SuiteSuccess Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Another site that may have what you need. http://usalanyards.com/plastic-buckles.aspx 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I have not used them nor do I know if they are OEM for the Volvo. Sorry was just giving you a site to search. Maybe someone can post some measurements of the buckles. I do not have access to my truck for several days but if no one replies I will try to get some pictures and measurements for you to see if some of these might work. . BTW McMaster-Carr is just kind of a favorite "go to" site for various parts. OK. Gotcha. Yes, I am all to familiar with McMaster. All of the hardware for this project and most of my others comes from there. They have everything, but they kill you with the $10/order shipping fee. I try to add as many parts as I can to the order before submitting it to justify the shipping cost. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 What about reversing the plate/mounting bracket at the front. That would flip the mounting point to the top? Then with the tv come off the back of the tv at 45 or 60 degrees going up toward the ceiling then forward to the front mounting point. I know what I mean but not sure if anyone else does. That would buy a lot of headroom. I have previewed this lets see if I can make a record of not having to go back an edit. That will be a first. Roger, I appreciate you trying to help, but I haven't been able to understand what you're suggesting. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 Another site that may have what you need. http://usalanyards.com/plastic-buckles.aspx That is a good one. I could always just replace both sides of the buckle. It would be easy enough, and I could probably get a better, higher capacity, buckle this way. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted January 14, 2015 Report Share Posted January 14, 2015 I was afraid of that. I will try to find a better way to explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I think what Roger was trying to say is take the plate you have mounted by your overhead shelf above the cb area and rotate it 180 degrees so that your horizontal bar Mount is on top instead of on bottom effectively raising in 3-4 inches. Then where that horizontal bar attaches to the TV since it is at a higher elevation he is suggesting come back down at a 45 or 60 degree angle to your lower mount. This will raise the horizontal bar some with minor modifications. Dave 2005 Freightliner Century S/T, Singled, Air ride ET Jr. hitch 2019 46'+ Dune Sport Man Cave custom 5th wheel toy hauler Owner of the 1978 Custom Van "Star Dreamer" which might be seen at a local car show near you! Check out http://www.hhrvresource.com/ for much more info on HDT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 I think what Roger was trying to say is take the plate you have mounted by your overhead shelf above the cb area and rotate it 180 degrees so that your horizontal bar Mount is on top instead of on bottom effectively raising in 3-4 inches. Then where that horizontal bar attaches to the TV since it is at a higher elevation he is suggesting come back down at a 45 or 60 degree angle to your lower mount. This will raise the horizontal bar some with minor modifications. Dave Ah, I understand now. However, I connected the support brace to the bottom of that plate on purpose. The bottom of the shelf is much more sturdy than the top of the shelf wall. The bar being in the way is not a concern of mine. It will only be there when we're driving. It literally pulls out in about 10 seconds, to be stored in the overhead shelf. I do appreciate the suggestion, though. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted January 15, 2015 Report Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks Stardreamer, I knew what I meant but I am no Winston Churchill or Eric Severeid with Hinglish. I checked out the idea on my own 730 today and it makes a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 Very important modification went on today. Hoorah! I also dropped Willy off to have the #2 axle removed. Going down to a 230" wheelbase. Should be ready on Thursday next week when I get back from Moab. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skp51443 Posted January 17, 2015 Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 You really need a nice frame for that plate and some spiffy stainless screws. First rule of computer consulting: Sell a customer a Linux computer and you'll eat for a day. Sell a customer a Windows computer and you'll eat for a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2015 You really need a nice frame for that plate and some spiffy stainless screws. I agree. I may end up building one to put it at just the right angle. Using the stock mounts angles the tag forward a little. The whole truck will get a good cosmetic upgrade soon including parts replacement and paint work on the front bumper. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I'm committed now. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Looking good! 2005 Freightliner Century S/T, Singled, Air ride ET Jr. hitch 2019 46'+ Dune Sport Man Cave custom 5th wheel toy hauler Owner of the 1978 Custom Van "Star Dreamer" which might be seen at a local car show near you! Check out http://www.hhrvresource.com/ for much more info on HDT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Is this a mid or short, single? If it's a mid, does the shop need to drill all new frame holes or are these frames already set up for these kinds of modifications? 