Slinging iron

[runaway parents]

First snow of the season and were putting chains on in town oh what fun. Took wife to work didn't think it was that slick. As the sun came up temp dropped froze up every thing .Coming up the hill ran across two tractor trailers spun out. One was ok it looked like he new what he was doing. The other needed help He did not have a clue. He had new chains but didn't know how to install them.So I helped get them installed and first thing he dose is punch the throttle threw the floor board spinning the tires he didn't have any bungee cords to tighten them with so the end result was throwing one of the chains off .guess what we started all over again. Got him chained up and i told him to go easy and off he went.. The point I was trying to make was. Out in the middle of the road is not a good place to learn how to install chains. Take the time on a sun shiny day and pull those chains out and learn how to install them. Do not wait till your spun out blocking traffic best to learn when it is worm in a safe place. Putting chains on in the middle of the road is very Dangerous!! The faster you can sling them on the safer you will be. Less time exposed to the other crazy drivers that are trying to get around you. Be safe out there it is just the beginning of more fun to come!!!

[SuiteSuccess]

First snow of the season and were putting chains on in town oh what fun. Took wife to work didn't think it was that slick. As the sun came up temp dropped froze up every thing .Coming up the hill ran across two tractor trailers spun out. One was ok it looked like he new what he was doing. The other needed help He did not have a clue. He had new chains but didn't know how to install them.So I helped get them installed and first thing he dose is punch the throttle threw the floor board spinning the tires he didn't have any bungee cords to tighten them with so the end result was throwing one of the chains off .guess what we started all over again. Got him chained up and i told him to go easy and off he went.. The point I was trying to make was. Out in the middle of the road is not a good place to learn how to install chains. Take the time on a sun shiny day and pull those chains out and learn how to install them. Do not wait till your spun out blocking traffic best to learn when it is worm in a safe place. Putting chains on in the middle of the road is very Dangerous!! The faster you can sling them on the safer you will be. Less time exposed to the other crazy drivers that are trying to get around you. Be safe out there it is just the beginning of more fun to come!!!

Not that I ever intend to do it but what is the proper way?

[runaway parents]

Don't put them on inside out .Cross links and ice cleats should be pointed out not towards the tire. If put on inside out they will eat holes in the tires . Best to lay them out to make sure no twisted or tangled cross links once you are satisfied there are no twist or tangles pick up in middle and drape them on the tire .Back truck up onto the chains. just far enough (about 12inches)don't go to far that the chains fall off back of tire. PUT TRUCK IN NUTRIAL AND PARKING BRAKE ON. Reach in hook inside chain together pull outside and hook it together. Now with this done go to the back rear end side of the tire and work all of the loose cross links and loose chain towards the hooks. Readjust hooks by tightening them link buy link .Get them as tight as you can. Then put on bungee cords .These go on the out side of tire chain in a triangular pattern this will take the rest of the slack out of the chains. if you have any loose links or broke cross links tie wire them up so they don't beet the heck out of truck .If chains are smacking finder wells . Stop tight them up check for broke crosslinks if you have one tie it up with tie wire. If this don't stop it (the smacking) SLOW DOWN.

This is the old school way of doing this there are all sorts of chain systems out there camlock, cable chains snow sock. Practice get them out and get to know those chains. Best be prepared Be safe out there.

[SuiteSuccess]

Don't put them on inside out .Cross links and ice cleats should be pointed out not towards the tire. If put on inside out they will eat holes in the tires . Best to lay them out to make sure no twisted or tangled cross links once you are satisfied there are no twist or tangles pick up in middle and drape them on the tire .Back truck up onto the chains. just far enough (about 12inches)don't go to far that the chains fall off back of tire. PUT TRUCK IN NUTRIAL AND PARKING BRAKE ON. Reach in hook inside chain together pull outside and hook it together. Now with this done go to the back rear end side of the tire and work all of the loose cross links and loose chain towards the hooks. Readjust hooks by tightening them link buy link .Get them as tight as you can. Then put on bungee cords .These go on the out side of tire chain in a triangular pattern this will take the rest of the slack out of the chains. if you have any loose links or broke cross links tie wire them up so they don't beet the heck out of truck .If chains are smacking finder wells . Stop tight them up check for broke crosslinks if you have one tie it up with tie wire. If this don't stop it (the smacking) SLOW DOWN.

