States that have lifted virus restrictions

[Danandfreda]

38 minutes ago, kurtsara said:

We don't watch the news so we were never brain washed. 

 

I see people alone in a car with a mask on. 

 

I see people riding bike alone with a mask on. 

 

I see husbands and wives together with masks on, nobody else with them. 

 

I see people jogging alone with a mask on. 

 

 

We watched news in the beginning but soon stopped watching everyday. We were told there would be used mask receptacles everywhere and no evictions for anybody. Then the governor shut the state parks on a Sunday afternoon and we were “evicted “ and were paying to stay. But people who were getting everything for free could stay in a government house and then get more unemployment. Doesn’t make sense but better stop before i say to much. 

[TXiceman]

Barbaraok, I agree.  How can people not believe the science and simple act of wearing a mask to help all people.  The moronic governor of Texas is on the very of killing the mask mandate.  It does no good to try and explain any science to the non-maskers and anti vacc folks.

Even now that I have both shots, I will continue to wear a mask as long as it takes to be safe in public,

Ken

[GlennWest]

Mask have problems too. Make my nose itch. Pull down and scratch. Now contaminated. Now need to dispose of mask, wash hands and get new one. Nobody does this. 

[Kirk W]

2 hours ago, agesilaus said:

But Kirk is right, the logical thinkers and the emotional thinkers will never agree.

And we are not likely to agree on which of those categories each of us fall into, either.  🙃

[DanZemke]

I choose not to participate in this debate.  But I do have a specific suggestion that some may find useful.

I purchased a few 3M N95 masks, but other than trying one on, I've never used them. Saving them for any bad situations I need to endure like a round-trip flight from Connecticut to California.

I've tried 6 mask types: N95, cloth, surgeon and 3 brands of KN95 masks.  I chose the one I felt was the best for me and my relatives and purchased several packages of 10.  I chose them because they have an interior Meltblown polypropylene layer (like 3M N95's) sandwiched between two outer layers.  I chose the ear loop style rather than the elastic bands style.  They are priced at about $1 a piece for a pack of 10.

The masks fit my face very well.  But if you have a small head, they may be too large (that was true for one friend of mine).  The only relationship I have with the company is that I've purchased 60 of their masks.  

https://bonafidemasks.com/face-masks/kn95-respirator-face-masks/

[2gypsies]

16 hours ago, jcussen said:

Just to muddy the waters. 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/nyt-study-finds-that-masks-do-not-protect-wearers

We both worked at a pharmaceutical company (which folks are now getting vaccines from).  We worked with studies.  This Danish study would never fly.  It was poorly done and doesn't prove a thing.

DENMARK:  211,000 cases vs. U.S. 29,300,000 cases

DENMARK:  2300 deaths vs. U.S. 527,000 deaths

DENMARK:  5 million population vs. U.S. 331 million population

From the above link:  

The Times also cited pushback against the study, namely over the low rate of infection in Denmark at the time of the trial and the participants self-reporting, meaning their mask-wearing was not independently verified:

Other experts were unconvinced. The incidence of infections in Denmark was lower than it is today in many places, meaning the effectiveness of masks for wearers may have been harder to detect, they noted.

Participants reported their own test results; mask use was not independently verified, and users may not have worn them correctly.

Edited March 1, 2021 by 2gypsies

[jcussen]

43 minutes ago, 2gypsies said:

We both worked at a pharmaceutical company (which folks are now getting vaccines from).  We worked with studies.  This Danish study would never fly.  It was poorly done and doesn't prove a thing.

DENMARK:  211,000 cases vs. U.S. 29,300,000 cases

DENMARK:  2300 deaths vs. U.S. 527,000 deaths

DENMARK:  5 million population vs. U.S. 331 million population

From the above link:  

The Times also cited pushback against the study, namely over the low rate of infection in Denmark at the time of the trial and the participants self-reporting, meaning their mask-wearing was not independently verified:

Other experts were unconvinced. The incidence of infections in Denmark was lower than it is today in many places, meaning the effectiveness of masks for wearers may have been harder to detect, they noted.

Participants reported their own test results; mask use was not independently verified, and users may not have worn them correctly.

Just posted the link, have no idea if it is true or not,  just like many things you find on the internet or read in the paper, but people believe them anyway.

[bigjim]

Lots of problems using masks properly and getting people to do so but I have to say to ME it seems to be logical and/or common sense that while not perfect spreading of germs/viruses or whatever are bound to be reduced if masks are worn by people. You may not be able to prove it but as Mr Spock said it is logical.  It may not be perfect but it is surely better than nothing.  If that were not the case I ask why they wear them in the operating room or on the wards in hospital/clinics or what ever where the possibility of infection is high.

You ever see someone around something really stinky how fast they will cover up their mouth and nose.  Too bad coronvirus doesn't smell really bad.

[hemsteadc]

5 minutes ago, bigjim said:

  If that were not the case I ask why they wear them in the operating room or on the wards in hospital/clinics or what ever where the possibility of infection is high.

