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Your street legal UTV is not legal in every state?? smart has a/c and heat and can be ridden in any weather??

 

Yep,...only in certain states. From what I've heard,...there aren't many. But, they are fun to drive around on the streets and public backroads.

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Yep,...only in certain states. From what I've heard,...there aren't many.

From what very little research I have done, it seems that there are very few that DO allow it and more that do not. And most of the ones that do limit the roadway type, some limit it to daylight use only, Wisconsin says that each city must pass an ordinance allowing it and then post signs designating each street that allows their usage on that road. No, for traveling, I'll stick with a vehicle that is legal everywhere

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These are street legal everywhere (even in CA as they are CARB compliant, even come equipped with small catalytic converters in the exhaust.) They go 60+ MPH, get 100 MPG, they even can go on trails like a UTV (with appropriate tires), and only weigh 150 lbs each. The best feature is cost - around $1,100 ea. (with shipping), the license and registration are cheap, and they only cost $99/yr to insure - for the pair! Plus, like a UTV they're lots of fun to ride too!

 

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Of course you can't ride them in inclement weather, and the rear basket that attaches to the rack will only carry a single bag of groceries, but then again I can't fit a smart car in the bed of my 3/4 ton truck, nor can I double-tow one behind my trailer. ;) Two of these fit easily in the back of my pickup with room to spare for lots of other stuff like my generator, spare fuel, tools, etc. One of the neat advantages of having a pair of vehicles is both me and DW can go in two different directions at the same time for great versatility too. And if we need to carry a bunch of stuff (or attend the opera) we still have our F-250 LB, Supercab, Diesel which gets pretty good gas mileage (compared to a HDT, not a Smart) of around 17-19mpg avg. (low to mid 20s on the highway) when it doesn't have a trailer holding it back. It's easier to park than even a dually, much less a HDT, which DW could never climb in and out of with her bad knee (that's why we are choosing a TT over a fiver).

 

There's no "right" choice, just another option. Different strokes as they say.

 

Chip

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From what very little research I have done, it seems that there are very few that DO allow it and more that do not. And most of the ones that do limit the roadway type, some limit it to daylight use only, Wisconsin says that each city must pass an ordinance allowing it and then post signs designating each street that allows their usage on that road. No, for traveling, I'll stick with a vehicle that is legal everywhere

Big5er;

 

Out west here, (Northwest). From Washington to Montana down to Arizona/New Mexico ( minus Cal.) With the $170 street kit offered by Rocky Mountain ATV , They are legal in 35mph and under zones (depending on city ordinance) on city streets . So to run to the store or play in the dirt they are legal, in some of the south eastern states also. Most states have 35mph streets that circumnavigate the state.

As to the climate control systems they have better HVAC systems then a Smart could ever have, more hp! A fully enclosed cab is offered by the OEM's and aftermarkets, with glass windows and wipers and defrost.

 

I just put this out there for discussion, but now looking at it from the dollars to cents mode. aka thanks for the prod! I bet the UTV will last longer than a Smart, for one most motorcycle shops can rebuild them. You can get parts for them all. Most are faster than any Smart. Can't take a Smart up a rock strewn road, at speed. Can't haul 1000lbs or pull 2000lbs with a Smart. Haven't seen a 4wd Smart yet. Should I go on?

 

Your probably right, should sell the UTV and get a Smart? Not.

 

As I stated in another post, it might not work for others. But it's perfect for us!

 

Cheers Bro,

 

If your ever out West give me a hollar!

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Sushidog;

 

I have had just about every kind of bike on the bed of my truck, including "real" Honda 70's. Auto (her's) and clutch (mine), my honest opinion if I'm gonna get hurt messing around on a motorcycle at my age. It's gonna be a new modern one.

 

Just my 2cents,

 

By the way my street legal Yamaha 2008 WR450 will go along as well.