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Is this a mid or short, single? If it's a mid, does the shop need to drill all new frame holes or are these frames already set up for these kinds of modifications? It is considered "mid". It will be a 230" wheelbase. They will have to drill all but a handful of the holes. I believe some of the original holes line up just by coincidence. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 It is considered "mid". It will be a 230" wheelbase. They will have to drill all but a handful of the holes. I believe some of the original holes line up just by coincidence. Can I assume that singling "short" would be less expensive? OTOH, you'd be giving up a lot of deck space to do so and many would consider that a significant "cost". 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 The cost difference in singling short is the time and materials to drill the holes. IMO, it is not a significant savings in the grand scheme of things. You should design the wheelbase to meet your needs. Not to minimize cost. Again, JMO. A 780 looks a little funny to me singled short. As it does singled long. From a looks perspective Mid is best, followed by long. MY opinions only. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john lowry Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Thanks for keeping us updated,looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I picked up Willy from the truck shop yesterday. I can't believe how much better it rides with one axle versus two. The turning radius is also much better than I expected it to be. It is still not as tight as my F450, but with the hitch mounted behind the axle, it will probably maneuver the trailer better than the F450. The truck shop did a good job with the single. The vibration I had turned out to be from a slightly bent front driveshaft. I had that rebuilt, all u-joints replaced and the rear bags replaced. I'm going to try and register it Friday if I can get my ducks in a row before then. I'm going to get the bed rails cleaned up and painted this weekend. Then, I'll start on designing the air ride platform for the hitch. *hopefullyAre you guys normally leaving your bedrails un-cut or are you trimming some off of the end to fit your bed/box? Seems a little long right now. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Seems long when naked, but remember you will need minimum 11 feet (12 would be better) to do this in a turn. That's from the BOC with the wings removed or even further back if you want to keep the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted February 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 Seems long when naked, but remember you will need minimum 11 feet (12 would be better) to do this in a turn. That's from the BOC with the wings removed or even further back if you want to keep the wings. That is 11' from BOC to the center of the kingpin pin, correct? "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted February 4, 2015 Report Share Posted February 4, 2015 I singled to the mid position and they ADDED 18" to my frame. Don't cut it. BTW: Looking good !! MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 That is 11' from BOC to the center of the kingpin pin, correct? Sort off, Smart with mirrors folded is around 5 1/2 feet and a fifth is 52 inches, add another 8" of clearance for BOC to Smart and Smart to fifth, another 5 feet. 10 1/2 feet at absolute minimum if you want to drive and turn very "carefully". Then there is the question, where and how you are going to store the ramps (might have to stretch things here or there. If you will install a "real bumper", you will need a piece of "real" frame to do that too. If you are planning on 11 feet from BOC, then the wings would have to go to park the Smart on the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I singled to the mid position and they ADDED 18" to my frame. Don't cut it. BTW: Looking good !! I think that's the first time I have seen your truck. It looks great. Very nice setup. Who built your bed? Did you do a 230" wheelbase? It looks a little longer than mine. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmzero Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Sort off, Smart with mirrors folded is around 5 1/2 feet and a fifth is 52 inches, add another 8" of clearance for BOC to Smart and Smart to fifth, another 5 feet. 10 1/2 feet at absolute minimum if you want to drive and turn very "carefully". Then there is the question, where and how you are going to store the ramps (might have to stretch things here or there. If you will install a "real bumper", you will need a piece of "real" frame to do that too. If you are planning on 11 feet from BOC, then the wings would have to go to park the Smart on the deck. I'm very partial to the wings. I would like to keep them if possible. As for the ramps, I plan on pulling a toy hauler perpetually, so I will also have the storage portion of the trailer. I appreciate all of the measurements. I'm going to pull tape on it this weekend and see where things shake out. "Willy Mammoth" - Volvo 730, Sold Heartland Cyclone 4000 Toy HaulerT-Minus 26 years and counting to being a full timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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