Bill w/bus Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Sealand toilet water seal slowly drops through closed valve. Cause appears to hard water deposits at leading edge of valve at each side. V shaped about 1/2 inch along the edge of the valve. Visible when valve is about half way open.I am hesitant to scrap with metal fearing ball damage and subsequent loss of seal. Thoughts and suggestions welcome. Thanks Bill Quote Bill & Lynn Baxter MCI102A3 Conversion, Detroit Diesel S50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 When mine starts leaking down I spray a bunch of liquid Bar keepers Friend in and let it soak. Then clean with a toilet brush including twisting the brush down the opening. Usually holds for awhile. If the water is really hard may have to repeat more often. Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill w/bus said: I am hesitant to scrap with metal fearing ball damage and subsequent loss of seal. I wouldn't do that. I have always found that a good, stiff nylon toilet brush and RV toilet cleaner does the job. You can also use a silicone grease to lube and seal things. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 I use this in my Rv repair business. https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=DChcSEwid56bwoq3gAhWNwmQKHXS0AkIYABAIGgJwag&ohost=www.google.com&cid=CAASE-RofQExxp4-kxFkEpLt6zeaetQ&sig=AOD64_1h97Cd2h9CeX36279Q-mm2MT48Qw&ctype=5&q=&ved=2ahUKEwjo6qHwoq3gAhXAHTQIHb_9Cb8Qwg96BAgIEBM&adurl= I normally tell them about it or if I have some on the service vehicle, I give it to them . Just fill the bowl with water, pour a tablespoon or less in and let site. I have let ours get really bad for a test. It took 12 applications, but never taken it apart in 7 years. If you scrape it do not call me to fix it. Vern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Just go buy a bottle of Lime-Away . Put a couple inches of water in the bowl and a good healthy shot of Lime-Away . Don't be afraid to apply too much . Let it sit . No scrubbing required . Our toilet seal is original . It's been doing it's job for almost 19 years . I simply repeat as needed . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewilso Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 I pour in some vinegar & let it sit awhile, then continue to use it periodically as a preventative measure. Quote Dave W. KE5GOH Stuck in the 70's --- In E. Texas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc2 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, dewilso said: I pour in some vinegar & let it sit awhile, then continue to use it periodically as a preventative measure. X2-white generic brand. Quote 2010 Newmar Dutch Aire 4304-Spartan Chassis-Cummins ISL 425hp-2013 Chevrolet Equinox AWD Towed-SKP# 120487-FMCA #402879- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 2 hours ago, dewilso said: I pour in some vinegar I should have mentioned that one, but forgot about it. Pam is the one who usually takes care of that part........... She also said that you want to use white vinegar, whatever that is. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 you can use the apple vinegar but it costs a little more and will only do an equal job so why woud you. I have use it on somethings sparingly in a pinch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Lime-Away . For a single dollar ( Dollar Tree ) , it can't be beat . And , It doesn't stink . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 On 2/8/2019 at 4:04 PM, dewilso said: I pour in some vinegar & let it sit awhile, then continue to use it periodically as a preventative measure. Same here. I just had this problem for the first time. Poured some vinegar in the bowl and let it set for an hour or more then used a toilet brush to clean the opening as described by Randyretired. In my case, I had to do it a couple of times, but the bowl is now holding water. Quote LindaH 2014 Winnebago Aspect 27K 2011 Kia Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill w/bus Posted February 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 llThanks to all. I was thinking of the hardness causing harm to the plastic valve. Using Lime Away. Appears to be slowly 'clearing' the problem. Cost was $4.33 w/tax at the Dollar General. Again thanks to all. Bill Quote Bill & Lynn Baxter MCI102A3 Conversion, Detroit Diesel S50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 So , Dollar General isn't such a good deal anymore . Try Dollar Tree . They aren't as prolific as DG , but ... Anyway , good your 'problem' is disappearing . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 It is good your problem is going away. This is an ongoing problem that is made worse by hard water like what is often found in the Southwest. Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57becky Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 This thread sounds like an advertisement for RV water softeners 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 8 hours ago, 57becky said: This thread sounds like an advertisement for RV water softeners 😁 Ha . You could buy about 50 years worth of Lime-Away for the cost of even a cheap water softener , not to mention what it takes to keep them functional . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill w/bus Posted February 12, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 We did invest in a water softener fon the investmenur years ago. If it extends the life of the hot water heater by a few year then the investment would be worthy. Bill Quote Bill & Lynn Baxter MCI102A3 Conversion, Detroit Diesel S50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted February 12, 2019 Report Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill w/bus said: We did invest in a water softener fon the investmenur years ago. If it extends the life of the hot water heater by a few year then the investment would be worthy. Bill Hmm , maybe if the tank were never drained and cleaned as it should be . I replaced the original heating element a few years ago . The original gave about 15 years of service . The new element cost about 8 dollars . If the new element last even half as long as the original , it would take way more than 50 years to come close to breaking even on the softener cost . Of course , by then the tank interior might be so caked that it might be time for its replacement . But , I'll leave that task to some young RV restorer a lifetime or two down the road . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankgibbons Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 I was tired of the smell of a weekend of drinking and grilling out rising from the underbelly of our recreational vehicle. Then I bought the Camco ultra give my RV a proper toilet treatment. https://rvingreviews.com/plumbing/rv-toilet-chemicals-holding-tank-treatment/ I was wishing it will be a good toilet treatment, nothing more I was expecting. Surprisingly, it worked well. It made my RV smell like a Florida citrus orchard while masking the smell coming from the dungeon below. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted November 13, 2019 Report Share Posted November 13, 2019 6 hours ago, frankgibbons said: I was tired of the smell of a weekend of drinking and grilling out rising from the underbelly of our recreational vehicle. Then I bought the Camco ultra give my RV a proper toilet treatment. https://rvingreviews.com/plumbing/rv-toilet-chemicals-holding-tank-treatment/ I was wishing it will be a good toilet treatment, nothing more I was expecting. Surprisingly, it worked well. It made my RV smell like a Florida citrus orchard while masking the smell coming from the dungeon below. If you are having smells in your rig, your toilet bowl seal isn't holding well. Pour some vinegar in and let it set. A good seal hold water in the bowl and no smell. All you need is to use plenty of water in your system. We've been out since 2006, just water (plus some vinegar in the bowl and baking soda to clean the toilet) is all we use. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynosback Posted November 14, 2019 Report Share Posted November 14, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, 57becky said: This thread sounds like an advertisement for RV water softeners 😁 I agree completely. Not to mention that his shower head, faucets, toilet, not just the flap but the water ports and even the drainage system will last longer as it will not get the build up that hard water gives. And your skin will thank you as a bonus. Quote 2015 Ram 3500 RC DRW CTD AISIN 410 rear 2016 Mobile Suites 38RSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankgibbons Posted November 16, 2019 Report Share Posted November 16, 2019 On 11/14/2019 at 5:04 AM, Barbaraok said: If you are having smells in your rig, your toilet bowl seal isn't holding well. Pour some vinegar in and let it set. A good seal hold water in the bowl and no smell. All you need is to use plenty of water in your system. We've been out since 2006, just water (plus some vinegar in the bowl and baking soda to clean the toilet) is all we use. Thanks for your suggestion. I'll try the vinegar and baking soda and plenty of water to clean the toilet. Let's see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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