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Does anyone have experience welding on Volvo trucks?  

My concern is if any current does not playing nice with the truck’s electronics.  I will certainly disconnect the truck’s batteries.  But does anyone go to the added protection of disconnecting the engine ECU, or even the instrument cluster?  I’m all about being careful, but don’t know what other ramifications or resetting is required if I start disconnecting things.  

Thoughts?  

 

Thank you in advance.  

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Welcome to the forum.  This topic has been discussed multiple times and there still is no consensus.  Some folks say all wires should be disconnected from battery to protect electronics and welder ground placed as close to weld as possible.  The welder who built my bed didn’t disconnect anything, just put the ground close and I’ve not had a problem in the 10 years since.

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A good clean welding ground near the weld Is best practice.  What you want to avoid is an alternate ground path through a sensitive piece of equipment. 
 

There are several ground connections on our trucks but the battery itself isn’t a ground so I don’t understand the value of disconnecting from the batteries. Maybe somebody can provide a technical explanation. Having said this, I also don’t see any harm in disconnecting the battery either. 

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My understanding on disconnecting the batteries is that all the electrical equipment, while grounded to the frame, has the power through circuitry and fuses, but ends up at the power side of the battery.  If you disconnect the battery, essentially, you’re breaking the circuit to the electronic equipment and thus, no harm should come to them from arrant current through the frame... but... that’s just my theory.  

Thank you everyone for your replies.  

I will disconnect the battery and keep my ground close.  

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I extended the frame and built the bed and tool boxes on our Volvo.  I always disconnect the battery, strap the positive and negative leads together and ground as close to the work as possible.  For what it is worth I haven't had a problem with the electronics.  I am making some modifications now and will follow my practice.  I have read the safer way is to also disconnect all of the electronics.  Probably the safest way would be to remove them from the truck but that is time consuming and can cause other problems.  Any time you weld on a truck there is a slight chance of a problem but if the ground is clean and close it is only a very slight chance.  

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We always ground close to weld. Actually a termination if you don't. Current taking easiest shortest route. Good ground. Seen old weak grounds not make contact also. I weld on jobs around hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment, we disconnect nothing. Just good ground close to weld.

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On 12/2/2020 at 9:17 AM, GlennWest said:

We always ground close to weld. Actually a termination if you don't. Current taking easiest shortest route. Good ground. Seen old weak grounds not make contact also. I weld on jobs around hundred thousand dollars worth of equipment, we disconnect nothing. Just good ground close to weld.

In a past life did warranty work on heavy equipment for a large dealer (HDT's was within our scope of work as was ag and construction equipment).  Welding happened daily in the shop on all sorts of equipment (cheap and expensive).

Similar to GlennWest, we didn't disconnect batteries ever.  We did ground well and near the weld.

I personally have never witnessed welding damage; but I'm pretty sure one could sure cause it intentionally.  For example weld on a frame but attach the welding ground to the power side of an ECU.  All the load will be forced through the ECU which isn't going to like it.  But I don't see how the device being powered or not would matter.

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