Jeff.Sloan Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 ummmm . . . ouch! That's going to hurt the wallet (and ego)~ So, while we are on the topic of being ready for FUBAR situations, any kits out there for mounting a winch to the front of a VNL?? 2004 Volvo 630, Cummins ISX, Eaton 10 speed (air assist clutch), 3.71 3.07 rear locker, ET jr, 200" WB, GearMaster 2017 Forest River Sierra 372LOK Full time June 2017 DW, 2 kids, and 2 dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneElliot Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 This was a video I saw a few days ago...made me cringe. I have taken a horse trailer on some super sketchy roads (aka rutted space between cacti) but they are built for that...I certainly wouldn't have even thoughts about taking my 5'er down them! There are some places I would consider taking a camper that others wouldn't, purely because of my experience level. But if a sign says no trailers, there is a reason and it should be heeded. I'm sure I'll do something embarassing and/or expensive at some point in the future of my full-timing days but here's hoping it's not because I was being an idiot and not paying attention to instructions! 2007 Keystone Springdale 245 FWRLL-S (modified) 2000 F-250 7.3L SRW Cody and Kye, border collie extraordinaires Latest departure date: 10/1/2017 Find us at www.nomadicpawprints.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imurphy907 Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 With no oncoming traffic that should have been easy to navigate. I am working on a bumper to hold my 12,000lb winch. 2016 Road Warrior 420 2001 Volvo VNL 660 Alaska Based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm planning to build a set-up like Darryl's for the smart winch, so making it slip into the pull eye recepticle in the front bumper of the Volvo would be pretty simple. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdonlybob Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Pretty hard to justify that FUBAR......way too many just plain stupid things going on there. I have been around winches a fair amount, and am surprised that they didn't keep people back away from that cable....could have made an already bad situation worse.. Also surprised that in that amount of time no authorities showed up... 1989 Safari Serengeti 34'Towing a 1952 M38A1 Military Willys Past HDT owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 I want to say that particular road is in eastern Tennessee. Fondly called Tail of the Dragon for its 318 curves in 11 miles, also know as US 129. Bad road for anything longer than a Smart car.... But very fun in muscle cars, corvettes, bikes, etc! EDIT- I didn't watch the video- just looked at the pic Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Wasn't there a tunnel in the video? No tunnels on 129, aka Deals Gap. That said, I agree that it looks like some of the roads in that area. I've been on a bunch of roads down there that are clearly marked "no trailers" and such. Ever been to Burke's Garden? Severely twisty and only one way in or out. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Schneider Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looks like US 16A south of Mt. Rushmore in the Black Hills of South Dakota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 Looks like US 16A south of Mt. Rushmore in the Black Hills of South Dakota. I had that thought, but if I remember correctly, that road has three tunnels, and in the video they said there were two. Been wrong before though. Another great motorcycle road........... Someone here will know exactly where it is. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted December 22, 2016 Report Share Posted December 22, 2016 It was 16A in SD. There are 3 tunnels in the area, but only two are actually on 16A. The Dragon would be easy even with my big turning radius--there are lots of other roads in east TN that wouldn't be so friendly. That includes at least a half dozen railroad underpasses at less than 7'. 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Basic luck of knowledge, instruction and practice. Doesn't matter which particular road this is or in which state. Geography will not alleviate the basic problem shown in the video. Another example in this illustrious industry known as RV industry. Sign the sales papers and the bank loan documents, hook it up to your pickup and go. All qualify for the "RV experience and the way of life". The brilliant, the clever, barely capable, as do the idiots and morons. Let's see, licenses, or at least minimal instructions are required to operate cars, boats, motorcycles, airplanes, heavy equipment, machinery, etc., etc. Not RVing, "You already have the keys to your pickup, right? Here are the keys to you fifth, let's go onto the sales lot and hook her up". "By the way, that gate out of the sales lot is wide, but keep it to the left before you take a right onto the street". That's the extent of RVing education, if any at all. OK, first time you take a street corner to the right and the fifth follows you over the sidewalk curb, you figure out what to do, if you are a member of the first three subgroups of RVers. If you are a member of the last two, you keep doing it over and over. A friend of mine (he's brilliant) was ready to drive off his 40 plus footer from the manufacturer. I hooked up my 40 footer