Brad & Jacolyn Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Hi guys, I'm still having the air leak in the fuel system causing hard starting and white smoke. Some of you know about it already. In another post I asked about service in FL. that is not listed in the resource guide. I got one name and a couple suggestions. Thanks. When I went back looking again I found what I'm showing in the picture. Is this a replace the fuel lines problem OR can a clamp of some type be put on the lines and stop any air leak? I found 3 - 4 collars like the one shown in the same condition on the fuel lines. Thanks. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 From that pic, I don't see anything out of the ordinary. My eyes are pretty crappy though. Is there any sign of fuel seepage? 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Seems like a fairly common pinch clamp, so I'd head down to a good hardware so and try that. You'll need the proper tool to "pinch/crimp" it as well. http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-hose-clamps/=103uibs http://www.mcmaster.com/#pinch-clamp-pincers/=103ulz2 "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Brad, If what I'm seeing is correct, the collar is split. I'm no expert but think I'd just replace. For me wouldn't want a fuel line with an "iffy" repair. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Fuel lines swell over time on the inside also breakdown on the inside causing all kinds of problems. If it's at a point that the collet is cracking like that I would definitely replace the entire line. And take a good look at the rest of your lines if you don't know how long they been on the truck generally over a half 1,000,000 miles you need to start thinking about replacing them. IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 I agree with Bronco. I don't know what the "real" lifetime of the fuel lines are - I would expect it relates to the quality of the line. But I DO know that they degrade and can cause issues. And since you have issues I'd start to replace the lines that look real bad, over time. Rather than attempt any repair that is more than temporary. That is the philosophy I apply to my truck, anyways..... Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Maybe time to replace line as there could be a problem with the fitting. Trying to get old crimp off to recrimp would be apita. You most likely need to take that end off to fix crimp so just take the other end off while you are at it. With the age of vehicle I think is time to replace the fuel line. Safe Travels, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Our truck was having some problems like you describe and the fuel lines were replaced. It fixed most of the problem including an occasional misfire. Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept99 Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 Brad; If you were broken down somewhere, then the clamp fix, or anything else that would work temporarily would be acceptable. Sounds like you're OK for the moment, so I'd recommend a replacement. The collet that you see split is installed with a crimping machine. Hand applied clamps will work but generally don't develop sufficient clamping pressure to serve as a permanent fix. Most Napa stores or any other parts house that makes hydraulic hoses could make that hose up in a few minutes. Just be sure that they understand that it is a fuel hose...it matters. Check for Metric vs SAE fittings. And be sure one end has a swivel fitting so you can actually install the dern thing Good luck Paul Paul & Paula + Daisy the amazing wiggle worm dog... 2001 Volvo 770 Autoshift, Singled, w/ Aluminum Bed - Toy Draggin 2013 395AMP XLR Thunderbolt Toy Hauler 2013 Smart Passion 2012 CanAm Spyder RT 2013 Harley Davidson Street Glide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maveric Posted December 5, 2015 Report Share Posted December 5, 2015 What Paul said is correct. I was stranded on the side of the road last year with a hole in a fuel line. I was able to use some hydraulic hose from Napa to get me by until I could get home and replace it. If I remember right, the OE hose (From Freightliner) was like $30. It was about 3 feet long too. Mine has the re-useable "aero-quip" style ends, which I was lucky to have had, since the Napa did not have the correct crimp on fittings. Chris & Tonya '99 Freightliner FLD120, '01 Wabash Toyhauler (32' garage, 20' LQ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrap Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Yea, those are the fancy Voss fuel fittings so they'll be Volvo hoses. Your standard Parker store isn't going to be able to make them up. If you have the time and a good fitting man you could yard it all out and replace with 45 flare that would use a normal aramid hose and fittings but I'm not sure it is worth it. All depends on your goals I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 Brad, Looked back at your sig and found the answers to a couple of questions I had in the PM. Rod White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enophite Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I would def R&R those fuel lines, that pic with the broken collar says it all in my book, don't cheap out on fuel lines, ain't worth taking the chance for more trouble down the road. 01, Volvo 770 08, 41' KZ New Vision Triple Slide, Triple Axle Toy Hauler 5ver. 5th Airborne Air ride Pin Box 2009 Rag Top Smart Car FullTimers since 01 USAF CMSgt. Ret. http://enophile.blogspot.com/ Remember, If you find yourself in a fair fight, Your tactics suck!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I would def R&R those fuel lines, that pic with the broken collar says it all in my book, don't cheap out on fuel lines, ain't worth taking the chance for more trouble down the road. Enophite, Love the last line in your signature. Words to live by, lol. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 What does it cost to replace Volvo fuel lines and how difficult a job is it on a scale of 1 > 5? I kinda follow along and address things others have issues with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted December 6, 2015 Report Share Posted December 6, 2015 I need glasses. 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 I need glasses. A youngster like yourself? Getting old sucks, but NOT getting old is worse. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted December 7, 2015 Report Share Posted December 7, 2015 A youngster like yourself? Getting old sucks, but NOT getting old is worse. 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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