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Converting to HID lights


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Here we go again. :)

 

Deep Space Lighting has a very nice Independence Day sale on right now, 20% off their HID kits so I think the 780 needs an upgrade.

 

That got me thinking, which is always dangerous.

 

I would like to upgrade the driving and fog lights too, as the factory install is pretty near as bad as the factory head lights.

 

There seems to be quite a nice kit available to give you HID replacements for 800 series bulbs, which is what I believe is in both the fogs and driving lights.

 

Would this work? And does the upgrade to 50W ballasts automatically give you 50W lights? And they mention that if you go to 50W you are -1000K. That seems to be counter-intuitive, I would expect light output to be 1000K bluer as you would probably be burning hotter. Hmmm. I'm thinking 3K for the fogs, and 4300K for the driving lights. A little yellower sometimes helps a bit in fog.

 

I'm assuming the price below is per pair/set, but maybe not...

 

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/hid-systems/morimoto-elite-hid-system-880-881.html#.VZaeZedNg4o

 

Thoughts?

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Ordered the Dixon kit this morning. I'm just thinking about doing the rest too while I'm at it.

 

I am so over crappy lights in trucks. All the Western Stars and Kenworths I've driven were horrible too despite some being brand new.

 

Shiny polished wheels, but 1960s sealed beams. Lol

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George,

 

Sorry to be so late to the party here. I've looked at upgrades for the fog/driving lights. The biggest challenge for a xenon retrofit there is clearance behind the assemblies. On trucks with three-piece bumpers (which it looks like you have, and most fleet trucks do as well), there's a bumper support that's right on the back side of those lights. There just isn't enough room on most trucks to fit a projector in there, and any HID bulbs in there without projectors will render the lights unusable with any traffic (and not do all that much to help you out).

 

We're getting closer to an upgrade that would use LEDs, that would be shallow enough to fit and do away with mounting ballasts down around the bumper. It's still a ways off, but should be a much better solution.

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Thanks David. What do you think about pulling the stock Driving/fogs and installing the TRS units you mentioned? Could I get them through you?

 

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-headlight-fog-light-housings/morimoto-xb-led-fog-lights-type-s.html#.VZgXDOdNg4o

 

Either that or I will wait for your new kit to become available.

 

Geo

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If you're willing to do some fabrication to mount them, they're good lights. I actually had a chance to drive a car with them last night, and through some pretty heavy rain for 5 hours.

 

I don't have any on hand, but I can get them and pass along a small discount. Contact me directly if you want, and I can ship them with your headlight kit.

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Sounds great! I just sent you an email. The RV is presently at JW's, so a little fabrication should be pretty straightforward.

 

I may also have a set of PIAA 90 Pro XTs kicking around that I will find a home for too. Loved those when they were on my F250.

 

Geo

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George- The link for your lights keeps coming up as malware. Just wanted to check them out and can't access the site.

 

Try trimming off from the pound sign to the end. That's a session identifier of sorts part of their e-commerce system that will eventually (a few hours) go stale: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-headlight-fog-light-housings/morimoto-xb-led-fog-lights-type-s.html

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I've got Davids- Deep Space- bookmarked, I thought you were accessing another site for fog and driving lights.

Correct. Try this. http://www.theretrofitsource.com/complete-headlight-fog-light-housings/morimoto-xb-led-fog-lights-type-s.html#.VZh5NYpHaJI

 

I just fixed the bad link to the fog lights above.

 

David is getting a set for me and we will install everything at the same time.

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Deep Space HID Headlight conversion kit and a set of the Morimoto XB LED 70mm Fog lights are on the way.

 

I also have a set of 25w Vision X 4.5" LED Light Cannons coming but will need to play when I get my hands on the truck to figure out the best mounting. David was very helpful and suggested that using and modifying the existing light housing might be a good starting point.

 

The Light Cannons were a very good price on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CQ453G4/ref=sr_ph_1?m=A1OR8ZNTLJTQHM&ie=UTF8&qid=1436137376&sr=1&keywords=light+cannons

 

Review is here:

 

Feels like Christmas!

 

Geo

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  • 1 month later...

Dixon kit is installed. What a difference. Took less than 2 hours. A longer shaft #1 Phillips would have made life easier.

 

I think I need to replace the passenger side assembly.

 

David, you mentioned a decent low-cost housing but I can't find the thread. If you wouldn't mind posting again I would appreciate it.

 

Thanks.

 

Geo

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Mr. Dixon's "kit" is worth every penny. I'm converting over at the HDT Rally. In fact I'm going to replace the housings totally so my current lights (for Gen 2) will be for sale. They are in decent shape, having been polished out by Gregg. Who does a far better job than I do, at least.

 

That reminds me...I have to get this project "in motion". David, I'll be contacting you shortly.

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Recently drove deep in to the night for the first time with Davids lighting upgrade. Huge difference. I don't drive the HDT much at night but I feel much better doing so now with the updated lights.

 

Only issue I have is really just a inconvenience. When a truck would pass I would use the "pass" button on the steering wheel. I would typically press it several times quickly. Now because of the ballast needed for the lights that is not practical. I actually threw a code once on the DID before I realized what the problem was. So now I just use my Volvo Driving Lights on a forward pass signal. They are wired on a separate switch anyways but my hand does have to leave the steering wheel. I may have to look and see how difficult it would be to fire the driving lights instead of the headlights when the pass button is pressed.

 

Also I used to use the driving lights in conjunction with the high beams. So when a car approached I had to turn both off separately. When the shutter on David's lights open/high beams, I now find I really don't need or want the driving lights on. So now I am back to a single switch which is nice.

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