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1 hour ago, Barbaraok said:

In our county it was all done in schools because so many kids from ‘up river’ never saw a physician unless they were in an accident and taken to the hospital.  Our county public health organized it with volunteer physicians and nurses.  By doing it at school no one was singled out for not having money to go to doctors.

Good logic.

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Anybody else have the smallpox vaccination scar? About dime size. They used a double prong needle and stuck us repeatedly just into the skin until it was all delivered. Now that hurt and I wasn't 

BCG vaccination is done the same way, different disease.

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For some reason I have never scarred from the small pox vacination and the only discomfort I had was some itching for a day or two.  If I recall I had at least one in the military.

At the school I went to in Dallas they gave most of the first polio shots at school. I think that families could even make arrangements for younger kids not in school yet could get theirs  there. I know a lot of people also went to the county health dept. which was not nearly as convenient even though Dallas was much smaller then. Of course a lot of people were lucky to have one car per family then.

I just thought, weren't the first shots a series of 3?

In about 1977 I was carrying mail on another carriers route in Casa Veiw area of Dallas. These houses had drop slots either in the door or nest to it. When I got up on the porch there inside the picture window was a man in an Iron Lung.

The  last time I looked it up he was still alive and still had to use the Iron Lung at least part of the time. When I last looked it up there were 2 people in the US still needing the Iron Lung.  There wasn't much doubt that my kids would get needed vacinations  but after seeing that  it removed all doubt.  BTW he became a lawyer and If remember was able to attend the University of Texas in Austin some way.

I really hated getting shots as a child.  I embarrassed my mom to the extreme when I got my polio shot the first time at the school but she still made sure I got it no matter what.  I'm almost 73 and I still really miss her.

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9 hours ago, Barbaraok said:

In our county it was all done in schools because so many kids from ‘up river’ never saw a physician unless they were in an accident and taken to the hospital.  Our county public health organized it with volunteer physicians and nurses.  By doing it at school no one was singled out for not having money to go to doctors.

I grew up in Kansas farm country where polio vaccinations were also arranged by the health department, by county I suppose. When that all began there were very few people in the area who had anything like to sort of health insurance that is common today, so the cost would not have been paid by insurance. Most farmers had only hospitalization, if any health insurance at all. Our small town had one doctor and there were two nurses. All 12 grades of the local schools had a total of 200 students. There were still a few 1 room elementary schools in the county that probably accounted for another 50 or so children. Like Barb's community, many parents brought younger siblings in for the vaccinations as well but I really do not know how they were paid for. I believe that 1 of the local nurses was there as well as 1 or 2 people from the health department. In those days it was not a problem getting parents to have children vaccinated for polio if they didn't have to pay for it. By this time, most larger employers were providing some sort of health care plan but that area had no large factories and no businesses with more than a dozen employees so many had no health insurance. My dad had hospitalization through the local chapter of the Farm Bureau Association and it required us to go to the hospital that they owned/operated, located in Topeka which was more than 100 miles of mostly unpaved roads away. Even today, health care is a major problem for most farmers. Health insurance has become farmers' new No. 1 worry

7 hours ago, RV_ said:

Anybody else have the smallpox vaccination scar?

I would think that most of us in the 65 and up age group would have. I and all of my siblings do.

6 hours ago, bigjim said:

I just thought, weren't the first shots a series of 3?

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The first polio vaccine, also called the Salk vaccine, was developed in the 1950s. This vaccine consists of an inactivated version of the virus, which is usually given as a series of two to four injections, beginning at 2 months of age.

 

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8 hours ago, RV_ said:

Anybody else have the smallpox vaccination scar? About dime size. They used a double prong needle and stuck us repeatedly just into the skin until it was all delivered. Now that hurt and I wasn't 

BCG vaccination is done the same way, different disease.

YES!  Though my has really faded out over the years.  My daughter, born in '76, never had one of those.  Had all of the rest of the vaccinations EXCEPT chicken pox.   She was in the 7th grade when she caught that disease - - two days before we were set to go to a meeting where I was presenting a paper.  Our friends who were going to take care of her said "no problem, we've all had chicken pox" and she spent the week with them.   Now that's true friendship!

