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  1. Congratulations! Thanks for sharing your experience. David
  2. Jim, thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad you found the original post helpful! David
  3. Hmm, maybe, but I'm not sure that's what the DPS office is referring to. The Texas Driver Handbook has four appendices: A (Glossary of Terms), B (Driver License Offices), C (Study and Review Questions for Class C Operators) and D (Fees). None of those look like they have much to do with the Class A and B test questions, although it certainly wouldn't hurt to review Appendices A and C, which are the only substantive ones. It's been more than a year since I took the test, but I do seem to recall that there were some questions that were not covered in Section 14 of the Commercial Driver's Handbook - stuff about "lighting, signage, trailers, and oddball vehicles" as @JCTex said. I managed to muddle through those by guessing and common sense and still passed, so I never followed up to find out where the referenced "appendix" actually was. Maybe JCTex can tell us where he found the additional information to study for his second try at the test?
  4. I've heard other references to the handbook's appendix, but as far as I know there isn't one. The latest revision of the handbook is dated June 2014 (you can find it here), and it does not contain an appendix. It's possible that earlier versions of the handbook DID contain an appendix, and maybe some of the DPS materials still have references to it.
  5. Congrats, Duane. I'm glad you found the information helpful. Thanks for sharing your experience. David
  6. Well, technically you're correct. It's the vehicle that's exempt from needing a CDL in the appropriate class to operate it, not the license. As this page says, "Class A, B, C, and M driver licenses are issued to individuals who are exempt from obtaining a commercial driver license (CDL) or who are not required to obtain a CDL." But "exempt" is what the DPS offices generally use to refer to the four classes of licenses that aren't commercial drivers licenses. But the DPS call center in Austin specifically told me to request a "Class A Exempt" so that the local DPS offices would understand I wasn't looking for a Commercial Class A. That's also what the DL office where I took my test called it. Really, it's a matter of semantics--the office where Centexrider took his test should have known what it was. Considering how misinformed they apparently were on everything else, I don't think the terminology was the problem. That said--if you go into a DPS office and they don't know what "Class A or B Exempt" means, try calling it a "Class A or B license for a non-CDL exempt vehicle", which is the terminology used on the Form CDL-2 and on the relevant DPS test sites web page. (Note that not all DPS offices administer the exempt tests, nor do all DPS offices that give CDL tests. So if Centexrider was at a site not on the list linked above, I wouldn't be surprised if they're not familiar with the rules.)
  7. It took me a while, but I finally got around to updating the original post with the new information reported by Rob (Second Chance) in early May. If anyone has new information or a different experience to share, please do report it here so that we can share it with everyone else and I can keep the FAQ current. Thanks.
  8. Rob, thanks very much for doing that research. That is indeed new information since we took our test last year. So now it looks like the Texas DPS has made the process of getting a Class A or B Exempt even more confusing than it was before, because this is now a third list of testing sites to consult! It's a broader list than the 25 CDL locations, but it does not include all DPS driver license offices. Sheesh. In the end though, it should make it more convenient for RVers to take the test, since most won't have to travel as far to get to an office where they can take the driving test. When you go on Wednesday, it would be great if you could confirm with someone there that the right way to schedule the driving test online at one of the designated offices is to select "Driving Test - Regular Car / Pickup Truck" as the requested service (which is what it sounds like you did). The only other option is "Driving Test - Commercial Vehicle". It would be much clearer if they'd add a third option for RVs and other non-commercial vehicles. Good luck on your test, and please do report back. Assuming this all pans out, I'll update the pinned post with the new instructions. Thanks again for sharing.
