GlennWest Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Found this truck, Just looking now. Has 14 L Detroit. How are they. Know the 60 series were mpg kings, so I read. http://www.truckpaper.com/listingsdetail/detail.aspx?OHID=6492733 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Glenn. Hop down and ....kick the tires and light the fires.....take it for a spin.......listen to the 'shaker-song".... Remember..........its a truck.....and only some $$........ya can't take it with you at the end...... Drive on..........(Shake......rattle.......and NO roll....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 I like you. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Put it on a dyno. Drive it and check the steering. Low mileage for a price that low. The DD series 60 is a solid engine so far as i know. While you are there, take a look and see if they have a reasonably priced pete 379 for me. I have trouble making it that far east, i work in katy and live west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 League City not far from Katy. Will do though. Get time off next week. If open going. That price is suspicious. Hearing though truck sales down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Series 60 Non-EGR were King of the MPG. i suspect its due for a In-frame rebuild since it *IS* a EGR motor. *IF* your serious DEFINATELY have a Dyno done.... DONT bypass that step with that kind of mileage and a EGR motor. and have a inspection service do there thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Just talked me out of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Lou why do you think it would need an in frame at only 755k? I do agree you should have a dyno done on any truck if you can. If truck was serviced correctly it should be closer to 1 million miles. You do need to verify that the shop can do a dyno on an ultra shift as we found that not all shops could as they did not have the right software for the transmission. Glen we have the 14L in ours. The 12.7L they say gives better mileage but consider how many miles a year you plan to drive it and you will probably see than 2-3 mpg better won't make a lot if difference. Ours is a mid roof and we got about 11 bobtail (which is not too often) and depending on head wind, we vary from 8-10 pulling our 18k trailer. Typically in the high 8's low 9's. I forget what ratio rear end we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 They at least took the time to clean it up. Let us know how it checks out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Seriously. He take me out of it. Really want mid height but might settle for that. But bad mouthing an egr motor, that's it for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Lou why do you think it would need an in frame at only 755k? I do agree you should have a dyno done on any truck if you can. If truck was serviced correctly it should be closer to 1 million miles. You do need to verify that the shop can do a dyno on an ultra shift as we found that not all shops could as they did not have the right software for the transmission. Glen we have the 14L in ours. The 12.7L they say gives better mileage but consider how many miles a year you plan to drive it and you will probably see than 2-3 mpg better won't make a lot if difference. Ours is a mid roof and we got about 11 bobtail (which is not too often) and depending on head wind, we vary from 8-10 pulling our 18k trailer. Typically in the high 8's low 9's. I forget what ratio rear end we have. Star, you have to understand how the EGR (and DPF on newer trucks) works. it shoves a PILE of the exhaust back into the intake along with all the soot etc. it creates extra wear and tear on the motor. Alot of the PRE-EGR motors seen 1 Million before they needed a inframe (provided they maintained them correctly) , the newer ones are 600-800k when they need a inframe. it all comes down to the fact of the EPA forcing the mandates on Motor MFG to comply. seeing alot of newer trucks coming to market with lower miles due to the owners/fleets unloading them before they have to sink a pile of $$ into them for a in-frame. THATS why i strongly suggest a DYNO. that will give you a clue on how soon that in-frame is coming your way. the Series 60 will have a Higher allowable BLOWBY numbers than other motors. EDIT: clean up my formatting and add info about the dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 But an 06 doesn't have dpf at least I understand was 2007. Am I wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 But an 06 doesn't have dpf at least I understand was 2007. Am I wrong i believe that DPF was 07 or 08 ... the 06 SHOULD be EGR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I would disable it if I got it. Egr not good for a diesel. Plenty of info on net about this. This is the first I've heard about short engine life with egr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 I would disable it if I got it. Egr not good for a diesel. Plenty of info on net about this. This is the first I've heard about short engine life with egr the downside to disabling the EGR on big trucks is Increased EGT temperatures.... there are quite a few Detroit 14L modules around to trick the ECM but none of the MFG are in business anymore as the EPA got ahold of them. they dont solve the bigger issue of the increased engine wear/Existing engine wear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Well, I thought Detroit was a good engine. Sounds like I should look for something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Detroits are Good engines. they are lower in cost on parts to fix them versus the others. they are reliable as long as you take care of them. my truck went 1.2 Million before she needed a in-frame but mine is Pre-EGR Detroit and preventive maintainance was done along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Dealer has no provision to dyno an ultrashift truck. Stated he doesn't change oil until sale complete for oil samples correctness. I would have to take it somewhere. Not having a cdl complicates this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Well, I thought Detroit was a good engine. Sounds like I should look for something else It is a good engine. Do a delete on the EGR may raise the exhaust temp if your towing 60,000lbs, but I would seriously doubt 20k would make a difference from bobtail. I would ask the dealer if he knows of a shop that can do a dyno. If he wants to sell the truck then let him do some leg work. There was also a Volvo posted by somebody- Green, I-shift- V14? recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Dealer is unreasonable. He wants me to give him 1k deposit, nonrefundable, to take truck to get dyno. The nonrefundable part. If it fails I out of 1k and price of dyno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Dealer has no provision to dyno an ultrashift truck. Stated he doesn't change oil until sale complete for oil samples correctness. I would have to take it somewhere. Not having a cdl complicates this call around and find a shop with a dyno that can do the ultrashift. if the dealer wants to sell it , they can send somebody over with the truck and meet them at the shop and get the dyno results.... if the dealer doesnt want to cooperate or help, RUN the other way and find a different truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunJuniper Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Dealer is unreasonable. He wants me to give him 1k deposit, nonrefundable, to take truck to get dyno. The nonrefundable part. If it fails I out of 1k and price of dyno. granted you would have to lay out some cash for the dyno itself. id RUN the other way and find a different truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 He back up on that. Talked to owner and stated they would do inframe if failure or refund deposit. They have a BBB rating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Put it on a dyno. Drive it and check the steering. Low mileage for a price that low. The DD series 60 is a solid engine so far as i know. While you are there, take a look and see if they have a reasonably priced pete 379 for me. I have trouble making it that far east, i work in katy and live west. has a 99 379. looks sharp. just got inframe. Cat though C12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Posted November 20, 2015 Report Share Posted November 20, 2015 has a 99 379. looks sharp. just got inframe. Cat though C12 Hmm, guess i need to take the time to go take a peek at it. Looks good in the pix. Pricey for age, but looks like biggest ticket items have been overhauled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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