This is the old school way of doing this there are all sorts of chain systems out there camlock, cable chains snow sock. Practice get them out and get to know those chains. Best be prepared Be safe out there.

Thanks

[Dollytrolley]

Don't put them on inside out .Cross links and ice cleats should be pointed out not towards the tire. If put on inside out they will eat holes in the tires . Best to lay them out to make sure no twisted or tangled cross links once you are satisfied there are no twist or tangles pick up in middle and drape them on the tire .Back truck up onto the chains. just far enough (about 12inches)don't go to far that the chains fall off back of tire. PUT TRUCK IN NUTRIAL AND PARKING BRAKE ON. Reach in hook inside chain together pull outside and hook it together. Now with this done go to the back rear end side of the tire and work all of the loose cross links and loose chain towards the hooks. Readjust hooks by tightening them link buy link .Get them as tight as you can. Then put on bungee cords .These go on the out side of tire chain in a triangular pattern this will take the rest of the slack out of the chains. if you have any loose links or broke cross links tie wire them up so they don't beet the heck out of truck .If chains are smacking finder wells . Stop tight them up check for broke crosslinks if you have one tie it up with tie wire. If this don't stop it (the smacking) SLOW DOWN.

This is the old school way of doing this there are all sorts of chain systems out there camlock, cable chains snow sock. Practice get them out and get to know those chains. Best be prepared Be safe out there.

Pretty good description of chaining up....

 

When I was a child-slave in the stone age Grumps would drop me off in knee deep snow out in the middle of nowhere in the woods and I would get kid-rich chaining and unchaining log trucks for the high priced sum of 25 cents per axle....I was likely richer than Trump back then....

 

Like a lot of things in life you can get too much of a good thing including chaining up for big bucks..... one evening ad the last truck was stopping to unchain Walt the driver said hop in for the ride into town.....I said oh shucks I'll wait for Chick (The jammer (log loader operator)) and I will get my last two bits of cash for the day.....well greed has a high price.... Chick bypassed me with a shortcut spur road to town and when I did not show for late dinner mom was concerned so she called Chicks wife and found out I was still out in the woods in a dark raging blizzard....

 

Grumps was already in bed and told mom....spending the night out in woods will be a good lesson that you need to pay attention and not get too greedy...AND.

...if I get back out of bed and drive the crummy (logger slang for suburban) out to pick up Einstein (his nickname for me) just who would chain up the crummy for the trip out.....

 

Grumps went to sleep.....and I pitched a camp of sorts and poached a couple cutthroats out of Cultas river and Fried them on a old fire shovel over a nice bonfire and settled in for a overnight camp out.....

 

I KNEW Grumps was not getting out of bed to come get me AND I knew it was my fault I was spending the night so....just make the best of it.....AND look at the bright side....I would be right there when the first truck arrived in the morning to start making my big time 25 cents per axle ....greed has no limits....I should have became a investment banker....

 

I suppose if you left your kid out in the woods in a blizzard over night you might get in some trouble.....pitty .....might do some punks good......but maybe they would just freeze.....

 

We "abused" kids had no smart phones but we some how got by ......

 

Drive on .....(get Trump rich with tire chains)

[runaway parents]

Thanks for the compliment .I shook cigarette butts out of pop bottles to make extra cash when I was a kid . We returned them (the pop bottles) to the corner store .sometimes had enough to go to the drive in on saturday night after we got our chores done around the farm.

[rickeieio]

Well, since we're so far off track, I'll throw out another story..................

 

We picked up pop bottles for spending money too. After I'd graduated to hard labor on the farm, little brother took over the road clean-up duties, and had amassed a rather large stash of bottles. He bugged Dad constantly, wanting him to haul him and his bottles to the store so he could trade them for a full bottle and some bubble gum. Dad told him to count the bottles and he'd pay him on the spot, and haul 'em in later. L'il brother was happy as a clam, until a few days later, the price for bottles went fron 2 cents to a nickel. He still swears Dad knew the price was going up.............

[Dollytrolley]

Well, since we're so far off track, I'll throw out another story..................

 

We picked up pop bottles for spending money too. After I'd graduated to hard labor on the farm, little brother took over the road clean-up duties, and had amassed a rather large stash of bottles. He bugged Dad constantly, wanting him to haul him and his bottles to the store so he could trade them for a full bottle and some bubble gum. Dad told him to count the bottles and he'd pay him on the spot, and haul 'em in later. L'il brother was happy as a clam, until a few days later, the price for bottles went fron 2 cents to a nickel. He still swears Dad knew the price was going up.............

