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International 9400i Sleeper Pro Con Survey


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I am researching this truck because one is nearby for sale. (fixed my typos)
2007
725,000 miles
3 pedal autoshift 10 speed
Cummins ISX 435 hp
Wood deck
Air bags rear, springs front
Looks clean on pictures
Plan to drive it next weekend
It is tandem
Owner uses to pull 5er,

Who knows these trucks, do you like your truck?
Are they quality trucks?
Thanks for your comments

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I have mixed feelings about front air bags. I have not driven one without but do believe with the weight on the front of these trucks, regular suspension should ride well. I get a little wiggle in steering when countering ruts in road. Everything is tight and am told it is the nature of front air suspension.

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Who is driving a HDT without front suspension air bags?

 

 

I looked into this for my MDT. Apparently they are not liked by most class 8 drivers here..apparently, they are somewhat scary in crosswinds....was told to leave things as they are..

 

The owner of the truck shop I use pulls with a class 8. No air bags up front.

 

Would be curious to hear more from those that have them..

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The Harvester you are looking at has no particular negatives in the marketplace. During that era Navistar had an excellent reputation and a solid 20% of the market, almost all to fleets. They began their decline shortly after that truck was produced when the came out with the Prostar with their engine in it which was not a good powertrain. Now that VW has purchased 20% of Navistar their shaky finances are on better footing, so your truck will be supported for a long time. There are lots of them out there.

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I think the consensus will be that it is a completely different truck than the Volvo. Fair to say it is rougher around the edges. International is the classic American truck, the Volvo is largely a European truck that has been Americanized to be more acceptable in this market.

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Who is driving a HDT without front suspension air bags?

I ordered our new truck with springs on scraps advise and I'm glad I did. Our trucks tend to be more top heavy than over the road trucks when you add a big drop box and a smart car on board. The increased sway from an air bag front is a little unsettling compared to a spring suspension and makes for a "tighter" feeling front end compared to the bagged trucks I've driven.

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Shannon, tell me about your truck since it is an International, how is the fit and finish? How is the ride? Likes and dislikes.

 

It's a 2003 with 733k miles on it any my first HDT. It is not a new volvo, but a good, solid, built in the USA truck. The Cummins is a Cummins, just runs. The dash is nice, switches are still tight, The ride is an HDT, I've never driven a volvo, but I assume it is similar, probably not as refined since it is a 5 year older truck than you are looking at. Just a good, solid truck IMO. Mine is a mid roof, so not a tall condo unit. plenty of room, fridge and Microwave behind seats and jack knife couch that folds down into a twin bed. I'm 6'5" and can stand up in sleeper.

 

Rears are air ride, front is springs. Probably time for some new shocks on front, but steers good, the cut is really nice IMO. I don't know the degree cut the front will do, but it is sharper than my F350.

 

Dislikes: Only had it a few weeks and only 5k miles on it. I hate the cup holders! :) They are shallow and my water bottles fall over on turns vs. stay in the cupholder. I do not like the headlights. They are the old style halogen 4 x 6s. I think in 2005, switched to projector lights or at least upgradeable bulbs, so you should be good there. Nothing else really about the International. Many things I would change about the bed, the conversion wiring, etc., but the stock International stuff is fine.

 

Happy to answer any specific questions.

 

HTH,

Shannon

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Thanks for the comments Shannon, good to hear from an owner. So I test drove the 9400 (sat shot gun) and the truck was nice and in good shape. The only thing the shop will need to really tell me is why the SERVICE light is on at the Auto transmission, with an alarm. After sitting for about 30 days it fired right up with outside temps around 35 degrees. We pulled around the owners 5th wheel on the test drive with no problems. I pulled out some oil and having it tested this week. No microwave, no frig, no TV so I get to set up the rig the way I want it. Planning to stretch the frame rails about 4' for a smart car and other items.

 

Instead of this truck having the Jackalope the owner wired up the 3 relay kit to convert the electrical to the trailer. Is this pretty common? Looks like a nice wiring job.

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Take it to the shop and diagnose the trans service light before committing to anything. Get the codes. Is it a freedomline? If so, the freedomline tech line is very responsive and they diagnosed my issue in one voicemail. For me, was ABS sensor and break in the harness.

 

Cummins ISX? Smoked in? Brakes good?

 

Did you download the truck checklist from HDT site? Go through every one of them. Almost, prob worth the $500 to have DOT inspection done.

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Yes it is a ISX, no it has not been smoked in (thank goodness) and the brakes are good, tires are all new within the past 4 years. Oil has 10,000 miles on it. No it is not the Freedomline, it is the Autoshift. Truck has 725,000 miles and is also a mid-roof with plenty of room to stand up.

 

I will provide updates on the oil analysis and the shop inspection of the truck / transmission and code readings as they become available. My wife was so nice as to drop off the oil today for testing. Lastly, the truck was dyno tested 4 years ago and passed with flying colors.

 

Dennis

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