SuiteSuccess Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I used to add a padlock through the second hole on the Binkley Hitch to prevent tampering with the Hitch while parked but abandoned that after a discussion we had on fires in the trailer and the potential to quickly unhitch and save the truck if it were safe to do so. Now my concern has turned to an added pin behind the "block" after one of our forum members had his trailer come unhitched due to a deformity in the block which defeated the standard single spring loaded pin and allowed the block (which locks the jaws) to back out opening the jaws. I know this was an isolated event that was not a manufacturing defect from Binkley but was wondering what folks are using in the second hole if anything? I'm thinking of putting a large cotter pin attached to a small chain so I could solve both issues: quick disconnect and added assurance behind block. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Lock when parked, empty on the road. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Can you tell us more about 12 minutes ago, SuiteSuccess said: trailer come unhitched due to a deformity in the block which defeated the standard single spring loaded pin and allowed the block (which locks the jaws) to back out opening the jaws. Can you tell us more of what happened.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm not familiar with your set up, Carl, but the first thing that comes to mind is would it be possible to use something like a clip from a dog chain or something similar that would be easy to remove? The only other thing that comes to mind is if it is easy for you to pull then it would be easy for anyone else to fool with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 When you guys say "Binkley Hitch Head" do you mean this Holland Fifth Wheel? http://safholland.ca/ca/en/products/fifth-wheels/holland-special-and-light-commercial/holland-fw0001 "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtgeodog Posted September 19, 2017 Report Share Posted September 19, 2017 Empty while on the road lock when parked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 23 minutes ago, noteven said: When you guys say "Binkley Hitch Head" do you mean this Holland Fifth Wheel? http://safholland.ca/ca/en/products/fifth-wheels/holland-special-and-light-commercial/holland-fw0001 That's it. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Now that I see i, I am familiar with it. I have the same head on my hitch. I am going to look at mine tomorrow and see if the clip idea will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Mntom said: I'm not familiar with your set up, Carl, but the first thing that comes to mind is would it be possible to use something like a clip from a dog chain or something similar that would be easy to remove? The only other thing that comes to mind is if it is easy for you to pull then it would be easy for anyone else to fool with. Tom, Since I no longer put a padlock on I make it a habit to ALWAYS check my Hitch after every stop to make sure no one has messed with it. If my second pin were to be pulled that would also be a visual cue to something not being right. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 2 hours ago, MrSeas said: Can you tell us more about Can you tell us more of what happened.......? MrSeas, we were the unfortunate ones that dropped our trailer. While Henry was getting his knees worked on, his helper built our hitch and ground the lock block into a wedge instead of squared up to the world and then ground a taper into the locking pin. I am still thankful that it dropped when it did instead of on the road in traffic. Henry stepped up to the plate and replaced the top half of the hitch and paid for the repairs to our trailer. Just wish it hadn't happened but it did and we can all learn from it. Since then, I modified the hitch with a new handle that works better to release and also acts as part of the new secondary locks that I added to the hitch. We also added another piece of 3/8 bar stick, match drilled it to the two new holes in the handle and now use two "D" pins as a 2nd and 3rd lock. They are easy to pop out in an emergency and the hitch would need to be in pieces for all three to fail. I still check them after each stop as well as checking the tie downs and chocks on the Smart car before leaving. It is not a nice feeling to hear your trailer hit the ground and I don't think I ever will now. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Thanks for filling in the blanks as to the failure that Suite was referring too. I’m sorry it happened and am glad to hear everything worked out. I also had a bit of a “scare” the first time I used the new to me hitch... but that’s another story. I am interested in the mods you made to your hitch. Any chance for any pictures of the improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'mdonewiththis forum Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 Cal, you could go to a hardware store and get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GN3H5A/ref=s9_acsd_zgift_hd_bw_b1420P_c_x_w/143-0381950-1828221?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-5&pf_rd_r=XT3NM0FY0FVGT3R440NV&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=cdae9b51-edd2-57cb-9fad-2f8a1c294289&pf_rd_i=15737361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hone eagle Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 No lock ,however I 'lean the truck' against the hitch when stopping. 2005 volvo 670 freedomline singledNewmar Torrey Pine 34rskswoot woot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Mntom said: Cal, you could go to a hardware store and get something like this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001GN3H5A/ref=s9_acsd_zgift_hd_bw_b1420P_c_x_w/143-0381950-1828221?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-5&pf_rd_r=XT3NM0FY0FVGT3R440NV&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=cdae9b51-edd2-57cb-9fad-2f8a1c294289&pf_rd_i=15737361 Tom, Thought of that. Tractor Supply shopping today. I'm still thinking a large cotter pin. Quick release but should be secure in the hole. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 50 minutes ago, hone eagle said: No lock ,however I 'lean the truck' against the hitch when stopping. So Ralf, you back up slightly to put pressure on the jaws? 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 An advantage of having my hitch forward is that you cannot reach the handle or safety pin without either climbing onto the deck and crawling-reaching under the overhang or have access to the long hook and handle extension. I still check after every stop though. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 12 hours ago, MrSeas said: Thanks for filling in the blanks as to the failure that Suite was referring too. I’m sorry it happened and am glad to hear everything worked out. I also had a bit of a “scare” the first time I used the new to me hitch... but that’s another story. I am interested in the mods you made to your hitch. Any chance for any pictures of the improvements. Will take one when I get home tonight for you 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Imurphy907 Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 My plate is locked when ever the trailer is hooked up. Takes me a whole 45 seconds to jump out and unlock when not in a hurry. Not very worried about the trailer being on fire. 2016 Road Warrior 420 2001 Volvo VNL 660 Alaska Based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hone eagle Posted September 20, 2017 Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 8 hours ago, SuiteSuccess said: So Ralf, you back up slightly to put pressure on the jaws? Ya it takes more then a 3' extension to 'pop' it ,hopefully more trouble for a typical jerk to bother with. 2005 volvo 670 freedomline singledNewmar Torrey Pine 34rskswoot woot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2017 1 hour ago, hone eagle said: Ya it takes more then a 3' extension to 'pop' it ,hopefully more trouble for a typical jerk to bother with. I told Laurie you were smart😋 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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