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We are headed down on the 4th, cross at Columbia Bridge north of Laredo, Matehuala, San Miguel del Allende, Puebla (friends), Orizaba (friends), Villahermosa or Palenque turnoff, east of Escarcega, and then four or so weeks on beach north of Tulum, a few more weeks in interior of Yucatan, around the coast and then across Isthmus to San Cristobal de las Casas and then up the coast. Probably get into Arizona around the first week of April.

Reed and Elaine

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Yeah but 5 Australians were murdered in the US last year. Crap happens. 900 Australians are killed abroad annually from various causes, including murders. From the looks of it these guys drove after dark & boondocked in the middle of nowhere. Risky behaviour in any country you are not familair with.

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If the US State Dept restricts travel of it's employees in Mexico, why would anyone go there and expect different results, and it's gotten worse in the last 5 years? If you play with fire you may get burned!!

 

US Dept Web Site:

Continued concerns regarding criminal activity on highways along the Mexican border (which includes placement of illegal checkpoints and the murder of persons who do not stop and/or surrender their vehicles) have prompted the U.S. Mission in Mexico to impose certain restrictions on U.S. government employees transiting the area. Effective July 15, 2010, U.S. government employees cannot drive from the U.S.-Mexico border to or from any post in the interior of Mexico or to and from Central America. This policy does not apply to employees traveling to border posts (Tijuana, Nogales, Ciudad Juarez, Nuevo Laredo, and Matamoros) from the United States or to travel between Hermosillo and Nogales

 

I traveled many times within Mexico for business and always wanted to retire there, but no way under current conditions. I know some people go there with no issues but it is still a high risk.

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I have spent 8 years in Mexico at least 6 months a year and driven nearly every highway in the country during that time. I have never seen any incident nor been involved in any incident. I did however change my route throguh Phoenix this year due to a sniper on the freeway, and I was in Tucson about 4 years ago one block from where a congresswoman was shot. I don't suppose the State department ever ssues warnings about its own country though.

 

Enough said.

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In the news today. The burned out van of the Australian surfers, with their burned bodies has been found. It was located near a town known by locals as "the cemetery". News article said that drug cartel perform executions there every day. I'm sure those guys would not have gone there on their "dream trip to Mexico" if they had known. You could stumble into the wrong place in the USA also, but I think I'll take my chances here.

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Would you take a camper van after dark into parts of SE LA, Detroit or New Orleans & boondock? 2 years ago I had to pick up my wife who was flying into Phoenix. I looked around for a place to park my traier and wait for a few hours. Found an emptly lot. After dark 2 black guys in hoodies came by and pulled a knife on me. Coincidentally a police cruiser showed upy and they ran. I could have easily been killed if they had not happened by. I had no cash which is what they were demanding. The point is if you don't know an area, you are foolish to go off the beaten track after dark.

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Three years ago I used to drive a commercial truck and spent nights parked on the streets of Detroit, Chicago, and one night in the Bronx, NY. I knew it was risky but I never had a problem. It is a different issue having a problem in the USA. If you have a problem in Mexico it gets much more complicated real fast.

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The families of the two men earlier said they were aware the van had been found and that a "tragic event" had occurred, but still did not know exactly what had happened.

Everyone is jumping to conclusions, eh? A little mob mentality?

Was it carbon monoxide from something inside? A heater? Both found inside and burned to death.

Oh wait! That's a murder, eh?

Sigh. . . .

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this incident is similar to one that happened in canada acouple of years ago. A couple also departed form Edmonton, oddly enoguh and theri burnt out Rv was found about 200 miles into their trip. It sure did nto hit the international press like this incident despite being almost the same circumstances. They were murdered. Only dif was they were seniors not surfers. Moral of the story is dont start your trip in Edmonton, I suppose.

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I have spent 8 years in Mexico at least 6 months a year and driven nearly every highway in the country during that time. I have never seen any incident nor been involved in any incident. I did however change my route throguh Phoenix this year due to a sniper on the freeway, and I was in Tucson about 4 years ago one block from where a congresswoman was shot. I don't suppose the State department ever ssues warnings about its own country though.

 

Enough said.

 

When one's business is escorting and coordinating RV'rs travel throughout Mexico, one has a tendency to pass out rose colored glasses.

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When one's business is escorting and coordinating RV'rs travel throughout Mexico, one has a tendency to pass out rose colored glasses.

I do not have rose color glasses and NO business interest in Mexico. SH$T happens everywhere! Currently camped in a Beach front site at Tres Amigos RV Park on Stone Island in Mazatlan, Mexico with 50amps ($22 USD plus elec/night by the month). Weather is Cool at night, Warm during the day, with a perfect Ocean Breeze. Better 3/4s had a 90 min massage (for $39USD) from a great Canadian Snowbird who moves here business down here in the winter on Wed and will have one every Wed until we return to USA. Breakfast & Dinner on the beach walking distance from the park. Taking the water taxi (40 cents one-way) into Mazatlan today to purchase a few items. It is tough but someone has to put up with this little piece of paradise. I do agree there are other paradise locations as we will be in Yuma & Quartzsite in Feb for a little off-roading. And summer in Utah iis increditible!