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49 minutes ago, Barbaraok said:

YES!  Though my has really faded out over the years.  My daughter, born in '76, never had one of those.  Had all of the rest of the vaccinations EXCEPT chicken pox.   She was in the 7th grade when she caught that disease - - two days before we were set to go to a meeting where I was presenting a paper.  Our friends who were going to take care of her said "no problem, we've all had chicken pox" and she spent the week with them.   Now that's true friendship!

The chickenpox (varicella) vaccine wasn't licensed in the US until 1995. Our kids just caught the disease from kids at church or playmates and endured a week of itching and confinement to gain immunity. 

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15 hours ago, RV_ said:

Anybody else have the smallpox vaccination scar?

My doctor put my vaccination on my shoulder blade instead of my arm, so it wouldn't be visible.  These days, I can't think of a single place on a person's body that would be considered safe from visibility.

 

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The chickenpox (varicella) vaccine wasn't licensed in the US until 1995. Our kids just caught the disease from kids at church or playmates and endured a week of itching and confinement to gain immunity. 

Or went to chicken pox parties.  Which are the basis for Covid parties.  Neither is an excellent idea.

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30 minutes ago, Blues said:

My doctor put my vaccination on my shoulder blade instead of my arm, so it wouldn't be visible.  These days, I can't think of a single place on a person's body that would be considered safe from visibility.

Oh, I can think of a few... but I certainly wouldn't want a vaccination there!

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I'm with you Jim. :P

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How long will this go on?  My conclusion is quite a while yet, based on the cell-phone tracking of visitors to Las Vegas.

https://www.propublica.org/article/cellphone-data-shows-how-las-vegas-is-gambling-with-lives-across-the-country

Interesting maps showing where the visitors spread out to.  Plus photos inside casinos, where we see one slot-machine woman with her mask below her mouth, and a woman cleaning a plexiglas shield with her mask below her nose.  But she's wearing gloves, so we can all rest easy.

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42 minutes ago, sandsys said:

In some ways, it is going to go on forever in that people and businesses have change enough that "normal" will never be again.

Linda

How true, Linda. Our son-in-law is a pilot for one of the major airlines. His company has said no furloughs through the end of the year... but no-one can predict what the aviation industry is going to look like after that or for the next five years.

On the people side, Laura was just talking about how she may never be comfortable being in crowds again or just walking up and hugging people like we used to. 

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13 minutes ago, sheldons65 said:

Covid-19 will be with us until there is a vaccine. Correct?

Actually longer because we know that we will not get everyone to take the vaccine.  If we have 35% or more than won't, then those people will be passing the disease on to others, including the small number who can not take the vaccine because of medical reasons.  

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30 minutes ago, sheldons65 said:

Covid-19 will be with us until there is a vaccine. Correct?

 

15 minutes ago, Barbaraok said:

Actually longer because we know that we will not get everyone to take the vaccine.  If we have 35% or more than won't, then those people will be passing the disease on to others, including the small number who can not take the vaccine because of medical reasons.  

We don't yet even know the level of efficacy of a new vaccine. We hope it's significantly effective but won't know until we know. We also don't know how stable the genome is. If it's more like the flu, it won't be terribly effective. Jay

 

 
 
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Here's the outcome to the CDC article:  https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/politics/twitter-coronavirus-deaths-false-claim-qanon-trump/index.html

It was posted on Twitter and re-tweeted by Trump and has now been removed from Twitter.  It was a article by a QAnon follower.

One of our members, Agesilaus, had also posted it but has now been removed - either on this site or on iRV2.com

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Sorry answered private message in the wrong place.

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4 hours ago, 2gypsies said:

Here's the outcome to the CDC article:  https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/30/politics/twitter-coronavirus-deaths-false-claim-qanon-trump/index.html

It was posted on Twitter and re-tweeted by Trump and has now been removed from Twitter.  It was a article by a QAnon follower.

One of our members, Agesilaus, had also posted it but has now been removed - either on this site or on iRV2.com

Thanks.  Should have known, especially since the thing was dated nearly 2 weeks ago.

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21 hours ago, remoandiris said:

Thanks.  Should have known, especially since the thing was dated nearly 2 weeks ago.

With all due respect, it sounds like you had doubts whether it was true.  Wouldn't it be better to do research yourself to verify it before posting it?  You could have found out the same thing 2gypsies did, and not participated in fanning the flames.

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