  9. Rob, I'm afraid the El Paso DPS office gave you only partially correct information. Hopefully you'll see this before you go for your test on Wednesday. If you show up at that office with your rig for a Class C test, I don't think they'll be able to give you the Class A Exempt test. (Note that according to https://www.dps.texas.gov/DriverLicense/documents/DL-95pg2.pdf, the El Paso Northwest CDL testing location is underlined, indicating that it's a temporary location; the address is different from the El Paso Northwest DPS office.) She was correct that you can't schedule the test in person at the DPS office. You have to do it by email, and you find the email address online. The instructions to do that are in my original post. However, I see why you're confused, because none of the El Paso locations on the Search for Driver License Offices page contain the necessary information. (You're looking for a note that says something like, "This location offers Commercial Skills test. To schedule a CMV skills test email ____@dps.texas.gov.") Before you schlep down to that DPS office with your rig, I'd strongly suggest that you fight your way through the phone tree and talk with someone at the DPS call center in Austin to get the correct scheduling email address for the El Paso CDL location. Yes, it's time-consuming and painful...they don't make it easy. But once you do get someone on the phone, they are pretty knowledgeable and should be able to provide it to you. As an alternative, you could try going in person to the El Paso Northwest CDL testing location at 8799 South Desert Blvd, Anthony, TX 79821, and ask them how you schedule the test. They don't have a phone number, unfortunately. If you do go on Wednesday to the "regular" DPS office and they are in fact able to administer the Class A Exempt test, please do report back here on the forum, because that would indeed be new information and a change from what I was told last year.
  10. Hmmm. Yes, that's a bit of a Catch-22. We just drive a lowly F-450, so we didn't have that problem, LOL. Someone here must have experience with this kind of situation, though. Have you tried asking for help in the HDT Forum here on RVNetwork? I think there's also an HDT group on Facebook that's pretty active--not sure what it's called, but I think it's something like Heavy Duty Haulers. I bet someone in the RV community with an HDT would help you out. You might also contact Glyn Carson for advice. He's an extremely knowledgeable RV Driving School instructor, but also a very active Escapees member (not to mention a great guy). He was an "Ice Road Trucker" and currently hauls his rig (also a Space Craft) with a HDT. I don't have his email address, unfortunately, but you may be able to find him through Escapees or this forum (Diane, his wife, is "dlcarsonak" here). Also, Jack Mayer (http://www.jackdanmayer.com - he's also contributed to this thread several messages back) drives a HDT, and is an expert and frequent community contributor. I think he lives in Texas, too, so he'd be familiar with the relevant laws. David
  11. You're right that you won't be able to rent a Class A rig without the appropriate license. You'd have to find a friend who has one and would lend it to you for training and the test. However, if your only reason to want to get the license before you buy your rig is your concern about passing the vision test, I would simply visit any DPS driver's license office and see if they'll allow you to take the vision and colorblindness test for screening purposes. If they won't do that by itself, then you could submit your application for the Class A Exempt in the office. When they take the application, they'll give you the vision test. If you don't pass it, you could just stop there; if you do pass it, then you'd take the 20-question knowledge test. After that, you have 90 days to take the skills test, which would give you enough time to get your rig and practice for the test. For training, don't waste your money on a community college course--that will be a CDL course and way more than you need. Instead, contact RV Driving School (http://rvdrivingschool.com) and get one of their instructors. He'll come to you, it will cost you just a few hundred dollars for a couple days of instruction, and it will be tailored specifically to RV driving. I highly recommend them. Finally, I wouldn't worry about driving to Livingston for the skills test. If you're already in the DFW area, take it at the Dallas South Megacenter. They knew exactly what they were doing for the Class A Exempt. So to summarize, I'd approach it in this order: 1. Get a vision screening to ensure that's not an issue. 2. Buy your rig so that you can practice in it. 3. Get instruction from RV Driving School in your own rig, and practice until you feel you can pass the test. 4. Take the skills test in your own rig. Good luck!
  12. Jack, I didn't find anything online that says you can renew by mail only every other time if you're out of state. What you're saying is true for in-state renewals, but it looks like if you're out of state, they don't require you to renew in person just to have a new photo taken.
  13. I have updated the original post with information on expiration and renewal of the Class A or B Exempt license, including instructions for out-of-state applicants.
  14. Barb, thanks for pointing that out. I too thought we were going to have to renew in person. I'll add this to the main post for future reference.