 

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

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Actually I do not get paid to wagon master, just my expenses. I have been doing it for 4 years. I originally did it to help out some RV parks run by people who have become good friends, when all the bad publicity was killing them. I love this country & its people and I get immense pleasure out of introducing people to RVing here and dispelling the myths about safety. Over the last 8 years I have driven most of Mexico, logged over the equivalent of 4 continuously years and 40,000 miles and have yet to see single incident. If fact quite the opposite, I can't stop anywhere on the road without people stopping to see if I need assistance. I have traveled through more than 50 countries in my lifetime including Africa, the Middle East, Asia, etc. I was actually held by Palestinian guerrillas for 2 weeks in the early 70's. I am hardly in the habit of looking at any country through rose colored glasses. On the other hand I am hardly naive either. I am certainly not one of those couch surfers who feel they are an expert on a country they have never taken an RV into. To be quite frank, the US scares me far more. You are now averaging just slighty under one mass shooting per day in the US year, many of them against purely random targets. That is my definition of scary. Art least if someone wants to kill me here, they have a personal reason.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2015/oct/02/mass-shootings-america-gun-violence

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mocroc/telcoman, can I assume that you speak and read mexican-spanish? (not Spain-spanish) That would be a real plus. It is heartening to get a somewhat reasonable idea that most of Mexico is more safe than not. True enough that stuff can happen any where. I am somewhat affected by a friend who retired there and lived in a small town for 16years and married a local but eventually got kidnapped and held for about $20K ransom. These were "professional" kidnappers and just wanted the money and not to harm him so he was turned loose when the ransom was paid. Still he was taken and held at gunpoint and it scared the hell out of him and since he spent most of his life as a Repo' man he didn't scare easily.

 

After the fact I thought to ask if " Ransom insurance is available and somewhat common if you know. My friend was not wealthy but fortunately had in-laws that were able to raise the money.

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mocroc/telcoman, can I assume that you speak and read mexican-spanish? (not Spain-spanish) That would be a real plus. It is heartening to get a somewhat reasonable idea that most of Mexico is more safe than not. True enough that stuff can happen any where. I am somewhat affected by a friend who retired there and lived in a small town for 16years and married a local but eventually got kidnapped and held for about $20K ransom. These were "professional" kidnappers and just wanted the money and not to harm him so he was turned loose when the ransom was paid. Still he was taken and held at gunpoint and it scared the hell out of him and since he spent most of his life as a Repo' man he didn't scare easily.

After the fact I thought to ask if " Ransom insurance is available and somewhat common if you know. My friend was not wealthy but fortunately had in-laws that were able tbo raise the money.

Can only speak for my better 3/4s and myself. Maybe 10 words of spanish between us. Has never been a problem. There is always someone around that does if needed but most of the time hand motions & pointing. For the price of something the vendor will bring the price up on a calulator or write it down. When I get fuel I know how much fuel I have burned from the gauge, convert to ltrs and estimate the cost in pesos (price/ltr is the same everywhere). I round off to an easy number 1500 pesos have my better 3/4s write on a piece of paper 1500p and show it to the person at the pump. Watch the amount on the pump NEVER taking your eyes off. When finished count out the bills (normally not more than five) and ask for a ticket. They will provide a printed receipt. At the tolls the price is on a board as you reach the toll booth and most now have a screen you can see that will show the toll amount. Try to keep change to a min. Those are the two toughest transactions. I say keep bills and change to a min because you will not be fast enough to calulate in the time provided. Have never been taken advantage of but a couple times in 17 years for just a few pesos which is less than $1USD. Here is a site that will help with a lot of knowledge and good people who go SOB (South Of the Border). http://www.rv.net/forum/index.cfm/fuseaction/listings/forum/66.cfm

 

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

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  • 4 weeks later...

Wishing all a Happy New Year - "Feliz Ano nuevo" ...

 

 

GOOD NEWS UPDATE - Happy to report a very successful trip from McAllen, Texas to Panama with a small group of RVs...Just returned and (as always) never had and problems with the RVs or any other!

 

The Policia Federal in Reynosa Tampulipas provided a escort from Reynosa to Cd. Victoria at no charge and as a new tourist promotion - vehicles meet between 8am and 9am at the beginning of Hwy 97, group up, and on to Cd Victoria... nice gesture by the Police!

 

Highways were all good to excellent along the route, and the border crossings were better than before, there is always a lot of paperwork and the average time was about 2 hours.

 

We used the Trekoftheamericas' roadlogs, for the routing, which follows mostly the Pan AMerican Highway.

 

Mexicos prices are better than before because of the devalued Peso...about 17 to 1 USD>

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pretty much my experience as well. I am crossing at nogales on the 10th

with a caravan. we have a green angel escort most of the trip. In fall , in a couple of spots cops gave us free escorts and even joined us for dinner. great folks down there, don't let the few bad apples spoil the experience.

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Just returned from Mazatlan on the West/Pacific Coast. The road from the Nogales Crossing to Mazatlan & back was the WORST (potholes) & most UNSAFE (traffic reduced to a single two-way roadway on the toll roads) road I have ever driven. I don't say this lightly as I have driven over 15,000 miles in Mexico with a RV and hundreds of thousands of miles in the USA with a RV. I will not EVER drive this road again, too much truck traffic. The trip easily took 3-5 years off the life of our RV & me (lol). Will return to Mexico but not down Mex 15. Was nice to be camped on a warm beach site over the holidays.

 

rocmoc n AZ/Mexico

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