lockmup68 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/07/anheuser-busch-preorders-40-tesla-semis.html 2003 International Eagle 9200i, Cummins ISX, Freedomline 2007 Teton Scottsdale XT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8r3400 Posted December 7, 2017 Report Share Posted December 7, 2017 Corporate "green" write-offs... Av8r34002012 Volvo VNL 730 D13 iShift & 2021 Grand Design Momentum 397TH I'd rather die trying to live - Than live trying not to die. -Leonard Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 History is littered with big egos who thought they could teach the automotive world a thing or two. One of the best examples is Henry J Kaiser, who at least teamed up with a real automotive guy Joseph Frazer to try right after WWII, and formed Kaiser-Frazer Automobile Company. And that company had everything going for it, a sellers market place, plenty of cash, significant successes in various big industrial businesses and defense contracts, in other words a great track record. But Henry J Kaiser was his own worst enemy. After just a few years Joe Frazer left the partnership and in less than 7 years the Kaiser-Frazer Company stopped making cars and had to settle with a small acquisition called Willys-Overland, making the Jeep, a very small specialty vehicle manufacturer in Toledo OH. Their dreams of becoming one of the big 3 were completely dashed. The marketplace is ruthless with promises broken and delays. This NY Times article(not my favorite new source) enumerates some of Tesla's problems, which are being glossed over by most main stream media and certainly an over exuberant stock market. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/business/tesla-elon-musk.htm If you want to read the best book on Kaiser-Frazer, it is "The Last Onslaught on Detroit" by Richard Langworth. Published in the 1970's when the author, a friend of mine was able to interview the players in the story before they passed away. https://www.amazon.com/Kaiser-Frazer-Last-Onslaught-Detroit-Automobile/dp/0915038048/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1512711466&sr=8-15&keywords=richard+langworth Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeBeFulltimers Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Pulled a lot of beer loads in my trucking days and they are heavy, Heavy, HEAVY! Total electric will never work in trucking. Fulltiming since September 1, 2010 2012 Ford F-350 PSD SRW Lariat Crew Cab 2012 Montana 3585SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 The thing about Anheuser-busch is they are always looking for ways to save money. When they sold out to that company in Belgium the beer delivery guys lost their semi trucks. In this part of the country there are small towns all spread out. The delivery guys will drive a few hundred miles a day. So they drive the beer truck. In all infinite wisdom the new company took their trucks away and gave them vans. Thinking a van gets way better mileage than a big ole semi truck. Problem was they couldn't get all their product in one load. Having to make several trips daily back to the distributor. After several months of this they got their trucks back. I was long haul trucking I hauled many many loads of beer from St Louis. Id say these new Tesla trucks will be used for inner city deliveries rather then long haul. I could be wrong. It will be interesting to see how well these trucks do. Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 But maybe the result in the attempts will be a diesel-electric drive train which garners a lot of the advantages torque-wise of electrics. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Av8r3400 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 49 minutes ago, Mark and Dale Bruss said: But maybe the result in the attempts will be a diesel-electric drive train which garners a lot of the advantages torque-wise of electrics. I've often wondered why we haven't seen this. Av8r34002012 Volvo VNL 730 D13 iShift & 2021 Grand Design Momentum 397TH I'd rather die trying to live - Than live trying not to die. -Leonard Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 This is quite a step for this company, going from horses pulling wagons to electric trucks. Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan0043 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Hi Everyone, Anheuser-Busch will probably use the trucks to transport Busch Lite. Remember it's a lighter beer, less calories. Al 2012 Volvo VNL 630 w/ I-Shift; D13 engine; " Veeger " Redwood, model 3401R ; 5th Wheel Trailer, " Dead Wood " 2006 Smart Car " Killer Frog " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 With 140+ semi's already pre-ordered by large fleet operators like Walmart, Anheuser-Busch, J.B.Hunt, Ryder, etc., I wouldn't count Tesla out just yet. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 My big question is why companies like Daimler, Paccar, Siemens, or one of the big Japanese electric firms aren't jumping all over the idea? GE would be a good candidate to exploit this technology if messrs Welsh and Immelt didn't run them directly into the ground. Is it because they are all backward thinking lack of innovation type of places, or they realize the significant hurdles and they are going to let Musk trip all over them. Then go in and pick up the pieces and make some real dough. The diesel/electric idea would seem to have some merit except for the weight penalty. And in this day and age you aren't going to get any investment backing unless it is totally "green". And for the moment everyone seems to have lost their collective mind thinking that electric vehicles don't pollute. Or the enormous shift in infrastructure this sort of change is going to require. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Rod Posted December 9, 2017 Report Share Posted December 9, 2017 I always thought walmart was on the right track with their electric/gas turbine prototype truck: https://corporate.walmart.com/_news_/news-archive/2014/03/26/walmart-debuts-futuristic-truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmup68 Posted December 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2017 Cummins released their version in Sept: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1112434_cummins-electric-semi-truck-traditional-maker-takes-on-tesla Daimler released there's in Oct: https://www.daimler.com/products/trucks/mercedes-benz/mercedes-benz-electric-truck.html Most of the mining equipment is diesel generators driving electric motors, many, many, many hours on these rigs over the years with the heaviest loads imaginable: https://jalopnik.com/5054135/caterpillar-793-worlds-coolest-dump-truck-now-with-electric-drive 2003 International Eagle 9200i, Cummins ISX, Freedomline 2007 Teton Scottsdale XT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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