Jackalopee Plug

[Darryl&Rita]

26 minutes ago, phoenix2013 said:

why five and how would you wire these?

Ooo, ooo, ooo! Red, black, and white seem self-explanatory. I'd use the orange to bring +12v to the Jackalopee, from the fuse panel, and the green to replace the blue.

[phoenix2013]

57 minutes ago, Darryl&Rita said:

Ooo, ooo, ooo! Red, black, and white seem self-explanatory. I'd use the orange to bring +12v to the Jackalopee, from the fuse panel, and the green to replace the blue.

Yes, so orange and black combined on the SWITCHED terminal, orange all the way to the truck battery across a 40A fuse. Black to controller black.

Red from controller combined on the BRAKE LIGHTS terminal with red from truck plug.

Green spliced to blue from the brake controller

Another color option, don't know what standard they are using

[MoneyMakeranch]

Looking at what all has been talked about so far, I’m looking at mounting the Jackalopee in the side compartment on my 780.  I have the wiring from the truck to the Jackalopee done and starting on the wiring from the direct link controller to the Jackalopee. Sitting and thinking on the connections shown from phoenix2013 showing the split connector on the inputs to the Jackalopee made some wheels start turning in places they hadn’t turned in a while.  Why couldn’t I take the direct link controller and mount it in the same place as the Jackalopee then I could just tap into the signals needed for it on the 4 wire Dephi connector.  I tested the serial cable from the controller to the adapter box and it’s just a straight thru cable, so I went back to my pile of computer cables and got a rs232 extension cable and tested all the wires were the same places, then I needed an RJ11 telephone extension cable to run from the controller to the small brake controller mounted on the dash. This should get all the controller wiring in as short as possible configuration and tucked out of the way and easy to work on in the future if needed.  I will try to get some pics this week.     

[rickeieio]

Or, just run the blue hose to the blue gladhand, and the red hose to the red gladhand..   ROFL

Seriously, since I have a BluDot system, I'm considering mounting the Jackalopee behind my trailer pinbox, with a short pigtail to plug into the original truck outlet, and then plug the trailer into the other side.  That way, ANY commercial road tractor could safely move our trailer.  Added benefit is that I'm only fiddling with the more robust commercial style plug.

[phoenix2013]

1 hour ago, MoneyMakeranch said:

Looking at what all has been talked about so far, I’m looking at mounting the Jackalopee in the side compartment on my 780.  I have the wiring from the truck to the Jackalopee done and starting on the wiring from the direct link controller to the Jackalopee. Sitting and thinking on the connections shown from phoenix2013 showing the split connector on the inputs to the Jackalopee made some wheels start turning in places they hadn’t turned in a while.  Why couldn’t I take the direct link controller and mount it in the same place as the Jackalopee then I could just tap into the signals needed for it on the 4 wire Dephi connector.  I tested the serial cable from the controller to the adapter box and it’s just a straight thru cable, so I went back to my pile of computer cables and got a rs232 extension cable and tested all the wires were the same places, then I needed an RJ11 telephone extension cable to run from the controller to the small brake controller mounted on the dash. This should get all the controller wiring in as short as possible configuration and tucked out of the way and easy to work on in the future if needed.  I will try to get some pics this week.     

MoneyMakeranch, one fly in the ointment. The key to the to DirecLink operation is the OBD harness.

It connects from the diagnostic port socket (and the truck computer) to the DirecLink power module. In the sample unit I got it was around 7 feet, it might be close trying to reach the side compartment in a 780, depending how you run it.. But most of that 7 foot length was in the coiled section, which is cable with two DB9 connectors at either end, I would think it could be made longer.

A compartment install

although initially a little bit more work saves work in other areas and opens "other opportunities" like the one you are thinking about.

[phoenix2013]

2 hours ago, rickeieio said:

Or, just run the blue hose to the blue gladhand, and the red hose to the red gladhand..   ROFL

Seriously, since I have a BluDot system, I'm considering mounting the Jackalopee behind my trailer pinbox, with a short pigtail to plug into the original truck outlet, and then plug the trailer into the other side.  That way, ANY commercial road tractor could safely move our trailer.  Added benefit is that I'm only fiddling with the more robust commercial style plug.

That would work for lights. You don't care about blue wire (who needs a stinkn' blue wire when you have BluDot), but batter charging would go away.

[MoneyMakeranch]

Yes, the key to the to Direct Link operation is the OBD harness.  The RS232 serial cable I talked about is the cable with the DB9 connectors on the ends. I just added an extension cable to it to reach from the ODB port conversion box to the side compartment of the 780.

[Darryl&Rita]

6 hours ago, phoenix2013 said:

Another color option, don't know what standard they are using

Be careful with Tray cable, not enough strands for automotive use. (IMHO).

[rickeieio]

1 hour ago, phoenix2013 said:

That would work for lights. You don't care about blue wire (who needs a stinkn' blue wire when you have BluDot), but batter charging would go away.

Oops.  Forgot about that aspect.  Dang, I thought I had a brilliant idea, and it was just a gas pain.

[noteven]

I just posted a RV 7 way plug mystery issue I'm fixing...

Anyways... when you are cleaning connections ever wonder why did the RV world engineered it's industry plug with flat blades? Booooo!!

On a Big Truck with  "commercial" round pins you pick up that nifty tool with the rotating wire brushes and clean the pins...

[noteven]

On 8/7/2021 at 9:22 PM, rickeieio said:

Oops.  Forgot about that aspect.  Dang, I thought I had a brilliant idea, and it was just a gas pain.

rick it is said the electrons scurry down the surface of wires, so many strands are beneficial to prevent voltage loss on low pressure systems... 

Here ends the extent of my knowledge...

[Steve from SoCal]

4 hours ago, noteven said:

rick it is said the electrons scurry down the surface of wires, so many strands are beneficial to prevent voltage loss on low pressure systems... 

Here ends the extent of my knowledge...

Skin effect is a factor in AC current, DC no.    That said, supper fine stranded wire is much better for any high vibration environment like a vehicle.

 

 

[noteven]

10 minutes ago, Steve from SoCal said:

Skin effect is a factor in AC current, DC no.    That said, supper fine stranded wire is much better for any high vibration environment like a vehicle.

 

 

Thanks for learnin' me somethin' today Steve.