Sounds like dad might have been a investment banker before he was a farmer....

 

Drive on....(what's the spot price for pop bottles.. . TODAY?)

[runaway parents]

What great story's Thanks yup the train went definitely off the track. .Ha suffering from cabin fever and a lot of hitch ich and winter has just begun .Expecting 6 inches of snow by this weekend.

[StubbleJumper]

The truck drivers use to give me dirty looks whenever I would jack my crane up using the outriggers, then throw my chains. Made it way nicer haha

[Dollytrolley]

What great story's Thanks yup the train went definitely off the track. .Ha suffering from cabin fever and a lot of hitch ich and winter has just begun .Expecting 6 inches of snow by this weekend.

Hey Runaway..... anytime a thread has snow in it the thread often skids off in different directions.....many geezers are allergic to ....cold slick white stuff on the ground..... no snow in Death Valley yet but look up in the hills and some of the have some white on them.

 

Drive on....(avoid the chain up zone)

[Buscrusher]

The truck drivers use to give me dirty looks whenever I would jack my crane up using the outriggers, then throw my chains. Made it way nicer haha

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall someone on the board here putting Bigfoot levelers on their truck so they could do the same thing...

[rickeieio]

Ms. Chrissi has them.

[StarDreamers.us]

WOW! How things have changed. Perhaps today someone would call child welfare to object. But, many of us learned responsibility and work skills that helped our generation to produce so much for this GREAT COUNTRY! Just look at the wimps marching in the streets demanding more FREE STUFF!

 

Safe Travels!

[Dollytrolley]

WOW! How things have changed. Perhaps today someone would call child welfare to object. But, many of us learned responsibility and work skills that helped our generation to produce so much for this GREAT COUNTRY! Just look at the wimps marching in the streets demanding more FREE STUFF!

 

Safe Travels!

Star, I suppose if we look back some it's pretty scary how much things have changed in a short period.....

 

Interesting to suppose what might have happened IF someone might have called in child abuse when I was camping out in the blizzard.....humm...

 

I suppose that the call would go to the local "first responders" and my locker mate in highschool was the son of the chief of police so..... the chief would ask his son Eric about me.... Eric would say don't give it a thought about going out in the storm to get the kid....you would likely find him eating some kind of poached game and then you would arrest him and then he would being mowing the courthouse lawn for free for paying off his fine and I would lose my pay for mowing the lawn. Everyone knew Grumps would never let me out in the woods without matches, knife, and clothes suitable for extended stay in the woods....and of course the chief knew that any local kid could find plenty of food out in the woods.

 

So I guess the folks in the stone age in charge of child abuse investigations seemed to have more advanced methods to investigate abuse....just ask the locker mate...

 

Grumps used to say"pay attention...you'll know when it's time to check out".

 

Know a scary thought....imagine grumps is up and kicking today and the long of the law throws him jail for "child abuse" (I earned most of the "abuse") so.... imagine poor Charlie Manson cowering in the corner of the jail cell after Grumps teaches him some manners.....now that's abuse...

 

Farming, ranching, logging, trucking, and blue collar work tends to involve some sort of "abuse" just to get the job along so it's just the way it works.

 

For the most part we kids were pretty lucky in that our "abuse" had benefits that served us well in life.

 

Not too sure that many of the "smart phone kids" would be able chain up a truck but with a good internet connection you could be assured they would do just fine clamping out over night in a blizzard....oh ya...

 

Drive on....(chain up without... abuse)

[RickW]

As cruel and unfair as it feels as a child laborer, the lessons and values it sets you up with as an adult is priceless.

 

In my case, my father after a short period of unemployment decided it was time to diversify his income streams. He started a small janitorial service that he did in the evenings after working his daytime job. As he picked up more clients and he needed help, here is where you enter the child labor. So while my friends spent their evenings watching TV and doing their homework, I was out working. I learned quickly that I had a choice, I could be up all night doing homework after I got home from work. Because I had no choice. I was doing both. So time management was instilled at a very early age. The upside was payday was the following morning. By the time I made it to the table for breakfast, dad was already out the door and off to his daytime job, but before he left each morning he would leave lunch money and the previous nights (tax free - another lesson driven home when I paid payroll taxes for the first time) pay on the table. In Jr. High, I think I was the only kid in school who always had a few bucks in his pocket and I did not have to beg, plead or borrow for it.