  15. I have now updated the original post with information from our driving test two days ago. It wasn't nearly as bad as we thought it might be, and we both passed easily, even though our backing-up maneuvers were weak (for safety, we always work as a team with one person outside the rig, communicating with the driver by walkie-talkie--but you are not allowed to do this on the test). We took our test in Dallas, and they were completely knowledgeable about the Class A Exempt requirements. As TrapperBob said above, the test is not nearly as hard as you might think, and the examiners are not out to fail you--they just want to be sure you can safely drive your rig. So get legal and go get your Class A or B license if it's required to drive your rig!
  16. Thanks for the kind words. I really appreciate it. And pinning the post would be a great help for others searching for this info. I was thinking about turning this into an article for the magazine, once I take the skills test and can finish the post. Although it may have to be a multi-part story...it keeps getting longer and longer! David
  17. We just completed the process of getting our Class A non-commercial upgrades in Texas. It was difficult to figure out what to do and where to do it, so I thought I'd document all the information I can in the hope of helping someone else. Some of this info has already appeared in various threads on this forum, but I'm trying to consolidate and update it. All of this information assumes that you already have a current Texas Class C (passenger vehicle) operator's license. All information below is either from the linked websites or from a supervisor at the Texas DPS office where I took my knowledge test, or from my own experience at the DPS offices, unless otherwise noted. Updated to include information on the new Non-CDL Class A and B Exempt Vehicles Test Sites as of May 1, 2017. Updated to include new requirement as of April 18, 2018 for drivers of towables to take the CDL Combinations Knowledge Test in addition to the Texas CDL Special Requirements Test, along with relevant practice information. Updated to include information on the new DPS system for scheduling driving tests online as of July 18, 2018. Updated as of July 29, 2020 to include information on REAL ID document requirements, Improving Texas Drivers (ITD) course requirement, superseding of Form DL-43 by Form DL-14A, duration of license validity (now eight years instead of six), and license renewal fee. Updated March 29, 2021 with new link for the driving test appointment scheduling system. Updated May 9, 2021 with the new name of the Special Requirements knowledge test. Updated December 24, 2022 to clarify that the ITD course is not required if you already hold a Texas driver's license. This FAQ is also the basis for an article on the Escapees RV Club Blog: Guide to Texas Driver’s License Requirements for RVers (August 17, 2020). GENERAL QUESTIONS Am I required to have a commercial driver's license to operate my personal RV? No. Operators of recreational vehicles driven for personal use are exempt from obtaining a CDL. What license do I need to operate my RV for personal use? It depends on the weight of your rig, including your trailer or toad if you have one. The license classifications are difficult to parse, because they all refer to each other, so it's easiest to understand them in table form. In this table, find the GVWR of your motorhome or tow vehicle in the first column, the GVWR of your trailer or toad in the second column, and the combined GVWR of both vehicles in the third column. The last column shows the class of license you will need. The actual weight of my motorhome/tow vehicle/trailer is less than the weight thresholds above. Do I still need a special license? Yes. All the regulations use the maximum weight for which the vehicle is rated (the gross vehicle weight rating, or GVWR). Your vehicle's actual weight (gross vehicle weight, or GVW) does not matter. Example: we tow our 16,250 pound (actual and rated weight) fifth wheel with a Ford F-450. The F-450's actual weight is about 9,000 pounds, so the combined actual weight of our entire rig is only about 25,250 pounds. Thus, if the regulations used actual weight, we'd only need the standard Class C driver's license. However, the F-450 is rated for 13,300 pounds; added to the rated weight of our trailer, our combined GVWR is 29,550 pounds. Because that's over the 26,001 threshold, we need a Class A Exempt license. What happens if I don't have the proper class of license? Technically, you could receive a citation for driving without a license. Penalties vary from state to state, but in Texas that's a misdemeanor carrying a fine of up to $200 for a first offense. The penalties can be much higher if you're also driving your rig under the influence, or you're cited in combination with another offense. Although you're unlikely to be stopped by a law enforcement officer just to check your license, if you're stopped for some other infraction, you'll probably get the driving without a license citation too. Several RVers have reported that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers are familiar with