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Is this Rig owned by a member of this forum? I found this image on the net and really like the look of how this HDT is set up. I'd like to learn more about it if possible.

 

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It appears to be singled short (as I would like to do) and color matched very well to the 5er (as I would also like to do).

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It is precisely the layout I would do if I would start from scratch. Toyhauler configuration, single axle or tandem don't really care, but the 5th wheel is right over the axle where IMHO I think it belongs, instead of some extended frame behind the axle to make room for a Smart or other toys and correct steer axle weight problems.

Boy is this ever going to start some discussions.....

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Its a Volvo VNL6_T630.

 

The placement of the 5th wheel looks like the only problem I have with it. Since you can't put an ET or trailer saver over the axle, that's probably the original commercial 5th wheel plate. I would defiantly want to use a suspended hitch, which means it would have to be slightly behind the axle.

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Its a Volvo VNL6_T630.

 

The placement of the 5th wheel looks like the only problem I have with it. Since you can't put an ET or trailer saver over the axle, that's probably the original commercial 5th wheel plate. I would defiantly want to use a suspended hitch, which means it would have to be slightly behind the axle.

We have a Trailer Saver over our axle.

1998 Volvo 610

 

I really want to keep our truck short, so we have plans for a 47' Toy hauler..... it's huge but will keep our overall length within reason.

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Its a Volvo VNL6_T630.

 

The placement of the 5th wheel looks like the only problem I have with it. Since you can't put an ET or trailer saver over the axle, that's probably the original commercial 5th wheel plate. I would defiantly want to use a suspended hitch, which means it would have to be slightly behind the axle.

 

IIRC it belonged to a couple who had it for sale last year. It had an RV hitch, but it was non-airbag so he mounted it on the frame.

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I like rick's thoughts on a 48 or 53' trailer/toyhauler on 22.5 rubber, would it need to be tandem axle with the standard 20k semi trailer axles? Maybe a single axle moved forward enough for the garage behind the axle with a lower floor in a stacker garage. I'd also consider moving the 5th pin back under the nose of the trailer "European style". If the trailer was purpose built with air ride for use with a HDT would a suspension hitch be necessary or would a commercial 5th hitch be sufficient?

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Here is your rig.

Space Craft built it, 52' with 12' of it being a stacker garage. It was for sale at $225k

 

Perfect, that solves the dilema of RZR vs Jeep! Take them both! Now to dig up that 225K! I don't know that I had ever seen my dream rig yet, but that quite possibly could be it!

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I found a trailer a few years ago that was close to being my dream. 48' spread axle with stacker in the rear, newly re-modeled, and nicely finished. Very reasonably priced at well under $100k. Couldn't get my bride to go for it, besides being over length for RV in most states.

 

There are occasionally some very interesting units on Racing Junk.

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Rick;

Lack of creative thinking bud. All you need is a removable corn crib that fits the stacker area and you're golden...(not counting the legal issues, insurance issues, heavy equipment to swap the crib in and out, and...and,,,and,,,)

 

Merry Christmas

 

Paul & Paula

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I'' bite. Jeff! I've run my HDT/5r setup both ways--commercial hitch "where it belongs" over the axle, and a setback air hitch. Not for toys, just wanted it back. I also have a full semi/hopper bottom setup. And as a farmer drive all kinds of stuff.

 

There is no question which setup is easiest to back up. Its the semi with the wheels at the tail of the trailer. Just have a big enough area to start the trailer moving toward where you want it. There is also no question in my mind which way the 5R works best...hitch at the tail. Why? Having the wheels near the middle of the 5r, the hitch at the tail makes it way easier to "Steer" the trailer in limited space. When I switched, the difference was huge. BUt then, I'm ised to tractors with the hitch point behind the tires..so maybe I'm biased?

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That's how my truck is setup. 630, singled short, with the ET hitch right behind the axle. Keeps the truck as short as possible to maximize maneuverability.

 

 

 

This is exactly what I would like to replicate. VNL630, singled short with an air ride hitch as tight behind the axle as possible.

 

Now, to just find the truck...

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I had a 610 with 172" wb and the Trailersaver hitch was relocatable - either 2' behind the axle centerline, or 4' behind. I ran it typically 2' back, since I was not carrying deck cargo with that rig. The 4' position was for a motorcycle. Even with the 2' shift, there was a HUGE and noticable difference in parking ability (with the trailer).

 

BTW, that truck served as a daily driver for over three years...we had no other vehicle. It was superb. If it had a iShift in it, it would have been perfect as a daily driver. Really, it was not any different than my F550 - except it TURNED so much better.

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