Exactly.  When surgeons and nurses stop wearing masks then perhaps I'll rethink my position.

[kurtsara]

42 minutes ago, hemsteadc said:

Exactly.  When surgeons and nurses stop wearing masks then perhaps I'll rethink my position.

How many bodies do you cut into that you could infect?

[Zulu]

20 hours ago, Zulu said:

Gotta ask. If absolutely no one had worn masks, do you think there would have been any difference?

Agesilaus?

[bigjim]

Well I would guess  that the live ones could be infected by you if you have something infectious but don't know of it. Or if they have something infectious and you need to care for them you could be infected. Essentially if it is a dead body I guess the medical personnel are the only one at risk.

D

Edited March 2, 2021 by bigjim
Posted some info I got at least partially wrong

[Barbaraok]

2 hours ago, kurtsara said:

How many bodies do you cut into that you could infect?

How many particles does someone who is asymptomatic  release when they are talking?  How many will it take to infect you if neither of you are wearing a mask? 

[kurtsara]

10 hours ago, Barbaraok said:

How many particles does someone who is asymptomatic  release when they are talking?  How many will it take to infect you if neither of you are wearing a mask? 

Not living my life like a paranoid person, life is to short anyway, I'm going to have fun. 

 

This forum has to be one of the most depressing forums to read, everything is about covid or when someone gets there shots, I must be the young one here at 60 years old. 

It is no wonder not many new members stay here after they post a few times. 

Edited March 2, 2021 by kurtsara

[noteven]

It is estimated that the total volume of C-19 virus in the world would fit in a Solo cup. 

[bigjim]

I have to admit I am confused. You asked a question and made a statement and you seem upset that there is a reply. I hope I am truly just confused.  It is not a personal attack and you are very welcome here. Some of us maybe taking this more serious based on our own experiences. For instance on about Jan 24, we lost an escapees member named Jim Spence (Devilishjim on the forum).  I have had close friends die of Covid and as I was typing this on ABC they reported on a couple that had been married for 60 yrs, that got it and died not long before they were scheduled to get the shot.  So I guess we are taking it deadly serious.  I can't really find a way to make that cheerful.

My suggestion is just ignore those topics and use the ones you like. I hope you do not take this as a personal attack as it is just and answer to a statement you made that I don't understand.

[D&J]

1 hour ago, kurtsara said:

Not living my life like a paranoid person, life is to short anyway, I'm going to have fun. 

 

This forum has to be one of the most depressing forums to read, everything is about covid or when someone gets there shots, I must be the young one here at 60 years old. 

It is no wonder not many new members stay here after they post a few times. 

👍

Denny

[hemsteadc]

2 hours ago, kurtsara said:

This forum has to be one of the most depressing forums to read, everything is about covid or when someone gets there shots, I must be the young one here at 60 years old. It is no wonder not many new members stay here after they post a few times. 

We're all impressed with your astute observations.

Edited March 2, 2021 by hemsteadc

[noteven]

One must mind what one says here in Covid-1984, except when making remarks about “old” people. 
 

 

[sandsys]

5 hours ago, kurtsara said:

This forum has to be one of the most depressing forums to read, everything is about covid or when someone gets there shots, I must be the young one here at 60 years old. 

We're not usually like that but nothing is like usual during this pandemic. With travel severely limited for so many what are we supposed to talk about except how to get back out there again safely?

Linda

[agesilaus]

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GOV. ABBOTT: "Effective next Wednesday, all businesses of any type are allowed to open 100%.... Also, I am ending the statewide mask mandate."

Add Texas to the no restriction list. Just FYI and no replies wanted

[Zulu]

1 hour ago, agesilaus said:

Add Texas to the no restriction list. Just FYI and no replies wanted

I think I'll reply anyway.

In the face of health official warnings, the TX governor lifts mask mandate, and another state gets added to your atta boy list.

I find it more telling what you don't say.

[Big Rick]

I may be in the minority but am glad Gov. Abbott came to his senses and killed the State wide mandate. Businesses can do as they please but having a mask mandate statewide when some counties have less than 1,000 population was ludicrous 

Edited March 2, 2021 by Big Rick

[agesilaus]

Mississippi:

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JUST IN - Gov. Reeves lifts all mask mandates in #Mississippi and businesses can begin to operate at full capacity without any state-imposed restrictions.

 

expanded comment:

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Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves made a similar announcement shortly thereafter — on a shorter timeline.

“Starting tomorrow, we are lifting all of our county mask mandates and businesses will be able to operate at full capacity without any state-imposed rules. Our hospitalizations and case numbers have plummeted, and the vaccine is being rapidly distributed. It is time!” he tweeted.

 

Edited March 2, 2021 by agesilaus

[Kirk W]

2 hours ago, agesilaus said:

Add Texas to the no restriction list. Just FYI and no replies wanted

State wide that is true. But there may still be some local restrictions, it is too early to tell.