jenandjon Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I have been using a 55 gallon barrel for extra water. I put a valve stem in one bung to pressurize it. forcing the water through a hose to refill my tank. I was wondering how you all set yours up. I had my barrel laying the bed of my pickup. I plugged in a cheap Wal-Mart air compressor to pressurize it. It's slow but it works. My fresh water tank in my 5th wheel only holds about 25 gallons. Someone changed it out once for whatever reason I don't know. I can refill it twice without dumping my waste tanks. I want to mount something down on the frame of the truck. I can pressurize it off the truck air tanks and just turn on a valve. Something along the lines of a water tank off a cement mixer but I only need 50 gallons. Maybe I am overthinking the whole thing. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I use a standard 12v RV type water pump for refills. Cheap, easy and it's always nice having a "spare" water pump on hand if the house pump were to fail. It's also easily moved between different water feed sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 I have two 33 gallon tanks, from eBay, mounted out side of the frame. Or will have whenI Get them on. I have the same setup on my ton truck only smaller tanks so I Know it works. They are plumed together at the bottom with Ts for the fill and drain. I have a high volume pump I believe 5 gpm, also eBay. This works very well. I had the tank in the bed of the pickup like you and also,tried the air route. it was slow and took a lot of attention to keep the right amount of pressure. You could use a pressure control valve but I question the longevity of a plastic tank being pressured and depressed like that. Let me know if you would like a drawing or pictures. I also have a black water holding tank on the ton truck and soon on the Volvo I use a mascarater pump on the trailer to pump,it to the truck. I have a pump on the truck for emptying as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted May 30, 2018 Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 I have a 100 gallon fresh water tank mounted on my truck and use a RV pump to transfer the water. Sometimes I add a 50 gallon plastic barrel and just add a piece of pex to the pump inlet to reach the bottom of the barrel. The pump is wired to battery clips so it can be used by others. Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEasy Posted May 30, 2018 Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 The RV water pump works well for me, too. On mine, there is a female hose fitting on the "in" side and a male hose fitting on the "out" side. I made a 55 gal barrel length "U" shaped pipe out of PVC that will go into the white plastic barrel and hang over the side. The barrel end has a water filter. The outside end has a male hose fitting that attaches to the pump. The output of the pump is fed to a FW hose and attached to the City Water Connection on the trailer. I don't need to transfer to the FWT but I can. For gray water and black (if I have to), I carry two blue plastic 55 gallon drums. Like Lance A Lot, a macerator pump is used to dump the trailer contents into the tank. When I get home, I just fill a 3/4 inch hose with water, put one end in the barrel and the drop the other end into the septic tank fill port. Mr gravity does the work. Chet & Deb '01 Volvo 660 w/ Smart '19 Forest River Columbus 320RS 5th wheel 2022 Chev 2500HD Long Bed Retired CWO4, USN and federal service Electronics Tech/Network Engineer/Welder/Machinist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted May 30, 2018 Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 My wife and I dry camp in a horse camp ground for two weeks, more if the Park Ranger is not around. This means three or four dumps black and gray, more fresh water. I had a 30 gallon tow behind tank looked a little funny behind a ton truck. It was a pain, smelled bad and took forever. Now Nadine comes out sees me in the lounge chair and says I thought you were going to dump. All done and fresh filled. Almost fun, its probably the best mod I have done. Nadine won't let me take the Volvo in August if I don't have the water works done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted May 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 See I knew I was over thinking this. What do you use for a vent? Lance a lott that would be great if I could see a diagram. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted May 30, 2018 Report Share Posted May 30, 2018 Got to take the middle boy to dmv for driving test today but I will get back to you. The tanks I bought have 4 outlets on one end two 1" fpt and two 3/8 fpt They are on opposite corners so just use the small one as a vent. I will apologize in advance for my artistic talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyA Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 When my youngest son outgrew his super-single-twin waterbed I re-purposed the mattress. It is not baffled or chambered and is constructed out of some really thick/heavy vinyl. I take it along when we go off grid camping. So far I have only used it for gray water collection and dumping. It is easy to store, unroll and fill with a macerator pump as needed. I just lay it flat on the bed of the Volvo, fill it up and drive to a dump station. I have often thought a "clean" one would be great for potable water but not knowing how much or if any lead is in the vinyl I have not tried it. For potable water, I have a 50-gallon drinking water safe tank from Northern Tool and an extra 12V Shurflo pump. My first hard side camper was a 19' Vega (1973). The fresh water tank was in the front of the trailer under the jack-knife sofa bed - a 25 gallon galvanized steel tank with a 12VDC compressor set for 30 psi rather than a water pump. It had a full bath but no gray water tank. You used a bucket, blue tank or just let it run onto the ground. The black tank was 20 gallons. Randy, Nancy and Oscar "The Great White" - 2004 Volvo VNL670, D12, 10-speed, converted to single axle pulling a Keystone Cambridge 5th wheel, 40', 4 slides and about 19,000# with empty tanks. ARS - WB4BZX, Electrical Engineer, Master Electrician, D.Ed., Professor Emeritus - Happily Retired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLOY Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 Pulled out the 70gal that was next to the front pass through and installed two 120gal tanks over the axles. Edit....would air from a compressor contaminate the water? 