 

 

Curt

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I am guessing that you are considering a UTV because you need four drive off road capability. If so, take a look at a Suzuki Samurai. I had my Yamaha Rhino next to a Samurai and they are about the same dimensions (length, width, wheel base, track). The Samurai weighs in at about 2,000 pounds. If you shop wisely, you can find one in great shape, with many upgrades. There is a cult following for these little cars. Also, there is a kit that will allow engine swapping a 1900cc VW turbo diesel engine into them. But, be wary of the smog laws of your state, before swapping engines!

 

Jim

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Chip: Those are nice and I bet a lot of fun.

Curt: I like your thinking especially about what might be more fun more often and if getting boofed, doing it while on a nice vehicle.

With the smart though, you already got your burial vault with you, so that part might be easier.

You ever notice that in the toter you can creep up to 80 MPH and not even notice then you get close to the ground, like in

the smart, and you think your going 100 when it's really 40mph. :)

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There are UTVs and then there are UTVs. My RZR I dont consider at all for driving on the street although I can legally but its the sports car type of UTV. Then you can buy a farm utility construction type like a Kubota that comes with an enclosed cab, diesel engine , heating and AC , possibly air horns and a cow catcher. All they do is get in my way....lol.

 

No UTV would work on any hiway so I dont use one for a toad...I have my 4x4 pickup that I can put the RZR on and then I have options...I can drive the truck 100 miles and offload the RZR and still have 150 mile range with the RZR. Or I can use just the truck or just the RZR.....I like my setup.

 

I guess it all comes down to our needs and expectations.

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Big5er;

 

They are legal in 35mph and under zones (depending on city ordinance) on city streets

Most are faster than any Smart.

 

If they are faster than a smart, why are they only legal on 35mph streets and not allowed on highways?

My smart is legal on every road, in every state.

True, my smart won't go rock climbing but that wasn't the topic of your first post.

 

You UTV is not street legal in Texas and I also want to tow my kayak trailer. It would take me hours to get anywhere with my kayaks if I had to stay on 35mph roads rather than being able to tow on the a highway with my smart. To go from my current location to a kayak launch in Highlands, Texas it is 6.2 miles and takes me about 10 minutes to get there using the interstate. Since there are no service roads crossing the San Jacinto River on I-10, Hwy 90 or FM 1960 (all with speed limits 55 or greater), to get there on 35 mph roads the shortest route is 71.6 miles and will take an hour and 10 minutes. I doubt seriously that you could even find 35 mph roads that would get you from Houston to San Antonio or Dallas. Thanks, but I'll use a car for a car and a UTV for a UTV.

 

Like Jimalberta said " it all comes down to our needs and expectations". It seems to me that you are comparing apples to oranges.

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The laws allowing road use of UTV's are confusing and changing. In Colorado some counties allow it but the state doesn't. So these vehicles are allowed on some county roads but not state roads. It is very difficult to know which is which. I sometimes just take the RZR and then use the HDT as needed for road use. In Arizona I have been told that an Arizona license is required for road use but most are not bothered.

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Let's see, smart has anti-lock brakes, stability control, traction control, eight air bags, substantial roll over and/or impact protection, heat, AC, will run 80-85 MPH all day and is legal on any road in the US.

 

Any UTV have all of those?

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Let's see, smart has anti-lock brakes, stability control, traction control, eight air bags, substantial roll over and/or impact protection, heat, AC, will run 80-85 MPH all day and is legal on any road in the US.

 

Any UTV have all of those?

On other tidbit nobody's mentioned"...............smart is cheaper.

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Thanks all, discussion brings enlightment across the board.

 

As I stated ones choice is not necessarily everyones choice.

 

I have to correct a few misgivings, they are cheaper depending on the make, model and application even with various options.

Myself I have never bought a vehicle I planned to wreck or because it was safer than the next, if I did I would not ride any 2 wheeler!

If I want to put big miles under my belt, 100 or more? That's what the HDT is for, alot more comfortable than a UTV or Smart.

I am really only referring to the major brands of UTV's in this discussion, so reliability is not an issue.

 

Once again, thanks to all!

 

Curt

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