tyates007 Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Just looking for a quick opinion. We were coming home tonight me about a half hour from getting there at a stop light the truck did not want to go into gear. Truck has a super 10 standard transmission. When trying to put into gear it just wanted to grind. My clutch pedal was also much softer. I had a bunch of linkage replaced a few weeks ago due to good old age and rust. I am assuming since truck has not had an issue prior it is probably an adjustment issue vs a broken part. For the rest of the way home I just downshifted and left in gear for stop lights. Thoughts and opinions appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Clutch brake. Either needs adjustment, or parts came out. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Or pilot bearing seized? Hopefully it's something simple. 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Sounds like clutch brake, hopefully you can just readjust it. Make sure your not pushing the peddle all the way down when shifting and only pushing it all the way at a stop long enough to get it into gear then letting it back up half way. If it gets real bad you can turn the truck off and put it in gear then restart the truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 Thanks for the replies. I figured clutch brake as well. Hopefully just an adjustment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 I was told at my last service that 75% of my clutch brake was gone. Don't know how long that last 20 percent will last. I am having no symptoms, but I have an auto shift and only occasionally need to engage the clutch brake. Most of my routes have few stop lights. If I change the clutch brake, a new clutch is going in at the same time along with anything else that requires pulling down the transmission. Only want to have to do that once. Rod White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick & Alana Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 If you do need a clutch brake, a 2 piece clutch brake can be installed without pulling the transmission. Rick and Alana Fulltimers 2018 Newmar Ventana 4037 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1997 Jeep TJ 2009 Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 formerly owned 2000 Volvo 770, 600 Cummins ISX,18 speed autoshift, 14 foot "garage" ET,Jackalopee,MaxBrake,Pressure Pro pro www.rickandalanasgreatadventures.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted July 11, 2016 Report Share Posted July 11, 2016 If you have a hydraulically operated clutch, the master cylinder and or slave cylinder may have a problem. That could be why the clutch felt soft. Check the fluid level in the resivior. Last winter mine was leaking at the slave cylinder. Found a cup seal at Napa for 3 bucks that fit the bore. Rebuilt the slave cylinder and also replaced a pin in the linkage. It was worn down about 1/8" so that had a lot of pedal travel to take up that much plan . Now it works better than all the time we have owned the truck. Hope it is simple, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Talked to Kenworth this morning and they are pretty sure it is a clutch brake as well. Out the door $236. Hope that's the case. That will be the least amount of money I have ever spent at the shop. Guess I'll find out Thursday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Talked to my trusted Mechanic today and he said not to worry. Unless I get stuck in an intersection and the truck won't go in gear, that's when you have a problem. My clutch is hydraulic and I don't engage the clutch brake unless I need to to allow the transmission to fall into gear. It always happens so I won't worry about it for a while yet. Rod White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Talked to Kenworth this morning and they are pretty sure it is a clutch brake as well. Out the door $236. Hope that's the case. That will be the least amount of money I have ever spent at the shop. Guess I'll find out Thursday.jump on that price. Seems to cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 That's what I thought. I scheduled the appointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 Parts will be $236...... labor is Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 That would be a pretty expensive clutch brake. They usually run $30 or so for a 1 piece and $60 for a 2 piece although everything on this Kenworth is way more expensive than my Volvo was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted July 12, 2016 Report Share Posted July 12, 2016 That would be a pretty expensive clutch brake. They usually run $30 or so for a 1 piece and $60 for a 2 piece although everything on this Kenworth is way more expensive than my Volvo was. Try checking at a Pete dealer for your parts. They is often a large difference in prices between them for the same part. You can also go aftermarket for a lot of items. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D Posted July 13, 2016 Report Share Posted July 13, 2016 Try checking at a Pete dealer for your parts. They is often a large difference in prices between them for the same part. I found the same to be the case when I was rigging up my T2000 eight years ago. You'll find, though, that it only works for parts that are common to both makes. A Peterbilt dealer can't buy a Kenworth-only part from Paccar Parts, and vice-versa. Phil 2002 Teton Royal Aspen 2003 Kenworth T2000 - Cat C12 380/430 1450/1650, FreedomLine, 3.36 - TOTO . . . he's not in Kansas anymore. ET Air Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdonlybob Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 If it is your clutch brake, don't panic...just keep the clutch depressed for about ~6 to 8 seconds and it will go into gear....it takes that long to settle the turning shaft to a stop. Also I had trouble with my hydraulic clutch in my 610 Volvo, and it was all in the hydraulic lines.. I would thoroughly check that out first. Good luck, Cheers, Bob 1989 Safari Serengeti 34'Towing a 1952 M38A1 Military Willys Past HDT owner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted July 14, 2016 Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 If it is clutch time, check out my mod before you spring for an "Easy Pedal" 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2016 Thanks for all the help. Dropped truck off last night. Should be done today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 $170 plus tax, new clutch brake with adjustment. Goes into gear really smooth now. There was no old clutch brake. It was missing. Guess that will stay a mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Clutch brake. Either needs adjustment, or parts came out. Not entirely uncommon. Usually won't even give a bang on the way out. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 This one certainly didn't. It worked and then a few hours later did not. What causes them to fall out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Gravity. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted July 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Gravity. Lol. That makes perfect sense. I was thinking more what caused it to come apart off the shaft but you answered what I asked perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted July 15, 2016 Report Share Posted July 15, 2016 Awesome ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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