the regulations regarding Class A and B Exempt licenses as they pertain to RVers, and will enforce them. The other possible consequence arises if you're involved in an accident: your insurance company could theoretically deny your claim if they discover you were driving without the correct license. Is my Class A or B Exempt license valid outside of Texas? Yes, it should be. Although state laws vary, many states have a requirement similar to those in Texas. In general, you are not allowed to hold a driver's license in more than one state--in fact, this is expressly prohibited for commercial drivers, and a CDL from one state is honored in all the others. The same should be true for a Class A or B Exempt. Some RVers--particularly those towing their rigs with medium- or heavy-duty trucks, which look more like a commercial vehicle--carry a notebook in their vehicle with copies of the relevant Texas rules, along with their registration papers and proof of insurance, specifically to show a law enforcement officer who may not be familiar with the law. How do I upgrade to a Class A or B Exempt license? It's a two-step process: first, submit an application and pass a knowledge test on a computer, then take a skills (driving) test. It is a good idea not to try to do both of these on the same day, because you have to schedule the driving test in advance; if you fail the knowledge test, you will have to reschedule the driving test and may have to wait a few more weeks for an appointment. APPLICATION AND KNOWLEDGE TEST Where can I apply for the Class A or B Exempt license and take the knowledge test? You can do both of these at any Texas Department of Public Safety Driver's License Office in the state. You do not need to take the knowledge test at the same location where you take the skills (driving) test. What should I bring to the DPS office when I go to take the knowledge test? (updated as of July 2020) Proof of U.S. citizenship (or lawful presence), identity, Social Security registration and Texas residency (use the Texas REAL ID Document Check Application to determine exactly which documents you need) Current, unexpired Texas driver's license Corrective lenses (eyeglasses or contacts) if you use them for driving $11 (cash, check or credit card) for the application fee If you want to be super-prepared, you can download and fill out Texas DPS Form DL-14A, Texas Driver License or Identification Card Application , and Form CDL-2, Texas Class A or B Driver License Application, Non-CDL Exempt Vehicles. If you don't do these in advance, ask at the information desk for the necessary forms for a Class A/B "Exempt" license upgrade. What will happen once I get to the DPS office? First, you'll be asked to fill out the two forms listed above if you didn't do them in advance. When it's your turn (expect to wait in line), you'll give the forms and your current driver's license to the DPS representative. You will have to take a test for visual acuity and colorblindness. You'll also have a new photograph taken, and you'll submit your thumbprints. You'll pay the $11 fee. Finally, the agent will set up a computer in the testing area for you to take the knowledge test. What knowledge test must I take? (Updated as of April 2018 and May 2021) The knowledge test everyone has to have to take is called the Texas Commercial Rules Test (formerly known as the Texas CDL Special Requirements Test). On the computer, it's called the Texas CVO Knowledge Test. Note that you do NOT have to take the CDL General Knowledge Test, nor do you have to take the CDL Air Brakes Test, even if your rig has air brakes. In addition, if your rig is a combination--for example, a truck towing a trailer--several members have reported that the Texas CDL Combinations Test is now also required, effective April 18, 2018. What is on the knowledge tests? (Updated as of April 2018 and May 2021) The Texas Commercial Rules (formerly "CDL Special Requirements") Test covers the material found in Section 14 of the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Driver's Handbook. Much of this is relatively obscure regulations and rules (for example: motor vehicles manufactured after what model year must have turn signals? Answer: 1959). The Texas CDL Combinations Test covers the material found in Section 6 of the Handbook. The material in the rest of the Handbook is NOT included. (Editorial comment: I think every RVer should read Section 2 of the Handbook, plus Section 5 if your rig has air brakes. Even though these are not on the test, they contain a lot of valuable information that will help you be a safer driver.) How many questions are on the knowledge test? There are 20 questions on each of the knowledge tests. What is a passing score for the knowledge tests? 