Armyret Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Headed out to Mor Ryde in AUG for the suspension install on the 5th wheel. Still have not decided on getting the Nev-R-Lube or lubed wheel bearings. I am going with the Disc Brakes also. ANy thoughts form those with No Lube bearings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I had the original Nev R Lube bearings replaced by MOR/ryde last year after 60K miles and 7+ years as a preventative measure. We had no problems. My recommendation is to BE SURE you do not get Made in China Nev R Lube bearings as I have a few friends have them fail. The ones installed last year had Made in France stamped on them and I specified no Chinese bearings. Greg Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 Lets see, packing bearings every year or not. My choice was Nev-R-Lube and they are still fine after 9 years. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSD_Tweaker Posted July 27, 2015 Report Share Posted July 27, 2015 I think the general consensus is that Nev-R-lube means 10 years of never lubing, then swap them out. That is coming from someone who has had them for 8 years, and has talked to many folks who have serviced theirs after some time. Most were told, or saw 1st hand, their 10 year or old Nev-R-lube bearings were near failure at the time they serviced them. Rick 1998 VOLVO 610 VED-12 @ 425 HP with 13 speed, 22.5" rubber, TC Equipped, single 3.70 drive axle, 193'' WB. REESE, 30K 4 way rocker-hitch, Jordan Ultima 2020. Under-frame mounted Honda 3000 ei, Towing a DRV MobileSuites- 36TK3 with TrailAir Pin Box, a Yamaha Road Star 1700 on deck. http://diesel-gypsy.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Most automobiles have never lube sealed bearings and are good for 100K plus miles. Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I have NeverLubes and check them yearly using the method taught to me by Bob Strohofer at the ECR. So far no problems but now at 10 years so gonna replace at end of this year. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick & Alana Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Carl, can you pass along the test procedure please. I have a 2009 and jack up each wheel annually spin it and try and feel any side to side play in the bearings. Don't know if that's right or wrong Rick and Alana Fulltimers 2018 Newmar Ventana 4037 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1997 Jeep TJ 2009 Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 formerly owned 2000 Volvo 770, 600 Cummins ISX,18 speed autoshift, 14 foot "garage" ET,Jackalopee,MaxBrake,Pressure Pro pro www.rickandalanasgreatadventures.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Carl, can you pass along the test procedure please. I have a 2009 and jack up each wheel annually spin it and try and feel any side to side play in the bearings. Don't know if that's right or wrong Rick, That is basically it. Take the dust covers off and see if any "oil" in caps. Tiny streak is okay but more than that is a problem. Grab the tire and try to wobble, any significant play is a problem. Spin the tire and listen for any grinding or catching not thought to be related to brakes. You are doing it right. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 When they installed my suspension last year they suggested to stay away from the never lube and go with greased bearings Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 On our second trailer with the Nev-R-Lube bearings and no issues. Ken Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyA Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Nev-R-Lube are also known as sealed bearings. My OEM sealed bearings were Lippert. One seized after maybe 2,000 miles and took the wheel and spindle with it. Replaced with Dexter EZ lube axles. Dexter sealed bearings are said to be better but after my experience I want no part of them. BTW - the sealed bearings on my car are considerably larger than the trailer - and the car is only a fraction of the trailer weight. I do not mind annual inspection/greasing of bearings as it gives me piece of mind. Randy, Nancy and Oscar "The Great White" - 2004 Volvo VNL670, D12, 10-speed, converted to single axle pulling a Keystone Cambridge 5th wheel, 40', 4 slides and about 19,000# with empty tanks. ARS - WB4BZX, Electrical Engineer, Master Electrician, D.Ed., Professor Emeritus - Happily Retired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 When they installed my suspension last year they suggested to stay away from the never lube and go with greased bearings Who are "they"? Could it be that "they" are someone who gets paid for yearly servicing greased bearings? Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 At one point in time there were some issues with NeverLube bearings. But that is in the past. There have been no issues that I know of in the past 5 years or more. There may be specific failures of one bearing set, but there does not seem to be a trend. I use the NeverLube. As Mark said, I'd rather not have to find a place every year to have the bearings packed. As a fulltimer that is not an easy thing to do. I've had all types of bearing sets. The oil bath were by far the most problematic and trouble. The NL are by far the easiest to deal with. It is wise to check them every so often as noted above. