President Biden requests production increases from OPEC

[noteven]

After cancelling the Keystone XL pipeline from Canada, President Biden asks OPEC to increase production... 

BNN Bloomberg article

[pjstough]

It is my understanding that NONE of the oil from the Keystone XL pipeline would be available for use in the USA. The oil was to be transported by pipeline to Houston where it would be refined and sent to China. Also, I have seen others post that even thought the pipeline wont be built, oil that would have flowed through the pipeline is being transported to Houston by truck and train, so cancellation of the pipeline has virtually NO effect on oil supplies in the USA.

[Ray,IN]

15 hours ago, pjstough said:

It is my understanding that NONE of the oil from the Keystone XL pipeline would be available for use in the USA. The oil was to be transported by pipeline to Houston where it would be refined and sent to China. Also, I have seen others post that even thought the pipeline wont be built, oil that would have flowed through the pipeline is being transported to Houston by truck and train, so cancellation of the pipeline has virtually NO effect on oil supplies in the USA.

That is my understanding too.

[noteven]

Read about Keystone XL

It was not limited to export from USA gulf ports only nor was it limited to oil sands oil only either. It runs from pipeline terminal to terminal so could have transported various types of products as needed. 

[Dutch_12078]

If TC had worked out a much less environmentally sensitive routing, KXL would likely still be under construction, if not already completed. The extensive leakage history of the existing Keystone pipeline totaling nearly a million gallons, much of it in sensitive areas, doesn't exactly inspire faith in their ability to construct a safer larger pipeline that would have passed through in more sensitive areas.

[bigjim]

I must b missing something. I never want fuel prices to ever go up in my dreams but in reality that is not practical or pragmatic. Also I not seeing fuel at outrageous prices.  I believe I have read and heard on the news that distribution after refining has been a problem due to  a shortage of drivers. Also in other shipping.  I do know that in the time of a previous administration I paid over $5.00 a gal. at one point and that was not in Cali or other places where it tends to be highest. My basic understanding and thoughts fall in line with pjstough, ray, and dutch.

[2gypsies]

Good site to look at fuel price history.   Gas is $2.99 today here in AZ.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_gnd_dcus_nus_w.htm

[RV_]

Best fuel price here today 12August 2024 is $3.34 at COSTCO https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/colorado/colorado-springs

 

 

Edited August 13, 2021 by RV_

[bigjim]

I do Sam's Club  and lately has been in upper $2.80's.  Nearby Costco is likely competitive I am sure. A good number in the area are $2.99 with others just over $3.01 to $3.09.  Even had 3 nearby had a mini gas war that had them about equal to Sam's and Costco. On that corner was a new Murphy Express that I think was the driver of that pricing.  There has been several in this are that had diesel lower than unleaded which is unusual. This is the Albq. market.  Out of town it tends to be higher.

[Kirk W]

Lowest Gas Prices in Dallas

 

Price	Station	Address	City	Time
2.57	Sam's Club	2900 W Wheatland Rd	Dallas	Aug 13, 1:22 AM
2.58	Costco	250 W US-67	Duncanville	Aug 12, 7:27 PM
2.61	Sam's Club	751 W Main St	Lewisville	Aug 12, 1:49 PM
2.63	Costco	851 SH-121	Lewisville	Aug 13, 5:40 AM
2.63	Sam's Club	1200 E Spring Creek Pkwy	Plano	Aug 12, 9:22 PM
2.63	Costco	3800 N Central Expy	Plano	Aug 12, 8:46 PM
2.63	Sam's Club	301 Coit Rd	Plano	Aug 12, 6:48 PM
2.63	Sam's Club	1213 Market Place Blvd	Irving	Aug 12, 5:00 PM
2.63	Costco	1701 Dallas Pkwy	Plano	Aug 12, 2:14 PM
2.64	Costco	3650 W University Dr	McKinney	Aug 12, 8:05 PM

Provided by GasBuddy.com

Edited August 13, 2021 by Kirk W

[Dutch_12078]

Local gas prices near our Adirondack cottage site range from a low of $3.09 to a high of $3.33. Oddly, the highest priced station is one that has nearly always been among the lowest in the area. They're an independent regional chain that buys spot market gas, so I'd guess that pricing is running high right now.

[RV_]

My car's electric energy bill has not gone up a penny, in fact I think it just went down. It's Lynn's 2019 Forester that uses gasoline and is parked mostly until fuel comes down. We will replace that soon with a new Tesla, and sell my last 5 gallon gas can as we have no gas lawn mowers or other gas tools, even my two chain saws are battery. The Forester is our last fossil fueled possession!

