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 I copied it from RV Lifestyles by Mike Wendland.
 

Why are authorities shutting down boondocking?

This is a reason why authorities are shutting down boondocking

For starters, consider these recent stories about the shutting down of boondocking areas:

·       In Oregon, Trash, Human Waste, Forces Authorities on Oregon to Shut Down Dispersed Camping

·       In Utah overnight camping has been banned in Middle Fork because of trash, vandalism and rowdyism

·       Popular Colorado area closed to dispersed camping

Those are just three examples. There are many more, from all over the US.

There is a detailed interview with Drivin and Vibin

More boondocking sites are shut down indefinitely. 
Here's the info: https://drivinvibin.com/.../wma-imposes-boondocking-ban.../

More boondocking sites are shut down indefinitely.
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Reno Nevada BLM is shutting down overnight camping and restricting activities on BLM areas close to and just north of Reno/Sparks because of severe abuse of the public lands here due to horrible trashing of the sites and abandoned junky vehicles and RVs.  No more 14 day stays or even one night of camping.  This just announced in last two weeks in local news.  No I do not have a link but one can easily find it with a simple first grade 101 Google search.   P.S. links are not mandatory.  Cheers to some.

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  • 2 months later...

Greetings,

Of course people who aren't regular campers can cause problems without regards to others who care and pick up after themselves and often others.

My opinion is that a lot of these places are trashed by the homelessness in these areas. Ironically they are also hurting themselves if they want a free place to stay. When services were suspended about a year and a half ago, trash dumpsters were over flowing with trash and even piled around the containers which probably didn't help the situation.

Guess what I am saying, pack it in and then pack it out if there is no place to put your trash. A stop over to a camp ground will solve your trash problem. Realize the season RV'ers are usually the most responsible campers out there with the exception of just a few.

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BLM areas in the Rush Valley, Utah have been closed to all use. One so bad with black tank dumps it's considered a haz-mat site now. These offenders are not homeless. It's way to far off the beaten track. They are idiot campers who just don't care.

A wonderful place to be with groups, family, shooting, 4 wheeling, hiking and camping in a place where you can see the wonders of the night sky.

Truly sad.

 

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Not on the level of previous examples, but I picked up and disposed of two small grocery bags of trash in a fire pit at the spot I'm currently at in Idaho.  Amazing how much it pissed me off to see someone leave behind even a little bit of trash.  Easily disposed of at the gas station down the road.

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It is saddening at how little so many campers think of the environment and other campers now.  To day while walking my dog, I found one huge pile of dog poop and orange peels scattered about.  It is not hard to pick up the poop and the orange peel is not eaten by the critters. 

We campground hosted for many years and finally reached the point of I am not pick up others trash.  They use the fire ring as a garbage pit for unused food, cigarette butts and dirty diapers.  They do not supervise the kids and do not teach them how to put trash in a trash can.

At one park that had the day use area totally trashed on Saturday and Sunday, I suggest to the parm manager that we not pick up the trash in this area for a month and see if ay of the people would get disgusted and  complain or stop coming to the park. An alternate solution might be to collect all of the trash left on the ground and in fire rings for a month and put it on display at the entrance with a sign telling the story of the trash.

Ken

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When we hosted parks , we always carried extra trash bags in our park tours . 

When we saw that there was no trash bag being used , we'd always offer a bag or two free to the site occupants . 

And , we'd make sure everyone knew where the dumpster(s) were located .

Almost everyone got the message . 

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4 hours ago, Pat & Pete said:

When we hosted parks , we always carried extra trash bags in our park tours . 

When we saw that there was no trash bag being used , we'd always offer a bag or two free to the site occupants . 

And , we'd make sure everyone knew where the dumpster(s) were located .

Almost everyone got the message . 

We used that tactic as well.  Some would pick up the trash, others simply took the bag and left the trash.  In one state park, I asked the people to please pick up the kids candy and potato chip wrappers before they blew over to the neighbors.  She informed me that picking up the trash was the rangers job.  I let the office know and the park policeman visited them to inform them of the policy.  They left the site dirty anyway...I guess, just to show him.

There is no limit to some peoples stupidity and ignorance.

Ken

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31 minutes ago, TXiceman said:

We used that tactic as well.  Some would pick up the trash, others simply took the bag and left the trash.  In one state park, I asked the people to please pick up the kids candy and potato chip wrappers before they blew over to the neighbors.  She informed me that picking up the trash was the rangers job.  I let the office know and the park policeman visited them to inform them of the policy.  They left the site dirty anyway...I guess, just to show him.

There is no limit to some peoples stupidity and ignorance.

Ken

I've heard that it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. 

I feel sorry for the miscreants . If they would only realize that good begets good and bad simply brings bad . 

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There has always been that crowd of people that take advantage of others. I personally know some. Getting to be a lot of people in the world and a lot of campers are out there now. there is enough of them now that it causes problems. I don't see it improving either. 

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We're not full time campers at all, but when we do want to get away with our RV, we want to do it boondocking in somewhat remote, beautiful areas that of course have not been ruined by others and is not "crowded".

What I'd like to see is boondocking areas that you pay so much per day to camp in.  i.e. How about camping without hookups by a beautiful remote lake or in a beautiful desert setting that cost $20 per day and with only so many RV's allowed into the area at any one time?

I could easily go for that ... but of course full-timers in that area would have to be paying around $600 ($20 X 30 days) per month in order to boondock camp there.

$20 per day (adjusted upwards each year per inflation) might help keep the trashy camper types away ... I'm not sure, though.

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2 hours ago, pnichols said:

What I'd like to see is boondocking areas that you pay so much per day to camp in.  i.e. How about camping without hookups by a beautiful remote lake or in a beautiful desert setting that cost $20 per day and with only so many RV's allowed into the area at any one time?

We camped in lots of Corp of Engineer campgrounds and some state forests, state parks, wildlife areas, and BLM campgrounds that meet that criteria. Some didn't even charge as much as $20; some were free.

Linda Sand

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