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Had my first successful load yesterday with the motorcycle loader. Maybe the link will work and maybe not. Let me know.

 

Anyway, the winch I used is from my "Rampage" motorcycle lift I had on the back of the truck. It came with a 2 inch flat strap that is about 20 foot long. I'd like to have 25' but don't think it will fit on the spool. The winch is a Warn 2000 and it works very well. Am thinking of changing over to a cable to give me more length. Am I correct in my thoughts that cable will take up less room then the flat strap?

 

What is the best source for cable? Should I go with steel or synthetic? The winch is inside and protected, but there will be days that I will have to load in the rain. I know only about the cable from a tow truck I had for a few years. Never concerned about it breaking and it never did. I was young and probably very lucky. It was exposed to all the elements winter and summer.

 

 

The video link above.

 

Rod

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Quick question. Is that a CT on the back? I use a CT on my HD, I just love it.

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Good eye. Yes I have been a Dark Side member for several years now. Have the "Taxi Tire" on the back of my 1995 GL 1500 and the Michelin on the FJR. Guess the video worked. Thanks for your comment.

 

Rod

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Herrin put a 2 ton Warn with Kevlar cable on my 730. Diameter of cable is about 1/4", length about 25 > 30' and still have several turns on the drum after going thru the A frame and back down to the winch. The winch is more than adequate even single pull. I clip a snatch block on the rear of the car and double the pull and halve the speed.

 

It came with a wireless remote in addition to the hardwired remote and the switch in the winch compartment. Keep an extra set of batteries on hand.

 

Roger

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I think mine is just a single ton (Warn 2000) Plenty for my motorcycle. Won't try to pull the truck anywhere with it though. Mine is an older model I think. the wired control is almost long enough. I think I can move it and maybe extend the reach just enough.

 

Thanks for the reply.

 

Rod

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Rod, I went with synthetic. It is easier to handle (no burrs) and it doesn't kink or crimp like steel cable making proper winding on the spool unnecessary. Since I sit in the car as I winch it is impossible to guide the cable onto the spool.

Since I don't winch in the dirt and mud, that isn't an issue. Also synthetic doesn't turn into the projectile that steel does if it does happen to break.

Size for size synthetic is as strong as steel and I have heard it is 7 times lighter (if weight is an issue). It also supposedly lasts longer.

I went with AmSteel-Blue...cuz it comes in half a dozen or so colors :) Had to have a red cable for my red truck, right?

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I switched from wire cable to synthetic winch line and am pleased with the performance. Synthetic line does need to be protected from sunlight as much as possible. UV rays can shorten the service life considerably. The synthetic line is small enough that I have to make sure that it is on the pulley of my snatch block....it can squeeze between the pulley and the side plate if I don't take up the line slack before initiating the pull. Be safe, Charlie

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Rod, I went with synthetic. It is easier to handle (no burrs) and it doesn't kink or crimp like steel cable making proper winding on the spool unnecessary. Since I sit in the car as I winch it is impossible to guide the cable onto the spool.

Since I don't winch in the dirt and mud, that isn't an issue. Also synthetic doesn't turn into the projectile that steel does if it does happen to break.

Size for size synthetic is as strong as steel and I have heard it is 7 times lighter (if weight is an issue). It also supposedly lasts longer.

I went with AmSteel-Blue...cuz it comes in half a dozen or so colors :) Had to have a red cable for my red truck, right?

 

Some years ago I found myself "roped" into couple years of managing a specialized Marine / Barge / Tug company that worked large hydro dam rework on the Columbia River.

 

We utilized AmSteel Blue lines up to 1,000 tons capacity and with several thousand HP tugs towing several thousand ton barges and cranes we really worked these lines hard. We never lost a tow however we did once break one 507 ton half of a 1,000 ton tow bridle....the other half of the bridle held the barge swing and no one was injured. The sound of a 500 ton line parting makes a shotgun blast sound a clock tick.

 

We had a barge that had a 3 foot long patch where a 2 1/2 inch steel tow bridle parted and ripped the 1/4 inch hull tank open....syn-rope is by far the safest way to go.

 

Once in a while we would have to cut a some highly loaded lines that would be frozen with water 3 ft in dia......we would use a pair of 880 Stihl chain saws with 4 foot bars to cut through the ice and then part the AmSteel 3 1/2 lines........cutting wire rope is very dangerous .

 

Syn-rope is by far the way to go....

 

Back in the Stone Age I was involved with various hair-no-brain projects to aero-tow various aircraft and then the tow line was sized in such a manner that the line would break before over stressing the tug aircraft or towed aircraft........some days I felt a bit underpaid with a broken tow line and that sinking feeling........oh to be young and dumb.....

 

Drive on.......(stay out of the bite of the ......line)

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Sent an email to the Custom-splice company and hope to call tomorrow to place an order. As you can see there is a flat web strap on there now. The "conversion" chart on the Custom-splice page doesn't show a conversion that I recognize as my winch. Hopefully I can give them enough information to make it happen.

 

Rod

 

While I was posting here I got an answer back from Customsplice. Now, that's service.

 

rl

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  • 1 month later...

Bike is loaded for the trip to Florida next week. Tried to do another video but none of the cameras stayed running for some reason. Worst problem was the Garmin falling about 6 feet to the asphalt and now is not working at all. Very happy with the loading and found a new way to move the ramp around that was a lot easier than carrying it.

 

Have had no problems with the truck starting with all the moves and preparations. Hoping that continues, at least until I get to Florida.

 

Rod

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Do you have any pics or more videos of your garage setup on the back of the truck and the size specs on it? I'd love to see what you came up with?

 

Have you thought about thing pieces of aluminum on the edge of the ramp where the small wheels ride on the chock just for a little quieter operation?

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Just fyi if you need a light duty winch cable harbor freight sells them for like $30 dollars, every store i have ever been to has them in stock. They are all i use on my wagon trailers because compared to the alternatives i found it is very reasonably priced, and can be replaced easily if damaged. the down side is it is made in China.

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