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  1. After Millenicom folded, I had 25G a month internet and 5 lines (2 phones, two tablets, one hotspot) on Verizon and my monthly bill was around $450. I use a lot of internet for research, but don't do much streaming so I decided to try to cut my costs without reducing capability. Since I travel overseas a lot, I would have one month of no usage, then double up the next, hence the high data plan. I first switched to a T-Mobile plan with rollover. I got a 14G plan with rollover for $75 a month, dropped my Verizon program to 12G and my monthly Verizon bill dropped to $220. Phase one: saved some $150 a month, and I had a better program. BTW, T-Mobile has consistently worked well for me, even in the Texas back country. Most of the time, it is faster than my Verizon hotspot. And free streaming adds another capability. Last week, I bought a Nexus 5X phone (on sale: $199 with a Project Fi plan). Now, I only pay for actual internet usage, and my monthly phone bill is $20 (per phone). The unique feature that so far has worked very well is that the phone will find and log into open networks, so much of the time you have no data usage. I called my sister in Holland, excellent phone connection, and it cost $0.01 per minute. And I can use phone and data in 120 foreign countries, although overseas it is at 3G speeds. Next month I will be in Europe, so I can test the phone and data coverage there. More importantly, this summer I will be mostly in Colorado, really looking forward to see it it all works there as well. If so, I will complete my switch from Verizon (and still keep the same phone number, too). If the switch goes through, I will have my T-Mobile hotspot ($75) plus two phones ($40 plus $30 data) dropping my internet and phone costs to $145 plus tax, which I think is acceptable. One note about the Nexus 5X, it has a superb fingerprint reader, even better than the Apple and Samsung. I also use LastPass to encrypt all my passwords, and the fingerprint reader makes it super simple to find and log into any site with super secure passwords. Maybe my long research and willingness to experiment will help someone else trying to cut phone/internet costs. == John
  2. We have the following devices in our motor home: 1 - Lenovo Yoga, W10 1 - Apple MacBook Pro, latest OS 2 - LG tablets, Android 1 - iPad, iOS9 1 - iPhone, iOS 9 1 - Samsung S6, Android 1 - Nexus 7, Android 1 - Apple TV, who knows So we were gone for 2 months in the summer, everything except LG tablets, Lenova Yoga, iPhone and Samsung phone turned off. These were updated as we could while we were overseas. When I got back I turned my Verizon system back on. During the next 2 days, I used 3Gig of data just to update all the software. That does NOT include the 6G update to the latest MacBook OS! I actually deleted Pages, Numbers etc. on the iPad as they also used over 2Gig to update just those programs. Wasn't using it anyway. I am going to turn off all automatic updates wherever possible, go get some coffee at Starbucks, and use their data as much as we can. A side note, Verizon does not have a rollover data so I had 30G of monthly date that expired (15G per month) so the month I got back I was low on usable data very quickly. I have added a T-Mobil plan with rollover, works real well so far, and I'll do a side by side comparison for a month to see how it all shakes out (T-Mobil is much cheaper than Verizon, and has rollover). So far, it has worked well even in iffy areas, == John
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