GlennWest Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Could I be hooked up to wrong air supply. Light, very light, braking ok. Otherwise Teton tires lock. I double checked wiring and it is right. Any amount of normal breaking locks Teton tire, smokes 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Does adjusting the Hayes do anything? The knob is opposite of what you would expect, "Turning the handle clockwise will decrease the rate of application of the trailer brakes, while counter clockwise will increase the rate of application." So if you turned it counter clockwise to put it at its lowest setting, it was actually at it's highest. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Adjusting has no effect on it at all. Either unit bad or wrong air hookup I believe. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 If you step on the pedal and the knob moves, then you have brake applied air to it. Do you have a DC amp meter? You can measure the amperage on your Blue output wire based on the applied brake pedal application. I have a meter and am in the north Houston (Conroe) area. I'll have some time available late next week or next weekend if you want to trouble shoot it. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Yes knob moves when brake applied. Very quickly goes all the way over. What if I teed into brake air guage. I have a nice multimeter. I will check current tomorrow 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Tee into the brake applied pressure. That is what I did. Your meter needs to read DC amperage. DC voltage doesn't read correctly. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Yes I can read dc amps 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 That is why I like the direclink. It has 10 settings and it can adjust it on the fly. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 If I can't get it working, I am going to direct link 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 31, 2016 Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Hayes had a bad run. There are several others that had a controller that never worked properly out of the box. Mine let the magic smoke out of itself....the replacement seems to work. If or when this one dies, I'll go with the direct link as well. Or maybe by then we'll have a different rig with Blue Dot.... Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 Mine has never worked good. I do believe it is faulty. I was going to check output today but it raining. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 If you go with direclink, you will have the trailer brakes adjusted too tight and you will need to replace brake pads in a year. Adjust is to 1 or 2 and see how that works. I like that I'd it is raining I can just tap,the button a couple times and reduce trailer braking. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Electric over hydraulic Glen? If so you need an electrical load so the pump will function correctly. A brake magnet or two most say works, but I had a couple of these:http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/221468420028?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true in parallel with the pump and worked like a charm! Â I also worked my Hayes over this summer and a few minor adjustments inside and lubed it for a huge difference. I was seeing full application by 15psi so not much adjustment available. I think now it takes 45 psi to get full application. 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 No all electric. Would like to upgrade but not at this time. When they are ready to replace, likely. They stop gpod, too good, lol. That unit is new this spring. Maybe I should disassemble mine. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Yep, pull it apart! Mine had the plastic part that adjusted the gain installed wrong. I either stretched the spring or replaced it with a stiffer one. Also I remember making a spacer between the air cylinder and the rod. Â Works great now. 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Pulled apart. Screw with nut inside holding circuit board in place loose. Board moving when arm moves. Tightened. See nothing else. I did have on least gain. Also my meter is 10 amp max. How many do I need 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 I think each brake magnet will or should draw 4amp at max input. 10amp reading should show that they work. Have your wife apply a light pressure on the brake pedal- just enough to make the applied pressure move to 10-15 lbs or so,l as you measure with the meter. Have the gain on the Hayes turned all the way down to lowest point, step on the pedal- measure. Turn knob 1 turn up in gain- Measure Turn knob again etc. You should be able to see an increase in output. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted January 1, 2017 Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 6 magnets should be in the 10-16amp range depending on brand and ratings. Â Can you modulate the controller now? How much applied pressure does it take to max out the lever to the right? My issue was that it only took 15psi or less to max it out wiht the gain on the lightest setting. I also had a noticeable click from the controller when I applied the brakes. This was "Wasting" about half of the little air cylinder's stroke before it touched the lever.....I made a spacer to take this up. The heavier spring made it take 45 psi, so I was able to dial the gain up and actually modulate the trailer brakes on a normal stop. 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 Going to wait later to check out. In a rv park, its Sunday and a holiday. Would have to build up air. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Ok, got dc amp meter. At full lock reading 6.7 amps at camper on blue brake wire. It goes from - reading up as air is applied or manual enguagement, sliding knob. Sounds like I have brake magnet problems. If so, I likely will upgrade. Also at each wheel reading 1.4ish each wheel at full lock. This is controller on lowest setting 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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