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I tried loading our smart today and not sure if I was babying the car too much or what, but started off at about 10ft from the ramps and got about the front tires about 6" from the truck bed before it lost its momentum and had to back down a few times.. I had it in FIRST, should I have it in Automatic instead? May end up going the winch route..

 

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Definitely keep it in first. It is an auto trans, but in fact it has a rather delicate clutch according to all I have read.

 

I recommend the winch, makes it easier and safer. I have always winched up and driven off, for almost 10 years now. I did kill a 2,500 lb MileMarker winch early on and changed to an 8k Smittybilt.

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I hook up the winch and also have the car in drive. I drive a little and then winch in the slack. It's still an uncomfortable feeling pointing straight up like your in a rocket. I tried to get my wife to do it but she won't have any part of it!

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Never have driven it up, either the '05 or the '11.

 

The '05 had the 700 cc Mercedes with a 6 spd, the '11 has the 1 L Mitsubishi and a 5 spd. It may be the 450 models (G&K gray market ones) with the 6 speed that had the delicate clutch. I just feel more comfortable winching up. Actually winched it off at first as well.

 

All of the US market 451s have the Mitsubishi engine w/ 5spd., the Merc turbo w/ 6spd. was never officially imported.

 

I would expect that the 1 liter 451 would have more torque from a dead stop than the 700cc turbos did.

 

Jambro - DW won't even watch me load or unload! LOL!

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Herrin put a 2000lb Warn winch on my truck which even a direct pull was plenty. Direct pull was very jerky so I put a marine pulley or snatch block on the cars back bumper, returned the non winch end back to the A frame and winch the car up backwards.

 

The most important thing for me is to get the car perpendicular to the truck. If it's not then it won't hit both chocks on the other side of the truck deck. Also lined up equally from side to side on the ramps. In my case there is 2.5" to spare on either side, then winch it up, engine running , trans in neutral.

The 450 weighs 2200 lbs, I ran it over the scales with me in it and I'm 175 lbs.

 

I drive mine down. Pucker factor is 2.5 on a scale of 5.

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I have been driving on and backing off for about 4 years with no problem. Just line up the tire and as the fronts start up gun it a little and up she goes. I have a 451 and I have heard that the 450 has a weaker clutch. My wife has also driven it up the ramps once and said it was not bad.

 

 

Brad

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Hi y'all!

 

We want to put our 2015 Smart on the utility long bed of our 3500HD Silverado. It will have to go across the bed just like the pictures you have of your Smarts on your tractors. It'll stick out a couple of inches on each side. :huh:

 

I like the sound of the winch. Someone said Harbor Freight. Does it have to be permanently mounted on the truck?

 

I'm not sure about putting the ramps under the Smart for travelling. There should be enough room at the back of the bed to strap them down.

 

What do you think?

 

Thanks for any advice you have.

 

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Kathy

aka klesmiley

 

And would you be interested in a Smart Car Rally?

http://smartcarnationalsdeadwood.webs.com/

 

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Dennis M

 

Remember the video of Red Dog driving his 450 up the ramps. That was when I decided ours was going up and coming down via a winch. For you modern day smart owners who do not know, Dennis M was the first to put a smart on the back of a HDT. Red Dog was number 2, Dave was number 3 and I was number 4. Those were the early years.

 

Dennis

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Hi y'all!

 

We want to put our 2015 Smart on the utility long bed of our 3500HD Silverado. It will have to go across the bed just like the pictures you have of your Smarts on your tractors. It'll stick out a couple of inches on each side. :huh:

 

I like the sound of the winch. Someone said Harbor Freight. Does it have to be permanently mounted on the truck?

 

I'm not sure about putting the ramps under the Smart for travelling. There should be enough room at the back of the bed to strap them down.

 

What do you think?

 

Thanks for any advice you have.

 

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Kathy

aka klesmiley

 

And would you be interested in a Smart Car Rally?

http://smartcarnationalsdeadwood.webs.com/

 

remember to allow for a upright arm with a pully on top ,thats to keep the wire from rubbing on the deck edge.A roller on the deck edge with a guide is a alternative .

winch is a really good idea if only for the time the smart has a mechanical issue.

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There are a few other considerations whether driving or winching.

 

  1. You won't have air bags on the truck to lower the bed. Be sure that your ramps have the right matchup or you have short helper ramps at the foot to load/unload on level surfaces.
  2. Putting the Smart on/off an HDT does not make the HDT even jiggle a little bit (air bags down, sitting on frame stops. remember?) On a pickup, even a dually, the attitude of the pickup is going to be dynamically changing as the load shifts inboard/outboard. Don't know how much of a challenge this might be for whatever tethers the ramps to the bed during the process.
  3. My bed is 102" and my 2013 Smart hangs over "a few inches" on either end. I expect it will be a lot more obvious on a pickup, even a dually
  4. Plan for a way to always have solid STOPS in place. It is amazing, even winching, how wrong one's idea of "level" can be in the moment. Just because it strains at the cable going on does not mean when the winch stops, the car stops, too.

Just some things to think about.

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There are a few other considerations whether driving or winching.

 

  1. You won't have air bags on the truck to lower the bed. Be sure that your ramps have the right matchup or you have short helper ramps at the foot to load/unload on level surfaces.
  2. Putting the Smart on/off an HDT does not make the HDT even jiggle a little bit (air bags down, sitting on frame stops. remember?) On a pickup, even a dually, the attitude of the pickup is going to be dynamically changing as the load shifts inboard/outboard. Don't know how much of a challenge this might be for whatever tethers the ramps to the bed during the process.
  3. My bed is 102" and my 2013 Smart hangs over "a few inches" on either end. I expect it will be a lot more obvious on a pickup, even a dually
  4. Plan for a way to always have solid STOPS in place. It is amazing, even winching, how wrong one's idea of "level" can be in the moment. Just because it strains at the cable going on does not mean when the winch stops, the car stops, too.

Just some things to think about.

Thank you hone eagle and Budd for your responses. Yes a lot to think about. The bed of the dually is 108" to the outside of the "pockets." We've trailered it before but the dually bed is so very much higher. We have until next June to decide how to do this. I presume the Smart Car Ramps will fit solidly on the bed or in the pockets. That's something for us to learn about. Nothing is cast in stone at this point! :unsure: I'll keep an eye on this topic to learn more about the ramps.

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I got mine from discount ramps ,they are made to get smart cars up to the height of our decks ,they fold in half and are stored on the deck next to my smart.

They simply rest on the deck edge for loading ,the weight of the car keeps them from moving.

I attached small casters near the hinge to make them easier to move across the deck , then cargo straps secure them in place.

There are as many good ideas for storing them as there are trucks ,the one I like best is under the frame storage - least amount of lifting - they are heavy and awkward ,sadly my configuration will not accommodate under frame storage.

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