2011 Cameo 34SB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 I have a 120 gallon well pressure tank. I fill up and the internal bladder pushes the water back out. Ball valve and hose bib controls. Have been using for years. Works very well. Just like having full hookups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted May 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 8 hours ago, ALLOY said: Edit....would air from a compressor contaminate the water? That is a good question. I have used the little compressor in my picture above along with a small oil less compressor form harbor freight. I dont think they would have anything in there to contaminate the water. Using the truck air I really don't know. It might. I am changing my thinking from air to a separate 12v pump. That just makes more sense to me. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted May 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 6 hours ago, tyates007 said: I have a 120 gallon well pressure tank. I fill up and the internal bladder pushes the water back out. Ball valve and hose bib controls. Have been using for years. Works very well. Just like having full hookups. That is a good idea. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyA Posted May 31, 2018 Report Share Posted May 31, 2018 11 hours ago, ALLOY said: Edit....would air from a compressor contaminate the water? It could, depending on how much oil blow-by the truck compressor has and what the atmosphere is like when you charge the drum. The oil-less compressor without a tank using a moisture/dust filter to collect condensation and grow microscopic critters would be my 2nd choice. An RV water pump would be my first choice. You can pick up disposable airline filters for paint spraying at Wal-Mart or Harbor Freight that would contain any airborne particles larger than 1 micron. Randy, Nancy and Oscar "The Great White" - 2004 Volvo VNL670, D12, 10-speed, converted to single axle pulling a Keystone Cambridge 5th wheel, 40', 4 slides and about 19,000# with empty tanks. ARS - WB4BZX, Electrical Engineer, Master Electrician, D.Ed., Professor Emeritus - Happily Retired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybanshee Posted June 5, 2018 Report Share Posted June 5, 2018 I have a 55 gal tank mounted on each side of the frame in front of the fuel tanks. They are plumbed into the side box where a RV pump is used to the 5th wheel. Bought the clear tanks at a Tractor supply house. 2007 Volvo 780 Ultrashift Trailersaver Hitch 2017 Momentum 397th 3 Yamaha Banshees 2 Honda 400EX's Polaris Outlaw 50 Polaris Outlaw 110 EFi 2018 Polaris RZR S 1000 Stealth Black 2019 Polaris RZR S 1000 Titanium Matte Metal 2015 Polaris RZR S 900 VooDoo Blue https://i.imgur.com/e0ajU8Pl.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gell Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 crazybanshee, How did you plumb into the tank from Tractor Supply? If it's like the one I looked at, it has a 3/4 inch NPT drain and a 5" screw on cap on top. I assume you pump in and out the drain hole. How did you install a vent line to the top? Thanks, Jim 2001 Volvo 770, Detroit 60 Series, Gen 2 Autoshift Passenger assist elevator to enter cab - for when we need it, or sell it? '05 Travel Supreme Select 40 RLQSO 5th wheel 2016 smart car We started full timing on December 1st 2014 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness - Mark Twain Not all that wander are lost - J. R. R. Tolkien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybanshee Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 I have a 55 gal tank mounted on each side of the frame in front of the fuel tanks. They are plumbed into the side box where a RV pump is used to the 5th wheel. Bought the clear tanks at a Tractor supply house. the tank has a 1" inlet on top that I plumbed into a marine water inlet with the flush screw top that is on top the bed. I drilled a 3/8" hole in the cap and used a brass fitting for a vent line. 2007 Volvo 780 Ultrashift Trailersaver Hitch 2017 Momentum 397th 3 Yamaha Banshees 2 Honda 400EX's Polaris Outlaw 50 Polaris Outlaw 110 EFi 2018 Polaris RZR S 1000 Stealth Black 2019 Polaris RZR S 1000 Titanium Matte Metal 2015 Polaris RZR S 900 VooDoo Blue https://i.imgur.com/e0ajU8Pl.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 picture did not post I will work on it. Sorry this took so long, and that my artistic ability is as bad as my penmanship and spelling. They do work wery well. The tanks come from ebay and have 4 ports on one end 2 large and 2 small they are on opposite corners so you can flip the tank. I drew the rinse pipe on the wrong side, it is on the same end as the vent and drain. You drill the 1\2 inch npt fitting through so the pipe can pass through and be glued in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted June 6, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Lance A Lott said: picture did not post I will work on it. Sorry this took so long, and that my artistic ability is as bad as my penmanship and spelling. They do work wery well. The tanks come from ebay and have 4 ports on one end 2 large and 2 small they are on opposite corners so you can flip the tank. I drew the rinse pipe on the wrong side, it is on the same end as the vent and drain. You drill the 1\2 inch npt fitting through so the pipe can pass through and be glued in place. Thats fine. I'm not doing it right now anyway. Just getting a plan together. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 7 hours ago, jenandjon said: Thats fine. I'm not doing it right now anyway. Just getting a plan together. Looks like i got it feel free to contact me if you have questions, anyone. Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad NSW Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 Great source for RV tanks of ALL sizes and prices look fairly reasonable. All plumbed for pumps and vents. RV tank source I'll probably order from them when I figure out where we want to put an extra fresh water tank. 2010 Freightliner, DD15 Eaton Ultrashift, 2015 New Horizons 5th Wheel. Occupants - Dena/Brad/Hershey BLOG LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted June 6, 2018 Report Share Posted June 6, 2018 A lot of these tank suppliers will spin weld the fittings onto the tank if you provide instructions as to location and size. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imurphy907 Posted June 7, 2018 Report Share Posted June 7, 2018 I don't haul a car at this point. So I use a 275 gallon IBC tote on the back of the truck. When I build my bed it will have at least 100 gallons of water storage designed into it. 2016 Road Warrior 420 2001 Volvo VNL 660 Alaska Based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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