richardbetsey Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 I have a Honda EU2000i generator. When I try to use it with our New Horizons 5th wheel, it will not supply AC power to the trailer when I attach it to the Park AC power input on the trailer with the Camco 50 Amp to 15 Amp pigtail adapter. Along with this problem if I try to attach power to the trailer using thew adapter to a 20Amp ac GFI outlet It poips the GFI. If I pluge it into an AC outlet without a GFI everything works fine. Any ideas on how to get the Honda or a GFI outlet to work. Richard Clauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 You need to buy or make a plug that ties your neutral and ground wires together at the generator to get power thru your surge protector. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardbetsey Posted January 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 I tried that and all it did was trip the GFI on the Honda generator and on a 20 AMP AC outlet with a GFI immediately trip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted January 6, 2019 Report Share Posted January 6, 2019 Are you sure you have neutral and ground? It sounds like you have the hot leg and ground tied together on your plug. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Just bypass your EMS if your are using a generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 45 minutes ago, richardbetsey said: I tried that and all it did was trip the GFI on the Honda generator and on a 20 AMP AC outlet with a GFI immediately trip it. It sounds like the Neutral and Ground wires are tied to the same point in the trailer panel. This is what's causing the GFCI to trip. Make sure the Neutral is connected to an insulated terminal, with only other neutrals connected to it. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBirdman Posted January 7, 2019 Report Share Posted January 7, 2019 Mine does the same. I checked for correct voltage/neutral, all good. I just turn off the EMI, works good for us. Just don't forget to turn it back on before connecting to shore power. 2002 Fifth Avenue RV (RIP) 2015 Ram 3500 Mega-cab DRW(38k miles), 6.7L Cummins Diesel, A668RFE, 3.73, 14,000 GVWR, 5,630 Payload, 27,300 GCWR, 18,460 Max Trailer Weight Rating(For Sale) , living in the frigid north, ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 Daryl is right. Could be a bonding screw in the panel that ties neutral to ground that needs to be removed. 2016 Harley Ultra Classic Limited 2015 Alpine 3620fl 2004 Volvo 670, SOLD 1977 GMC shortbox stepside ( My "antique" truck) 2016 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 http://s301.photobucket.com/home/armys2/indexPics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted January 11, 2019 Report Share Posted January 11, 2019 A call to Honda USA? "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted January 20, 2019 Report Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/11/2019 at 2:08 PM, army said: Daryl is right. Could be a bonding screw in the panel that ties neutral to ground that needs to be removed. ARMY! You're back? I did notice the truck is gone! Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
army Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 On 1/20/2019 at 12:54 PM, HERO Maker said: ARMY! You're back? I did notice the truck is gone! Lol yes once in awhile as u can see by the timing of this reply but thanks for noticing! 2016 Harley Ultra Classic Limited 2015 Alpine 3620fl 2004 Volvo 670, SOLD 1977 GMC shortbox stepside ( My "antique" truck) 2016 Chevrolet Silverado 3500 http://s301.photobucket.com/home/armys2/indexPics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 This may work Rick & Carey,Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo Toyhauler Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850Brabus Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 When I need to use the generator I just bypass the EMS. Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickW Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 For my Honda 3000i I just built a bonding plug. Took less than 5 minutes and cost less than $5. Like Brad said if your EMS has a bypass switch that will work too. I did the bonding plug route as I knew the one time I forget to turn the bypass off after using the generator, we would actually hookup to a bad power source and we get fried due to the EMS being in bypass. 2017 Entegra Anthem 44A SOLD - 2004 Volvo 780. 465hp and 10sp Auto Shift (from 2010~2017) SOLD - 2009 Montana 3400RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 So, did anyone read the original post? He's trying to figure out why a GFCI is tripping, not how to bypass an EMS, or trick it with a bonding plug. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 The GFCI on the trailer is tripping because he is trying to back feed the panel thru that outlet. That is not what a GFCI outlet should allow and not where you supply power to your trailer. On popping the GFCI on the genset, something is wired wrong and assuming that Honda is more than likely correct and our finely assembled trailers are not, I would look at the wiring on the 50 amp plug on the trailer and inside the the EMS and breaker box to see if someone has crossed up the neutral and ground wires somewhere. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Finding ground faults can be difficult but if it always pops a ground fault when the RV is plugged into one there is a problem. My 50 amp power source at my house is a ground fault protected circuit and occasionally when friends come by we find a problem. The fault is usually caused by the ground crossed with the neutral. Often times we find the electric water heater element has a fault but other things can cause it. Some just ignore the problem since it works without ground fault but I don't do that. My method of locating the problem is to disconnect all of the neutral wires in the RV breaker box and put them back one at a time. The bad circuit should trip the ground fault when it is connected. A load is required to make the ground fault trip so start with a breaker with something on and all of the rest off. This is somewhat technical and if you are not comfortable working on electric circuits you may want to hire it out. Another method is using a volt/ohm meter. Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 Wait, are you saying that you are using a male-to-male 15a household plug to put power INTO one of your outlets from the generator outlets? You should never use a male to male adapter! You should figure out why it won't supply power through the shore power connector. That should work. Test your adapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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