Virginia to change concealed carry reciprocity - UPDATE (see last post)

TCW · December 22, 2015

Just a heads up to those with concealed carry permits: "States being severed in the Virginia reciprocity agreements are: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

Five other states will remain in the reciprocity agreement. They include West Virginia, Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, and Utah."

I tried to create a link to the article but the forum would not accept it, A web search will result in several articles on the subject.

Edited March 10, 2016 by TCW

skp51443 · December 23, 2015

Google gave me a couple links that will post here:

VSP Reciprocity and Recognition: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm

Virginia to stop recognizing concealed carry gun permits from 25 states:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/va-attorney-general-mark-herring-delivers-blow-to-gun-rights-advocates/2015/12/21/d72ce3d0-a821-11e5-9b92-dea7cd4b1a4d_story.html

Going to be a real aggravation, shame we can't have a national concealed carry permit, we could carry it with our national fishing license. :-(

chirakawa · December 23, 2015

Google gave me a couple links that will post here:

VSP Reciprocity and Recognition: http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_Reciprocity.shtm

Virginia to stop recognizing concealed carry gun permits from 25 states:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/va-attorney-general-mark-herring-delivers-blow-to-gun-rights-advocates/2015/12/21/d72ce3d0-a821-11e5-9b92-dea7cd4b1a4d_story.html

Going to be a real aggravation, shame we can't have a national concealed carry permit, we could carry it with our national fishing license. :-(

There are some who believe that we are a federation of united States and that all powers not specifically delegated to the Federal Government by the Constitution are left to the States to administer.

Kirk W · December 23, 2015

Going to be a real aggravation, shame we can't have a national concealed carry permit, we could carry it with our national fishing license. :-(

Those and our national driving license and voter registration.

Ray,IN · December 23, 2015

Oh-well, I didn't lose anything there, no need to go there. I need to send their visitors bureau an email to that effect.

pjstough · December 23, 2015

That darn pesky 10th Amendment rears its ugly head again. Wouldnt it be nice if we could just do away with a few of them?

TCW · December 23, 2015

Google gave me a couple links that will post here:

Thanks Stan!

I tried a couple of articles using both the link feature and actually typing in the [url="xxxxxx code and the link created just came back to the forum topic. When I hovered over the link it would show the url for this forum topic. Yet I was able to link to the search results I posted. I tried using the full editor feature with equal no results. At one point it even created a duplicate topic when I clicked save changes.

LindaH · December 23, 2015

Whenever I want to post a link in a reply, I copy the URL and paste it in my post. I've never had the forum not accept a link done this way.

Kirk W · December 23, 2015

I tried a couple of articles using both the link feature and actually typing in the [url="xxxxxx code and the link created just came back to the forum topic. When I hovered over the link it would show the url for this forum topic. Yet I was able to link to the search results I posted. I tried using the full editor feature with equal no results. At one point it even created a duplicate topic when I clicked save changes.

It really isn't that difficult to do, once you know how. The first thing is to type in what you want to use to make the live link, such as the word "LINK" or the article title, or even the name of the site chosen. Then go to the chosen site (I use a second tab for that) and highlight the url address window contents and copy it to memory. After that, return to your post in progress and highlight the chosen LINK and then click on the chain link icon at the top of the posting window and it will open a window that you then paste the copied url into. You may want to use the "Test post" forum just to experiment in to try your hand. Example: NSSF

TCW · December 23, 2015

It really isn't that difficult to do, once you know how. The first thing is to type in what you want to use to make the live link, such as the word "LINK" or the article title, or even the name of the site chosen. Then go to the chosen site (I use a second tab for that) and highlight the url address window contents and copy it to memory. After that, return to your post in progress and highlight the chosen LINK and then click on the chain link icon at the top of the posting window and it will open a window that you then paste the copied url into. You may want to use the "Test post" forum just to experiment in to try your hand. Example: NSSF

Thanks for the lesson Kirk. However, as I stated, I know how to do it using both the LINK button and typing the actual code which is (bracket)url="httpxxxxx"(bracket)link name(bracket)/url(bracket) and have done so many many times previously on this forum. It would not work for the article links, but if you look at the original post you will notice it did work for the link to the website search results. In addition to posting a duplicate topic while trying to edit the post to make the link work, I also got error messages trying to sign in and out.

Edited December 23, 2015 by TCW

traviscarr · December 24, 2015

Remember....political posts are against the rules are grounds for a warning.

Mariner · December 24, 2015

Does anyone know if Va. offers a non-resident CCW? If they do that would be one way to get around it.

TXiceman · December 24, 2015

Does anyone know if Va. offers a non-resident CCW? If they do that would be one way to get around it.

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

Yes they do. See link.

Ken

StarDreamers.us · December 24, 2015

Thanks for the heads up. As usual we can count on good information here.

Safe Travels!

Mariner · December 25, 2015

http://www.vsp.state.va.us/Firearms_NonresidentConcealed.shtm

Yes they do. See link.

Ken

Thanks Ken. The web site shows it to be pretty straight forward.

remoandiris · December 27, 2015

Thanks Ken. The web site shows it to be pretty straight forward.