It will have a trailer hitch like the Forester has to pull a small RV teardrop/travel trailer.

[Kirk W]

From AAA, 

NATIONAL AVERAGE STABILIZES AS GAS DEMAND DIPS AND CRUDE PRICES REMAIN HIGH

August 12,2021

Quote

Largest Weekly Changes

• Since last Thursday, these 10 states have seen the largest changes in their averages: Michigan (−4 cents), Delaware (−4 cents), Maryland (−4 cents), Alaska (+3 cents), Kentucky (−3 cents), Wyoming (+2 cents), Colorado (+2 cents), Illinois (−2 cents), Ohio (−2 cents) and Indiana (−2 cents).

 

[Dutch_12078]

2 hours ago, Kirk W said:

From AAA, 

NATIONAL AVERAGE STABILIZES AS GAS DEMAND DIPS AND CRUDE PRICES REMAIN HIGH

August 12,2021

 

That's a good sign, I hope it continues. I was out and about earlier today, and noticed a couple of the high volume stations in the area have dropped a few cents. It would be good to see the others come down a bit as well when they refill their tanks.

[RV_]

Colorado up 2 cents on that chart.

[Kirk W]

57 minutes ago, RV_ said:

Colorado up 2 cents on that chart.

What is it costing where you are now? Just across the street here in Mesquite, TX is a Circle K-Valero station that is currently at $2.699 for unleaded and $2.789 for diesel. The AAA report says that TX average is $2.845 but the highest price we say yesterday when driving about 15 miles to our son's house was $2.799. I wonder how they get their price information.

[noteven]

Alberta is around $US 3.90 / US gallon for 87 gasohol at the retail pump.

 

[noteven]

22 hours ago, RV_ said:

My car's electric energy bill has not gone up a penny, in fact I think it just went down. It's Lynn's 2019 Forester that uses gasoline and is parked mostly until fuel comes down. We will replace that soon with a new Tesla, and sell my last 5 gallon gas can as we have no gas lawn mowers or other gas tools, even my two chain saws are battery. The Forester is our last fossil fueled possession!

It will have a trailer hitch like the Forester has to pull a small RV teardrop/travel trailer.

Derek - what’s the word on the street for how EV’s will eventually be charged road tax as their numbers take over the world? 
In Canada right now a transport truck covering 120,000 miles annually is paying at least $30,000.00 annually in fuel tax and another  approx $7000.00 in federal goods and services tax on that amount of fuel.

Tracking of commercial trucks by government exists to apply a distance tax - perhaps citizens will accept that on private EV’s? 

Otherwise how do you separate “off highway” electricity at home vs what is being used to power road vehicles? 

 

[RV_]

Not my job. Mine is a passenger car not an OTR Truck. How do you handle it in Canada?

Edited August 16, 2021 by RV_

[GlennWest]

I am curious how those battery powered chainsaws are working. I have been considering one.

[noteven]

On 8/16/2021 at 12:54 PM, RV_ said:

Not my job. Mine is a passenger car not an OTR Truck. How do you handle it in Canada?

I’m not entirely sure I think it is a free ride for EV’s.

[noteven]

11 hours ago, GlennWest said:

I am curious how those battery powered chainsaws are working. I have been considering one.

My son has a 18v Milwaukee that works great. 

[whj469]

Please keep in mind we, US Oil Companies, are currently selling petroleum and fuels to other countries as we ask OPEC to increase production? Just a few years back we were told that the US produced enough petroleum for all of our needs?

[RV_]

Glenn,

My old 18 Volt Ryobi chain saws were Good for the time but today's Ryobi and other top brand chainsaws really are better than gas IMO. Power is great and with spare batteries can run as long as I need. Of course assuming you read the reviews. All brands are not alike. We have One 9Ah,two 6Ah, four 4Ah, two 3 Ah and four or five 2 Ah batteries, with the wall charging rack for six batteries at a time. So when I am using a chainsaw, the big angle grinder, the 18 volt shop vac, or the fan I always bring two batteries. 

Edited September 7, 2021 by RV_

[Dutch_12078]

On 9/5/2021 at 9:41 AM, GlennWest said:

I am curious how those battery powered chainsaws are working. I have been considering one.

One of our neighbors at our NY cottage site had a large tree taken down a few weeks ago. The job was going so quietly that I wondered over to see what was going on. Turns out they were using a hydraulic fluid driven saw on the 50' man-lift, and 18 volt Milwaukee's on the ground for limbing and trimming. The only load noise didn't occur until later when they fired up the chipper. I was impressed by how well the Milwaukee's were cutting and how long the batteries lasted.