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick & Alana Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks Carl, last year when I replaced disc pads I left off the chrome covers off the wheels so I could get a better temp. reading directly on the hubs. I check temps about every 3 hours or so of driving. I'll pull the actual grease caps thus year, hopefully I can see some bearing numbers, I may start carrying a set just in case. I should be able to find someone to press them in but probably not have the bearing and seal if in a jam. Rick and Alana Fulltimers 2018 Newmar Ventana 4037 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1997 Jeep TJ 2009 Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 formerly owned 2000 Volvo 770, 600 Cummins ISX,18 speed autoshift, 14 foot "garage" ET,Jackalopee,MaxBrake,Pressure Pro pro www.rickandalanasgreatadventures.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks Carl, last year when I replaced disc pads I left off the chrome covers off the wheels so I could get a better temp. reading directly on the hubs. I check temps about every 3 hours or so of driving. I'll pull the actual grease caps thus year, hopefully I can see some bearing numbers, I may start carrying a set just in case. I should be able to find someone to press them in but probably not have the bearing and seal if in a jam. Rick, They are pricey $158 per cartridge from Dexter. ETrailer carries "Redline" brand for $138 but don't know where they are made. Would just avoid any from China. Also best way to press them in is to cool the cartridge overnight in freezer and then heat the hub immediately prior to pressing. That way the cartridge metal will expand as it warms and seat better. Also important to know that machine shop doing the pressing needs to have an arbor that will fit the outer casing or they will ruin the bearing. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Rick, The part number on my 50mm NevRLube is XC25409-9. The zero could be a 6. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick & Alana Posted July 28, 2015 Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks I'll see what I have before we leave in the fall and when it cools off. Rick and Alana Fulltimers 2018 Newmar Ventana 4037 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1997 Jeep TJ 2009 Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 formerly owned 2000 Volvo 770, 600 Cummins ISX,18 speed autoshift, 14 foot "garage" ET,Jackalopee,MaxBrake,Pressure Pro pro www.rickandalanasgreatadventures.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armyret Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 I knew this topic would create considerable opinions and conjecture. I am going to get two sets of hubs with bearings installed as spares. I do not want to get caught in the Yukon without having what I need. I had lubed bearings on our triple axel and it was my yearly duty to pull, clean and re-install. I never had any problems after about 10K I did tighten two axel nuts about a 1/8 or turn, after using the above method to check for run out or any odd noises. I am hoping the disc brakes and no lube bearings do make the service interval longer. I check tires and wheels at each stop, with a back of the hand on wheel or with an infrared temp gauge. With some of you citing up to 10 years with no problem I believe I will chose the no lube bearings and ask Gary at Mor-Ryde if they are using Chinese bearings. Thanks All. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armyret Posted July 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2015 At one point in time there were some issues with NeverLube bearings. But that is in the past. There have been no issues that I know of in the past 5 years or more. There may be specific failures of one bearing set, but there does not seem to be a trend. I use the NeverLube. As Mark said, I'd rather not have to find a place every year to have the bearings packed. As a fulltimer that is not an easy thing to do. I've had all types of bearing sets. The oil bath were by far the most problematic and trouble. The NL are by far the easiest to deal with. It is wise to check them every so often as noted above. Jack, I assume your were installed with your Mor-Ryde suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 armyret, call MOR/ryde and tell them you will not accept Chinese Nev R Lub bearings, they will get you the bearings you want. They did for me and a good friend. Greg Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 They is Morryde. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lights Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I would only install Greaseable bearing. We had a NL failure at 22,000 mile at 38 months. It ruined the tire, rim, all the brake parts and the spindle. I have pulled horses, snowmobiles, go carts and equipment trailers all over the US, on Greaseable bearings with no problems, we have greaseable bearing now on our RV. Like Carl said you need to inspect the bearing and all the axle parts. Call Bob Strofer and get his input because he has service many RV's and other types of trailer. 812-655-2583 http://www.robertsqualityrv.com/home.html 07 630 VNL Volvo 16 Smart Car 2017 DRV 40KSSB4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 I would only install Greaseable bearing. We had a NL failure at 22,000 mile at 38 months. Curious as to when this happened and who installed the NL bearings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Jack, I assume your were installed with your Mor-Ryde suspension? Yes. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted July 29, 2015 Report Share Posted July 29, 2015 Armyret, you may want to check with Bontragers in White Pigeon,MI. A couple of weeks ago they had Dexter 8k axles with neverlubes and springs for $550.00 per axle. I believe they had the 9/16 studs. The last time I checked on complete hubs, they were $370.00 each. I thought about buying one axle for the spares but I didn't do it......probably should have, though. Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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