Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Got the new valve, and the old one out of the dash. Same issue as some others here that I have 6 port on the old and 5 plus a screw in pushlock on the new. No numbers or marking on the valves line up as to what line goes where. Ex- on the old top row- Red line on left, black on right- Top left on the old valve was marked RES2 Top left on the new valve is Trac Del22 So is there a schematic somewhere? Are the lines color coded- Gren, Red, Black, Orange, Yellow, and something like bleached orange, industry standard or are they a Volvo specific color code? Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Can you see the part # stamped on the old valve? You can go to the manufactures website and they sometimes have the info you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Jim, On mine the hoses were: top left- Orange (has TRPK on hose), middle left -Red, bottom left- faded orange Top right-plugged with black plug, middle right-Green, bottom right- Yellow. My valve is a Haldex KN 20619. The ports have the following written on them: Top left-TRAC22, middle left-RES2 12, bottom left- TRL21. Top right-AUX23, middle right-RES1 11, bottom right- EXH 3. Hope this helps. Will load some pics shortly. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Jim, Here are some pics. They may help. If you have six hoses the black should go in the top right AUX and this should be your trolley valve, the plug in that port just pulls out like a hose. Please save it if you don't need it because I rebuilt my old valve and need a plug. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Alrighty, Thanks to a little help (Roger), and some testing, We got it figured out. The swap was from a Meritor valve to a Bendix. As I said above, different labeling of the valve connections, and not necessary the correct hose colors made things interesting. If anybody runs into this issue I can e-mail the drawings I made, and the sites I found. I went to both Meritor and Bendix and found the relevant schematics, combined that with the industrial standard color coded hoses, hooked it all up and only had to reverse 2 hoses. Not the easiest but if thought thru and I made simple diagrams as I went, it's not a bad job. Unscrewing the layers of dash to get to the valve is more aggravating than the rest. Moving 15-year-old tubing to new positions is interesting, but not impossible. Doing this job in really warm weather helps, using a hair dryer to help relax the tubing helps as well. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Suite, Do you have a trundle brake value on your Volvo? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 One more pic 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Carl, Thanks for the pics, unfortunatly even your vavle labeling is different. If you do a quick google search for Bendix brake valves, hundreds show up, then Haldex, then Meritor, they all cross reference one way or another but it would take a genius to figure it out! Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 Suite, Do you have a trundle brake value on your Volvo? Thanks No, so that is where the black hose came in. Jim, please pm me your drawings and files. I would be interested for possible future needs. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 the Haldex # is usually "molded" into the part, sometimes between the airline ports. Once you get that you can do a better cross reference search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 I will, give me a day or too to clean them up and I'll actually make a file that Mark could put on the HHRV site as well. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 your # should be something like KN20607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 18, 2015 Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 the Haldex # is usually "molded" into the part, sometimes between the airline ports. Once you get that you can do a better cross reference search. Scott, You are right. As I said on Jim's original post, using my VIN# the dealer (and an online parts dealer) wanted to sell me a different valve that was $200 more than the one I had. That's why I just took my dash apart, got the number from the bottom of my old Haldex and went to TruckPro and got the same valve. Wonder if they were trying to sell me a Bendix? 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2015 your # should be something like KN20607 Yes, and it was not the OEM valve. I was actually hoping for a direct replacement, not one I had to figure out. Class 8 parts, $232 shipped. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Please send the info to Mark so it can be in the Resource Guide. That will help someone for sure.... Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 19, 2015 Report Share Posted July 19, 2015 Jack, RandyA already has a write-up and thought it was going to resource guide. If not here it is and maybe Mark can pick it up. Jim's addition would be helpful. http://www.rvnetwork.com/index.php?showtopic=116361&hl=randya#entry758348 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Did you get the valve installed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Yes and works fine. It dumps air quickly on the release instead of the slooow. Truck is holding air better now too. We have another leak I'll tackle at the firewall manifold. Need to buy some air lines first though. If I wiggle them around some the leak stops then over time returns. But there isn't enough line left to clip a half inch off.... some of these suckers are pulled tight and have been so for awhile. The joys of a $19k truck with only 460k miles! Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 RandyA already has a write-up and thought it was going to resource guide. Been on the Resource Guide since 7/21. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted July 22, 2015 Report Share Posted July 22, 2015 Been on the Resource Guide since 7/21. Thanks 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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