written test and the driving test there will be at least 14 days during which you should practice. What I did notice is that the Livingston drive testing site is not listed, I wonder if that was a closed because of COVID? Sometimes it is better to ask for forgiveness (sorry, but I looked completely through and couldn't find that requirement) than to ask for permission. I know that when we got ours, the people were so happy that we were doing it they never asked how the rig got to the site. The link and its contents specifically refer to the Commercial Driver's License. There is a section referring to exemptions for non- commercial use. My point was that this is an RV forum, therefore I can't see how commercial regulations are relevant here. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jaydrvr said: The link and its contents specifically refer to the Commercial Driver's License. There is a section referring to exemptions for non- commercial use. My point was that this is an RV forum, therefore I can't see how commercial regulations are relevant here. Jay Because Jay that is the ONLY PLACE where you find out what is required for the Exemption for RVs. That's why you get an Enhanced Driver's License (Class A or Class B ) NOT a CDL, which is required for rigs (in whatever combination) over 26K lbs. And part of the test is taken from the CDL handbook, so you should read through that in order to pass the test. For instance, one of the questions on my computer generated test (which I skipped as you go bypass a question and come back) asked when electric turn signals were allowed in Texas (IIRC it was 1962). Luckily with computer testing, you just skip what you don't want to answer and get 14 questions (70%) and the test stops (at least when we took it, which was in 2006). Again, the ONLY place where the exemption is listed, and how to get it, etc., is in the CDL regulations! Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted September 9, 2021 Report Share Posted September 9, 2021 35 minutes ago, Barbaraok said: Because Jay that is the ONLY PLACE where you find out what is required for the Exemption for RVs. That's why you get an Enhanced Driver's License (Class A or Class B ) NOT a CDL, which is required for rigs (in whatever combination) over 26K lbs. And part of the test is taken from the CDL handbook, so you should read through that in order to pass the test. For instance, one of the questions on my computer generated test (which I skipped as you go bypass a question and come back) asked when electric turn signals were allowed in Texas (IIRC it was 1962). Luckily with computer testing, you just skip what you don't want to answer and get 14 questions (70%) and the test stops (at least when we took it, which was in 2006). Again, the ONLY place where the exemption is listed, and how to get it, etc., is in the CDL regulations! Okay, got it. At least that makes some sense. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven@146 Posted October 28, 2021 Report Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) Man these discussions get out of hand fast, When I got my Texas Class A Non-CDL 2 years ago there was a learners permit that you could get to legally drive a rig over 26001# before you get the Class A or B Non CDL license, or between the time you pass the written test and take the driving skills test. When i passed my written test in Bastrop, they offered me the learners permit for a fee, IIRC was good for 30 days, but I declined. I had my written test passed receipt, then scheduled my driving test online in Pflugerville (Austin) a couple weeks later. The Pflugerville driving skills testing station never asked if I had a learners permit and didn't care how I got our rig to the testing station. One caveat on the learners permit, just like any learners permit, you are supposed to have a correctly licensed (Class A , B or a licensed CDL holder would work) holder with you while driving. Edited October 28, 2021 by Steven@146 Quote Steve & Tami Cass, Fulltime Somewhere 2018 Ram 3500 DRW / 2019 Grand Design Solitude 3350RL S-Class. Texas Class A Drivers License Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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