IIRC, the cost of a Va non-res CCW is $100. Check to see if Utah's non-resident CCW permit is honored in Va. It may be a better way to augment your home state's permit; honored in more states, cheaper price, etc.

whj469 · December 28, 2015

My brother just went to the courthouse in PA and got a CHL. He did have to sign a few forms but no gun range or class.

When I got my Texas CHL in 1995, I think, it was two days of class, pass a test and shoot. Now I think that I soon will be able to open carry

in Texas. I had wondered how a PA CHL would be accepted in Texas?

We will have to see how the open carry works in Texas.

TCW · March 10, 2016

The Virginia legislature has apparently chosen to address the issue of concealed carry and reverse the previous actions. Here is a link to the latest information I have found.

Pieere · March 21, 2016

I just read on google news that Massachusetts lawmakers want to ban stun guns after a homeless lady carried one to protect herself! I guess when one becomes homeless they are ruled as useless to society!!! Hope this is not to political?? :angry:

MT_flyfisher · March 23, 2016

My brother just went to the courthouse in PA and got a CHL. He did have to sign a few forms but no gun range or class.

When I got my Texas CHL in 1995, I think, it was two days of class, pass a test and shoot. Now I think that I soon will be able to open carry

in Texas. I had wondered how a PA CHL would be accepted in Texas?

We will have to see how the open carry works in Texas.

You are right about PA. Simply pay the fee and walk out with a concealed carry permit. Assuming you are not a felon, or whatever.

There is absolutely no requirement that you know anything about safety or shooting proficiency. In fact, if you go to a county sheriff's office any day of the week in PA and look at the people who are walking out with these permits it will scare the bejesus out of you. If the states want to implement any kind of gun controls in this country, that is a no brainier place to start - at least make sure everyone knows which end of the barrel the bullets come out before you give them a license to carry a gun in their underwear.

My understanding that VA has pretty intensive training requirements before you can qualify for a concealed carry permit. That is exactly what should be done in every state, in my opinion. If all of the other states are like PA, I completely agree with what VA has done.

John

KodiakJack · March 23, 2016

I just read on google news that Massachusetts lawmakers want to ban stun guns after a homeless lady carried one to protect herself! I guess when one becomes homeless they are ruled as useless to society!!! Hope this is not to political??

SCOTUS recently slapped that one down.

Later,

J

Monday, the Supreme Court overturned that decision, which it said clearly contradicted the specific language of the 2008 ruling. The justices then sent the case back to the Massachusetts court for further unspecified action, but the message looked pretty clear: stun guns are covered by the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

Link to NPR story: http://www.npr.org/2016/03/21/471316349/supreme-court-suggests-stun-guns-are-protected-by-second-amendment

Edited March 23, 2016 by KodiakJack

robwhite61 · March 28, 2016

You are right about PA. Simply pay the fee and walk out with a concealed carry permit. Assuming you are not a felon, or whatever.

There is absolutely no requirement that you know anything about safety or shooting proficiency. In fact, if you go to a county sheriff's office any day of the week in PA and look at the people who are walking out with these permits it will scare the bejesus out of you. If the states want to implement any kind of gun controls in this country, that is a no brainier place to start - at least make sure everyone knows which end of the barrel the bullets come out before you give them a license to carry a gun in their underwear.

My understanding that VA has pretty intensive training requirements before you can qualify for a concealed carry permit. That is exactly what should be done in every state, in my opinion. If all of the other states are like PA, I completely agree with what VA has done.

John

Not all the states are like PA. TN has an 8 hr. class (4 hrs classroom with a written test, 4 hrs range), application that includes fingerprints and a background check. TN has a handgun carry permit, no distinction between open or concealed.

twodips · July 31, 2016

My wife got her CCP for both AZ and UT at the same time. UT issues to non-residents and covers what AZ doesn't.

CqCasting · September 14, 2016

Great Topic People, I've been looking over the conceal carry issue for the Pacific Northwest including Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and California. It appears that even though some states recognize permits from some states but not neighboring states one would have to acquire several permits from other states in order to be legal. Nevada gets real confusing as it looks like they only issue by county, (or have I missed something)? Point is that when traveling across country one can really get into a federal violation of transport should one get stopped. Another point to consider is, do you mention a weapon on board or keep silent?

I'm asking as this is a situational incident one may encounter while traveling and by state and federal regulations one law abiding citizen may become prosecuted and convicted due to an over site. Either way one is faced with the legal financial stress of protecting their home and family.

I agree with Stanley P Miller, we need a National Conceal Carry Permit. How do we accomplish such a task?

Newt · September 14, 2016

Great Topic People, I've been looking over the conceal carry issue for the Pacific Northwest including Washington, Oregon, Nevada, and California. It appears that even though some states recognize permits from some states but not neighboring states one would have to acquire several permits from other states in order to be legal. Nevada gets real confusing as it looks like they only issue by county, (or have I missed something)? Point is that when traveling across country one can really get into a federal violation of transport should one get stopped. Another point to consider is, do you mention a weapon on board or keep silent?

I'm asking as this is a situational incident one may encounter while traveling and by state and federal regulations one law abiding citizen may become prosecuted and convicted due to an over site. Either way one is faced with the legal financial stress of protecting their home and family.

I agree with Stanley P Miller, we need a National Conceal Carry Permit. How do we accomplish such a task?

A carry permit is likely encoded on your drivers license.

Newt