 

By High school the "greed" was kicking in. Cleaning offices in the evening was not cool and cutting in to my social life. I quickly figured out lawn work around the house is a chore but doing lawn work for somebody else can be lucrative. Especially living in suburbia. Just because I am not working as much with/for Dad does not mean he is done teaching. Next thing I learned is when you borrow tools/equipment from somebody do not expect them to replace them when you wear them out. So after buying a cheaper mower with my hard work, I learned the difference between cheap and quality equipment. As I was proving I was responsible on my own for getting the work done and hustling up more work, Dad decided it was time to start tackling larger jobs. He expanded his services to the lawn care option for some of his clients. But wait, I don't get what he bills the customer, I am a sub contractor working for him, not directly for the end customer. By this point I realized I had too much work to do by myself so I have hired a buddy to work with me. Now the 2 of us could do a job in about 1/3 the time it took me to do alone. So keep hustling up more work and now making more money with less hours worked. Up to this point Dad was teaching but pointing out what was next and having me figure out how to do it. Now Dad lands a business that he already cleans but nows needs lawn care. Dad knows it will take the two of us almost all day with push mowers to mow this place. Then have to do it again the following week, all summer. I needed a riding mower now. Finally I approach the subject with Dad. Which he follows up with, "What took you so long?" (aka work smarter not harder). Next lesson: Bank of Dad. Bank of Dad had great rates at 0%, but the loan officer required business plan, including contingencies and a payment schedule. After making me sweat it out a little and it feeling like loan approval was my finger tips ..... the subject of a down payment is brought up. A what? I quickly learn you do not let it be known exactly how much you have squirreled away. It just so happened to be the down payment was exactly that amount, down to the penny.

 

So at age 14 I am too young to legally drive a car but I do have loan payments on a riding mower that I can drive around. Do you know how much gas one of those things burn? Learned that too. While the loan officer at the Bank of Dad was pretty cool, I mean he gave me money to expand my enterprise after all. Even with no credit. But the Bank of Dad was not a one man operation. Bank of Dad also had a collections officer (aka Mom). Collections was just a friendly as loans, as long as I was making the payment on time. But collections quickly became unfriendly when I was not following the terms of the loan I agreed to. The terms where that payments were due each Monday at dinner time. Dinner means the entire family at the table. No TV, if the phone rings, well they will call back if it is important. The door bell rings, we would answer it but if it was a friend you will just have to track them down later. You are only excused from dinner when the kitchen officially closes. The kitchen does not officially close until everything is cleaned and put away. The kitchen reopens the next day at breakfast. No exceptions. So a few weeks in to this loan, I have payment but it is left on my dresser. Only a short walk from the dinner table down the hall. Well the collections officer starts in on the difference between on-time and late. While it would only take me 15 seconds to retrieve the cash and make the payment and shut the collections officer up (the loan officer is chiming in too) it is painfully clear I was not going to be excused so that I could make this end. Even tried to sneak off while cleaning the kitchen and was quickly asked where I thought I was going. A few weeks go by and payments are on time. Learned my lesson, right? Not quite. I think Mom saw the payment sitting on my dresser earlier. Typically payment was officially made at some point thru the course of dinner. But as soon as my butt hits the chair and dinner officially starts, I get hit with "Where's my money?". This is before food has hit my plate. Well collections has a lot of different tactics. I would only get to eat after making payment. Now I learn what a catch 22 is. I am not going to be excused until after dinner and the kitchen is closed. At 14 a boy just does not miss a meal and watching the rest of the eat is a great tool to drive home a lesson. And just because you are not eating don't think that is an excuse that gets you out of participating in conversations. Learned many years prior the ramifications of not participating in the conversations or participating with an attitude. Not making that mistake again. My sister on the other hand was a little slow learning that particular lesson.

 

Dad also taught me how to be a smart a$$ (I had a pretty good head start on my own). So the following payment due date it was lesson learned. I had payment sitting on the table even before the table was completely set. As usual I was one of the first to have my tail end planted in a chair. Like I said, I was 14, I never had to be called for dinner twice. Most of the time you did not even have to call as I was already there. Mom sits down next me and says something along the lines of that it looks like I learned the value of making payments on time. She starts to reach for the cash and I place my hand on top of the cash with me telling her my payment is not late as dinner has not begun yet. I hear a gasp from my sister. My Dad still has his head in the fridge but is clearly having trouble containing himself from the laughter. Took him a long time to find that beer. As my short life is now flashing before my eyes and I envision my head and body no longer being a singular unit, much to my surprise she is trying hard not to crack a smile. Another proud but pissed moment. Living in a house of smart a$$es, the jab was respected but still came with some lumps. I paid for it. I am sure Dad paid for it too.

