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3 pedal smart? No such animal. The old, and really old body style (451 & 450) are flat-towable. The new supersized model isn't.

Yes sir, there is a 3-pedal. I've seen one in person. Scroll down to the transmission option, and you see 2 varieties...the Twinamic 6-speed, and a 5-speed manual.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_Fortwo

 

http://int.smart.com/en/en/index/smart-fortwo-forfour-453/gearshift.html

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So a 2015 2 pedal 5 speed is NOT 4 down towable?

From what I can see, the 5-speed manual should be safe to tow 4-down. The automated 6-speed is not. I've already heard accounts of where that was tried, and the tranny (Twinamic) was destroyed beyond repair. The 5-speed is a 3-pedal standard manual.

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I posted a response to this earlier elsewhere. 2016 can be towed 4 down. The 2017 cannot absolutely not be towed 4 down. Any doubt, contact Greg in the Service Department at Three Point Motors in Victoria. I have the first one out of the box and have been warned. I have also seen firsthand the one that an RVer bought and did tow 4 down. The transmission is toast, dead. 2 other transmissions have been hooked up but they can't get the car to talk to the trans yet.

 

Tow it and you may as well write it off.

 

The car was bought back by Three Point and the very annoyed customer went elsewhere. If you want a picture of the car I can probably get it.

 

My understanding is the 'no tow 4 down' info was not widely distributed. The disaster that beset this RV er is how Three Point found out.

 

Victoria is fortunate to have Canada's # 1 Smart Car dealer.

 

Also a hitch can be fabricated to fit the 2017's. Mine is rock solid and comes out of the middle of the bumper and at 18" above the ground. My understanding is everything is bolt on. This for those who want to winch on the car or carry a bike rack or pull a small trailer.

 

Jack is correct, the car has lots of power to climb the ramps, but not all may want to do so.

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I did some more digging, and found a thread pertaining to the discussion. As of the date of the thread, the short version was, if you travel more than 30 miles and more than 30 mph with any 453, you voided the warranty. This was a detail I did not know previously...

 

http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/forums/f417/453-dct-flat-towable-no-102930/

 

More digging in the same forum came up with the following...and my beliefs were upended again...

 

http://www.smartcarofamerica.com/forums/f208/453-official-flat-tow-instructions-126097/

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I posted a response to this earlier elsewhere. 2016 can be towed 4 down. The 2017 cannot absolutely not be towed 4 down. Any doubt, contact Greg in the Service Department at Three Point Motors in Victoria. I have the first one out of the box and have been warned. I have also seen firsthand the one that an RVer bought and did tow 4 down. The transmission is toast, dead. 2 other transmissions have been hooked up but they can't get the car to talk to the trans yet.

 

Tow it and you may as well write it off.

 

The car was bought back by Three Point and the very annoyed customer went elsewhere. If you want a picture of the car I can probably get it.

 

My understanding is the 'no tow 4 down' info was not widely distributed. The disaster that beset this RV er is how Three Point found out.

 

Victoria is fortunate to have Canada's # 1 Smart Car dealer.

 

Also a hitch can be fabricated to fit the 2017's. Mine is rock solid and comes out of the middle of the bumper and at 18" above the ground. My understanding is everything is bolt on. This for those who want to winch on the car or carry a bike rack or pull a small trailer.

 

Jack is correct, the car has lots of power to climb the ramps, but not all may want to do so.

Thanks Roger, The car I pulled up and we have looked at is below NADA , was a trade in for a 2017 model, and still has the new car "Smell". Mercedes did all the maintenance/oil changes as well.

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Jim--

 

My parents tow theirs just fine, and I've already done the hard part for you as far as wiring. They have the most convoluted way of doing combined brake and turn signals, but it's really easy to hook up to once you know where to do it. Here's the link: http://rvnerds.com/2016/06/20/wiring-a-us-spec-smart-fortwo-451-for-flat-towing/

 

As far as getting the car ready to go, it's key on, shift to neutral, key off and wait for display to shut off. There's no steering column lock to worry about, so no need for the key to be in the car or to do anything to keep the battery from going dead.

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A&J, no problem, I should specify "2017 no tow" is for automatics. No knowledge on towing standards. My guess is if you mess with wiring, warranty would be voided.

Someone will tow it, whether we hear about it or not is a different matter.

 

When I was told by both Service and Parts bosses at TPM, it wasn't so much what they said or how they said it but the looks in their eyes that told the tale. I saw the car up close, it looked very sad. It's mothballed in storage, I believe.

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Smart cars have their own engine right? you don't pedal them ...

 

Signed,

 

NotSmart about Smarts

Haha...funny stuff. Reminds me of being asked if it's electric...while the fuel nozzle is in at the gas station... The answer..."Yeah...I just put in $15 worth of electricity"...

 

Back to the topic at hand for a moment...I was totally surprised to find out that smart is publishing the towing mode for the dual-clutch model and NOT endorsing towability for the fully manual car. If I could get my phone to copy and paste out of the PDF I would have put the text in the body of the previous post where I put the link.

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