Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 Might be a bit early to judge Grand Design at the end of the article, but the author nailed the rest. http://rvdailyreport.com/opinion/rv-death-spiral-manufacturers-in-race-to-the-bottom/ Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertraveler Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The article's author either does not know anything about trailers/5th wheels or he is being intentionally deceiving with this statement: "Earlier this year, they discovered that although their RV label says the vehicle is rated to hold 18,000 pounds, the three axles on the rig were rated for 5,200 pounds each. So, in reality, their 18,000-pound RV could only safely hold 15,600 pounds." A pin weight of 20-25% would result in 3600-4500# on the pin and 13,500-14,400# on the axles. Maybe not as much cushion as some may want but within the axles ratings. But then he and the owner/original poster of the "facts" put it on the internet so it must be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mptjelgin Posted July 8, 2016 Report Share Posted July 8, 2016 The article's author either does not know anything about trailers/5th wheels or he is being intentionally deceiving with this statement: "Earlier this year, they discovered that although their RV label says the vehicle is rated to hold 18,000 pounds, the three axles on the rig were rated for 5,200 pounds each. So, in reality, their 18,000-pound RV could only safely hold 15,600 pounds." A pin weight of 20-25% would result in 3600-4500# on the pin and 13,500-14,400# on the axles. Maybe not as much cushion as some may want but within the axles ratings. But then he and the owner/original poster of the "facts" put it on the internet so it must be true. This same issue of incorrect understanding of axle ratings vs. GVWR came up in an earlier article discussed here: http://www.rvnetwork.com/index.php?showtopic=122531&hl= Distressing to see that they are once again presenting the same inaccurate example. This inaccuracy undermines the rest of the article for me. Mark & Teri 2021 Grand Designs Imagine 2500RL, 2019 Ford F-350 Mark & Teri's Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-n-Dennis Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Saw some of the same thing over on Facebook. Coupled with another article I read, I'm beginning to believe the rumor the author does not and has not owned an RV. His information is anecdotal and quite often gleaned by surfing blogs, then cherry picked to meet the theme of the article being written. While I dislike being negative, I have severe heartburn with one sided articles that fail to present the whole story. Worse yet is such bias is coupled with a lack of understanding and the presentation of inaccurate or even purposefully misleading "facts" to bolster the piece. Berkshire XL 40QL Camphosting and touring Our blog: cndtravels.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 Greg Gerber, the author, travels around the country in a Class A. I agree he has an obvious lack of understanding of trailers and axle ratings though. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarDreamers.us Posted July 9, 2016 Report Share Posted July 9, 2016 So many folks on this site with a "treasure chest of knowledge" that they share. Thanks! Safe Travels! SKP #89742 - Lifetime membership - Member of the SKP Class of 2007Good Sam Club - Lifetime MemberDataStorm #5423Passport America - Lifetime MemberSons Of The American Revolution (SAR) - Lifetime MemberAmerican Legion - USAF - Lifetime MemberRotary Club Member - 30 years Escapee CARE Supporter National Wildlife Refuge Volunteer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendsk Posted July 10, 2016 Report Share Posted July 10, 2016 Might be a bit early to judge Grand Design at the end of the article, but the author nailed the rest. http://rvdailyreport.com/opinion/rv-death-spiral-manufacturers-in-race-to-the-bottom/ It's a mildly interesting article. The fact that the author doesn't seem to know anything about RVs isn't important, because the article actually is about the current business climate, not RVs specifically. If you replace every occurrence of 'RV' in the article with 'pickup', 'refrigerator', 'house', 'shower head', 'TV', etc., it would be equally true. The present economic and political climate is not conducive to hard-working honest business folks, it rewards the quick buck, fly-by-night, sharks. There will have to be some pretty severe cultural changes to address the problem. F-250 SCREW 4X4 Gas, 5th NuWa Premier 35FKTG, Full Time, Engineer Ret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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