 

The life lessons learned from being a former child laborer are endless but I think we talking about slinging tire chains, right? .... squirrel .....

[Alie&Jim's Carrilite]

Let's see.... Child Labor

Cut and split wood all summer... or all year. What would child services think about a 10yr old with 2 splitting wedges and a10lb sledge hammer? (you only miss 1 swing)

Working step-grandfathers saw mill.... This beast was right out of the Sears Robuck catalog era 1946-47. Still in operation today too.

Working with stepfather building houses- yard cleanup, etc... Thankfully this was only when he was home... career marine with 28yrs in.

Having family and step-family with farms meant that your chores were never done and you never got paid $$, only food on the table and clothe on your back.

[SuiteSuccess]

Rick,

 

One of the best stories I've read in a long time. We just don't see that much in families anymore. Most kids eat dinner with their iPads or phones in immediate reach. Like you, the evening meal at our house was sacrosanct and you didn't violate it.

[jkennell]

From the other end, Its often hard to deal with children who have totally different talents and interests. Growing up--the bus pulled up and within 5 minutes I was changed and out to the shed to work on machinery or help with the farm work. My kids...well...I originally thought they were lazy. I admit there was quite a few "discussions" about how they never showed up to help. Then I realized a 15yo who gets up at 6am, has her schoolwork done by 10am, and spends 12 hours a day learning to run Photoshop isn't exactly lazy. Not one of the 5 has the slightest interest in "physical labor" (although they stacked plenty of bales!). So far I got a Graphic Artist, a Policewoman, a son who is aiming for a doctorate in Linguistics...all three with 3.95+ GPAs. We shall see on the younger 2! So I'm proud of them...and prepared to fix their cars and apartment appliances for the rest of my working life....

[RandyA]

Mowed lawns - no rider or self propelled mower. Pushed a second hand 22" 2-stroke Sears mower that belched white smoke. Trimmed with hand clipper shears - no string trimmer. Edged sidewalks with a square nose spade - no gas powered edger. Swept sidewalk with a broom - no gas powered blower. BIG lawn down the street with all the trimmings was $5. Regular lawn was $2

 

Baby (?) sitting - $.25 per hour plus cookies and milk.

 

Paper Route - Collected $.35 a week by knocking on customer doors. Got to keep $.10. 50 customers - profit $5.00 a week if every customer paid on time. Walked route, placed papers on porch or behind screen door.

 

Delivered prescriptions for local drug store on my Cushman Eagle motor scooter. Could make $3 to $4 a day before gas which was $.32 a gallon (Gulf Crest 104 Octane). Had fun riding and got paid too - best job ever for a 14 year old kid.

 

Shoveled snow. Average sidewalk might get me $1 including a $.25 tip. Driveway was more - maybe $2. No snow blower or plow - just a coal shovel.

 

Wash car. $.50 - including scrubbing white wall tires with SOS pad.

 

Allowance (when I got it) - $.50 a week. Had to mow our yard, shovel snow, wash car, do supper dishes, clean room, sweep porch.

 

Usher at local movie theater. $.50 hour. After taxes and SS cleared $19.62 a week (This was 1962)

 

Never chained a truck but put them on and off the family Studebaker many a time. No pay for that.

[Dollytrolley]

From the other end, Its often hard to deal with children who have totally different talents and interests. Growing up--the bus pulled up and within 5 minutes I was changed and out to the shed to work on machinery or help with the farm work. My kids...well...I originally thought they were lazy. I admit there was quite a few "discussions" about how they never showed up to help. Then I realized a 15yo who gets up at 6am, has her schoolwork done by 10am, and spends 12 hours a day learning to run Photoshop isn't exactly lazy. Not one of the 5 has the slightest interest in "physical labor" (although they stacked plenty of bales!). So far I got a Graphic Artist, a Policewoman, a son who is aiming for a doctorate in Linguistics...all three with 3.95+ GPAs. We shall see on the younger 2! So I'm proud of them...and prepared to fix their cars and apartment appliances for the rest of my working life....

