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Commercial hdt to rv use only title and registration


Lance Williams

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If you check the Resource Guide, you will find that Arizona is one of the states that does not do RV registration of a HDT. Commercial only.

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I life in AZ. And Mark is correct you cannot change registration from HDT to RV here. Best you can do is register as a private truck. Because I have gone through this personally I can tell you the history of all this. Probably write a book for Az. Sorry wish I could be helpful and I sure wish it was possible. Sorry.

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Lance, I.m not fimilar with your state laws but in Va. they are hard to deal with. In order to get around the crazies at DMV I got a truck that was already titled as a Motor Home. I had a copy of the title faxed to me and then took it to DMV. They said they would honor it. They did. I've been towing with it 5 years in May. Maybe they will do the same thing for you. Check it out.

 

 

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My friend has an HDT and he lives in AZ. There was a small window when some were allowed to do this but those days are over.

 

To me this is shocking with the amount of Snowbirds that flock to AZ and just about everything and anything can be made street legal in the state.

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In AZ you need a CDL, as Mark said. While there was historically a way to circumvent this, it has not been possible to do so for many years. Unless something has changed very recently that is the way it is....but it is worth investigating if you have to domicile there.

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sadly Adot was one of the reasons why i sold my Pete :(

my DiamondT is on a MDT chassis and AZ registered as a "private truck"

 

what pi..es me off is that Adot stubbornly sticks to "a commercial tractor will always be a commercial tractor",

regardless of what you do to it

but on the other hand you can take a (commercial !?!) Bus, yank out all the seats and register it as a "Bus conversion RV" ....

that does not make any sense at all :huh:

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Thanks. This is very discouraging too say the least and really put me in a spot. I bought a 39 ' fiver I've keep in az few years back to full time in. Now I'm ready too do just that and come too find out ( didn't do the math correctly) that my ford f350 can not leagally pull it due to it's weight. Would if it was completly empty maybe. I've driven gets for years off road but didn't need a cdl. Too late in life too get one now and souldnd need one when you look at who driving some of the motor on the road now. Does mdt have the same issues? Would a south dakota or ?? Address make any difference. Thanks for any info on this. It took me a week before I was able to get any info from a real dmv person.

Seems the government wants too make us all criminals. I there's many rigs on the road that are over there leagal weightlimits. What the remidie

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Lance,

 

In a lot of ways we felt your pain in that the wifes Horseback trail lifestyle tends to make for "Heavy-Duty-RV-Oprerations"......

 

Over the years we "got-by" with less than ideal human accommodations on the road in favor of a reasonable vehicle loading when engaging in the horse hobby.......

 

Dolly-the-paint-horse is fairly light weight at 950 to 975 POUNDS.....Gulp.....but add in another 1,000 to 2,000 POUNDS of feed and tack and then don't forget a ANOTHER 2,000 POUNDS of water if you "Dry-Camp" and pretty soon your "Average RV" is likely just silly-overloaded.

 

The only "Advantage" we seem to have is that we own a few homes in the state of Oregon and we were born in Oregon where it is silly-simple to just take almost any sleeper equipped truck down to the local DMV office and pay the fee of about $13 per foot and simply have the rig titled as a motor home and oh by the way just drive away with a class C (auto) drivers lic..........ONLY one catch.......(with a HDT it seems to alway be a ....catch)........You HAVE to prove that you are a REAL Oregon Resident..........Not a "P O Box quasi-LLC resident like SD and a few other states..........

 

We have had Arizona homes in the past but have taken great care to Always keep enough homes in Oregon to NOT become a Arizona resident for many reasons........

 

Oregon is not perfect of course but it is a pretty good place to have a HDT RV.........

 

Moving to Oregon would be a pretty drastic "move" to get your HDT converted to RV status and the last "catch" is that Oregon DMV gets real nasty if they find that a HDT has been converted to a HDT RV without real resident status.........

 

Drive on............(HDT RV's sometimes has a "catch" or........2)

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This is what I did. AZ resident but kept my truck in California. Since my HDT was a resident of California it required California registration as a Motorhome. My home being in AZ required me to have an AZ drivers license. In AZ, you are not required to have a special license to drive a motorhome!

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You keep saying that you can't legally tow your trailer with your f350. The only weight police that will say anything are on the forum. At least you will be able to move it it of the state. Have you actually weighed the rv?

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One way to do it is to become a "full timer" and domicile in Texas or South Dakota.

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another way to avoid a lot of issues is to not base your tow rig on a semi truck ....

 

disclaimer; not 100% sure on all legalities (so do your own checks)

 

btw

my experience with Adot is that if you ask 5 individual officers you get 7 different answers :blink:

 

not a grey area.... more like a who really knows area :huh:

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current project; 1952 Diamond T, Cummins 8.3l @ 375hp/ 800ft lbs
, single axle, 239" WB, 1954 Spartan 137" air ride sleeper ....

full timing in a 39 foot "sticks & staples POS" Toyhauler (planing to build an all aluminum 42-45 foot replacement soon) ...

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At least in CA weighing it won't due you any good

They look for axles. If you have 3 axles that would mean they are at least 5k normally more. And that means Evan if your trailer weighs less than 10k,it can haul over 15k.

I'm told that's why a lot of RV manufacturers are going back to only 2 axle trailers. Which we all know is not safe

At all.

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At least in CA weighing it won't due you any good

They look for axles. If you have 3 axles that would mean they are at least 5k normally more. And that means Evan if your trailer weighs less than 10k,it can haul over 15k.

I'm told that's why a lot of RV manufacturers are going back to only 2 axle trailers. Which we all know is not safe

At all.

Bronco,

 

Is correct! In Cal, if you have a 3 axle trailer you better be carrying a DOT Health Certificate. Some Chippies like to give you a big ticket and park you on the side of the road if you've got a trailer with 3 axles and no health certificates. I've seen this happen on multiple occasions to my friends! They are extremely viligant about this around Glamis (i8), Central Coast (hwy 101) and central valley (i5).

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Bronco,

 

Is correct! In Cal, if you have a 3 axle trailer you better be carrying a DOT Health Certificate. Some Chippies like to give you a big ticket and park you on the side of the road if you've got a trailer with 3 axles and no health certificates. I've seen this happen on multiple occasions to my friends! They are extremely viligant about this around Glamis (i8), Central Coast (hwy 101) and central valley (i5).

Does this apply to out of state tourist with rigs that are legal in home state?

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