70%, meaning that you must answer at least 14 questions correctly. Note that this is a lower threshold than the 80% required for the CDL General Knowledge Test. Are the knowledge tests timed? Yes...well, sort of. You are given 480 minutes (8 hours) to complete each test! In reality, if you've studied, it should take you only 15-30 minutes. Are the knowledge tests "open book"? No. You are not permitted to have or consult any written material during the test, nor can you use your cell phone. Doing either is an automatic failure. How can I practice for the knowledge tests? (Updated as of April 2018) CDLStudyBuddy.com offers a practice test that very closely resembles the Commercial Rules (formerly known as Special Requirements) Test that I took in 2016. It's helpful, but a few of the answers are wrong; you'll spot these easily, however, if you've studied Section 14. The same site offers a practice test for the Combinations Test. Note that there are many sites that offer practice tests for the CDL General Knowledge Test, but that is not the test you're taking, so don't waste your time on them--be sure your practice test is for the "special requirements" test. If I have to take both knowledge tests (Commercial Rules and Combinations), must I take them both on the same day? (Updated as of April 2018) No. You can take them on different days and even at different DPS offices. SKILLS (DRIVING) TEST How long do I have to complete the skills test? You must pass the skills test within 90 days from when you paid the application fee. If you don't, you have to start the application process over. Where do I take the skills test? (Updated as of May 2017) Unlike the knowledge test, which you can take at any DPS office in the state, only certain DPS offices administer the skills (driving) test. Those offices are listed on the DPS (Non-CDL) Class A and B Exempt Vehicles Test Sites page. The sites are listed in alphabetical order, not grouped geographically, so you will want to scan the entire list to find the office closest to you. Should I drive to Livingston to take the skills test? (Updated as of May 2017) The Livingston DPS office is a CDL Skills Test location, and for some years many RVers have preferred to take their skills test there because the office tested so many RV drivers and thus was very familiar with the test requirements. However, Livingston is not listed as a (Non-CDL) Class A and B Exempt Vehicles Test Site, presumably meaning that you cannot take the test there any longer. You might be able to take it by making an appointment through the CDL testing email address, but that's not guaranteed. The good news is that with the larger number of testing offices, they should all know how to administer the test properly. Because you can take the test again if you fail it, I would suggest that you take the test at the CDL Skills Test location that is most convenient to you. Do I need an appointment to take the skills test? Yes, an advance appointment is required. Can I schedule my skills test before I take my knowledge test? Yes, and this might be a good idea because it may be two or more weeks before you can get an appointment. But remember that you must pass the knowledge test before you can actually take the skills test. How do I schedule my skills test? (Updated as of March 2021) After you pass the knowledge test, you can register for the driving test in the Texas DPS appointment scheduling system. You’ll log in with your driver license number (if you already have a Texas license), date of birth, and last four digits of your Social Security number. Once logged in, go to the Road Skills section and click the "RV" button, and fill out the requested information to book your appointment. Within the appointment scheduling system, you can also cancel and reschedule appointments, check for and change to better dates and times when they come available, and search other offices for better appointments. Users report that this system works well, and includes real-time availability that's updated as soon as someone else cancels an appointment. What is the new ITD Program? (Updated as of July 2020 and December 2022) If you don't already hold a Texas driver's license, you’ll need to complete the new Impact Texas Drivers (ITD) Program, a free online video course about the dangers of distracted driving, before you take the skills test. Upon completing the ITD Program, you’ll be issued a certificate of completion, which you must bring with you to your skills test. You must take your skills test within 90 days of completing the ITD Program. When must I arrive at the skills testing location? The instructions say to arrive at least half an hour early to complete paperwork before the test. We did that and proceeded to sit in the testing lane for 35 minutes. If you've already done all the paperwork before taking the knowledge test, there is really nothing else for you to do before the skills test. But, it never hurts to be early. What should I drive for the skills test? Drive your own rig. If you usually tow a toad behind your motorhome, you are NOT required to bring it for the test. The one exception is if your toad, when combined with your motorhome, bumps you into a higher licensing class than the motorhome alone would. This can happen only if your toad has a GVWR over 10,000 lbs. (unlikely with most passenger vehicles) AND either your motorhome alone or the combination of both vehicles has a GVWR over 26,000 lbs. In this case, you would need to bring your toad connected for towing, but be sure to tell the examiner that your combination can't be safely backed up