Jeff you do bring up a good set of points and times have changed for kids ....a lot.

 

Sadly some of our local "child abuse" had poor outcomes....

 

I was 16 and had a part time gig "bumping knots" at the log landings, ("bumping knots" is logger slang for chain sawing limbs off logs prior to loading the logs on a truck). Grumps could be pretty grumpy about who I hitched rides with to and from the woods....

 

One hot shot "kid" had a daddy that owned a fair size fleet of trucks and the "kid" was issued a Really nice KW and he drove it pretty fast and hard....Grumps made it Known that I would NOT be allowed to hitch a ride in that truck Period.

 

So...it was late Friday afternoon and I had all of the knots bumped on the landing and I had plans in town and.....the "kid" was the last truck to get loaded.... I sneaked over and ask the"kid" for a ride into town and he grinned and said sure thing.

 

So Chick the Grumpy OLD log jammer (log loader) came up in the fire truck from a lower landing just as the second string jammer was slinging the last couple of logs on the truck. I was about to climb into the passenger seat when Old Chick appeared out of nowhere and in no uncertain terms put the kibosh on my hitched fast ride to town....I KNEW better than to try to argue with a Grumpy old geezer-friend of Grumps so I slinked over and help throw the wrappers on the kids log load and the "kid" yelled hop aboard we'll kick the old KW in the a$$ hard and will be in town in record time....Oh go ahead I need to help Chick with some things to do to the jammer.

 

So....what happened next has been seared in my tiny mind all my life....

 

The "kid" jumped in the KW ,released the park brake and actually powered DOWN a fairly steep grade to a "S-turns" but the truck failed to take the turn instead it climbed UP the steep up mountain shoulder and then started rolling over just as it headed over the side of a 45 degree downslope on the second turn of the s and then as it plunged over the bank the front of the truck became airborne until it landed front bumper first into a huge doug fir stump....the truck humped to a immediate stop but the logs kept charging forward and sheared the cab and engine right off the frame and the mess just tumbled end over end down the mountain...

 

I was stunned.... Chick walked over and told me to get in his pickup ....I said no I got to go down and see if I can help...Chick shook his head and led me over to the pickup and we drove up the mountain to a point where Chick had radio coverage and ask the office to send out the undertaker and sheriff deputy.

 

You see in the rush to get kid-rich the "kid" forgot to pull the pin out of the compensating reach of the log trailer and so when the loaded truck reached the first corner of the S-turns the logs prevented the truck from being able to be turned and the kids fate was sealed.

 

I was pretty much in shock on the way to town and Chick only said a couple things but the thing that stuck was that logging is a tough game and if you do not listen the the grumpy old guys you will likely not live long enough to get grumpy...

 

Of course today if you tried to take a kid out to a active log landing you would get throwed in a cell with Charlie Manson...but kids on the farm can still get wacked pretty badly even with today's labor regs.

 

Grumps was not formally educated past highschool but he was educated enough in a dangerous game to live to a ripe old age...

 

Now it is my turn....

 

Drive on.....(pay attention....some things matter)

[Imurphy907]

I have chained my truck quite a bit. But living in Alaska we dont stop in the winter. I have been looking at a set of On Spot chains thou. It would prevent 90% of my needs, as most of the time its just a short hill climb or parking lot that I need them. The Deep stuff i would still chain up thou. It does not help that the rear end is so dang light. Thinking when I build the bed it needs to have a rack to hand some tractor weights for better traction.

[noteven]

Chained up KW's: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4_diP1tLno

[Heavymetal]

Well, since we're so far off track, I'll throw out another story..................

 

We picked up pop bottles for spending money too. After I'd graduated to hard labor on the farm, little brother took over the road clean-up duties, and had amassed a rather large stash of bottles. He bugged Dad constantly, wanting him to haul him and his bottles to the store so he could trade them for a full bottle and some bubble gum. Dad told him to count the bottles and he'd pay him on the spot, and haul 'em in later. L'il brother was happy as a clam, until a few days later, the price for bottles went fron 2 cents to a nickel. He still swears Dad knew the price was going up.............

Soda pop tasted better when in glass bottles and made with sugar, not corn syrup, I also enjoyed it when milk was in the big gallon glass bottles. It always seemed to a lot colder when coming from a glass bottle.