to the Volvo, took it out of my (very narrow) driveway onto the road and swapped seats with him. We did straight country roads, we did interstate (a breeze), then narrow and windy country road, we practiced backing into slots on an empty parking lot. Then I had him drive into a Walmart parking lot and stop. I took over the left seat and demonstrated that a 40 footer can be maneuvered on such a lot and driven even in between the isles if you plan it and position the rigs at some odd angles and wide approaches. Also I demonstrated that some aisles and pathways are just not "make-able" and that it's better to pass those by and pick another way. Then he tried the same on that lot and passed with flying colors. How many heard of anyone offering such a rudimentary "education", by the industry, the dealers, the sales people, or be required by the state. That corner in that video, was easily "make-able", all he had to do was to drive on the wrong side of the road, "sorry oncoming traffic, you might have to stop, or move over, until I pass". Guy's a moron, who still didn't master the concept of wide turns to the blind side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Shouldn't have been there to begin with but so many ways to do it without totalling your trailer. Always easier to screw up traffic and back out after you see that "no trailer" sign than just continuing on. MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuneElliot Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 I often thought there should be a lesson in trailer towing required when a person gets their license since most people will haul at least a small trailer at some point in their life. Even if they don't it would be useful knowledge to have regarding stopping power. I don't know how many times I've had some idiot cut me off or pull out in front of me when I'm hauling a loaded horse trailer...you CAN'T just slam on the brakes with live cargo. Maybe these a'holes just don't know and an education would help, or maybe they just don't care. Either way, it does surprise me that any one can go get the biggest trailer they want and haul it anywhere without any kind of training. 2007 Keystone Springdale 245 FWRLL-S (modified) 2000 F-250 7.3L SRW Cody and Kye, border collie extraordinaires Latest departure date: 10/1/2017 Find us at www.nomadicpawprints.wordpress.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 I'll betcha' the guy w/ the Montana had CoPilot software...................................... 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 I'll betcha' the guy w/ the Montana had CoPilot software...................................... Yea, Copilot has put me in a bind once, also had wrong directions several times. Google maps seems to work better at this point. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlewood57 Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Yea, Copilot has put me in a bind once, also had wrong directions several times. Google maps seems to work better at this point. I guess I don't want to start a war, but what are everyone's preferences for map assistance? And do you spend personal time going over the suggested routes to double check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted December 23, 2016 Report Share Posted December 23, 2016 Garmin (older truck model), streets and trips, google maps. Yes, co-pilot put me downtown Banff one time. That was a lot of fun!!! Also on a one-way dead end road leading to the Olympic Ski jump in Calgary. Had to back up about 1/2 mile. All great practice!!! Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 We use Copilot, Google Maps, AND a Garmin RV 760. And then a paper map. I check out campgrounds and access roads to campgrounds on the Google street views (if they exist) and sat maps. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveh Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 I have been happy with the Co Pilot RV program but I know it only takes one time. Still has been reliable. But like Jack said I always check google and paper also when planning. Dave and Lana Hasper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrapperBob Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Simple reason for the hang up. He wanted a bigger traile wife said no. He wins Bob and Jenise Class of 2016 Full timers 2008 Newmar Essex 45' 500hp ism towing Honda CRV awd Every day you wake up is a good day!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Chance Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Pretty hard to justify that FUBAR......way too many just plain stupid things going on there. I have been around winches a fair amount, and am surprised that they didn't keep people back away from that cable....could have made an already bad situation worse.. Also surprised that in that amount of time no authorities showed up... I agree about keeping people back from the winch cable. In the mid-80s a crew at FT Stewart, GA, was moving a disabled M1 Abrams tank with a tank retriever (basically an M1 with towing equipment instead of a gun) and the cable snapped. It cut the guy standing between the two vehicles in half. Not pretty. Rob 2012 F350 CC LB DRW 6.7 2020 Solitude 310GK-R, MORryde IS, disc brakes, solar, DP windows Full-time since 8/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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