more than a few feet because of the risk of damaging the toad. Wait--might I get a citation for driving my rig to the test without the proper license? This is not an official answer, but other RVers have reported that this is simply not an issue. One person was told by the DPS office, "we are licensing, not enforcement". With so many RVers ignorant of the Class A/B licensing requirements, the DPS staff is likely to just be happy you are trying to do the right thing. I wouldn't lose sleep over it. In our case, the examiner obviously saw that we had driven our own rig to the test center, but she said nothing about it. Is the Class A or B Exempt skills test the same as the CDL test described in the Texas Commercial Motor Vehicle Driver's Handbook? No! This was the biggest relief for us. The CDL test is a rather intimidating, three-phase test that consists of a detailed pre-trip inspection, parking maneuvers and on-street driving, and the applicant must pass each phase of the test before proceeding to the next phase. The Class A or B Exempt test, in contrast, is much more similar to the test you took when you first got your driver's license for a passenger car--except that you're driving your RV. The driving portion is administered in a single phase, and you must score at least 70 points to pass. Because the parking maneuvers are part of this single phase, you can pass the test even if you fail your parking maneuver--something not possible for a CDL applicant. What should I bring to the DPS office when I go to take the skills test? Your current Texas driver's license Eyeglasses or contacts, if you're required to wear them for driving Proof of liability insurance Most recent registration receipt (of course, also be sure your current registration sticker is on each vehicle) Most recent safety inspection report (Updated July 2020 and December 2022) Your ITD Program completion certificate (if you don't already have a valid Texas driver's license) The test examiner will ask to see each of the documents above. Note that if you are towing a trailer, you need to have proof of insurance, registrations and safety inspections for both your tow vehicle and your trailer. It's a good idea to have these neatly organized in sheet protectors in a notebook--not just for the test, but also if you're ever stopped by a law enforcement officer--and to keep them updated. Will I have to demonstrate a pre-trip inspection of my rig? No. However, the examiner will inspect your vehicle to ensure each of the following are working properly: Headlights Front turn signals & emergency flashers Tail lights Brake lights Rear turn signals & emergency flashers Horn If any of this equipment is not working properly, or if you're missing current license plates (front and rear), windshield wipers, rearview mirrors or safety belts, your vehicle is not legal to drive. You will receive a courtesy warning, and will not be allowed to take the driving test. For this reason, check all of these items yourself before going to take your test. Do I need to have any emergency equipment on board (such as a fire extinguisher or reflector triangles)? No. Although these are required for commercial vehicles, and it's a good idea to carry them on your rig, you are not required to have them for the skills test. Can I have a passenger in the vehicle during the test? The examiner will ride in the front passenger seat with you. Nobody else (like your spouse) is permitted to ride along. What will I be graded on during the test? The examiner will tell you that you will be graded on four areas during the test: vehicle control, observation (including turning your head to look in your mirrors and blind spots), how you position your vehicle in the driving lane, and signaling turns. He or she will also remind you that you are responsible for the control and safe operation of your vehicle, and that if you cause an accident or break any laws, you will fail the test. This is the time for you to ask any questions of the examiner, as conversation is not permitted during the test itself. What backing maneuvers will I be asked to do? During the "off-street" portion of the test (which happens first, before the on-street portion), you'll be asked to perform one of the following maneuvers in a course marked with orange cones in a parking lot: Straight-Line Backing: backing your vehicle about 60 feet in a straight line between two rows of cones without touching or crossing over them (this is what I was asked to do) Offset Backing: backing into a space that is to the left or right rear of your vehicle. You will drive straight forward to a point that the examiner designates. From that position you must back the vehicle into the opposite lane until the front of your vehicle has passed the first set of cones without striking the boundary cones. (This is what my wife was asked to do.) Parallel Parking: You will drive past the entrance to the parallel parking space with your vehicle parallel to the parking area, and then back into the space without crossing front, side or rear boundaries marked by cones. You are required to get your entire vehicle completely into the space. (Other RVers have reported being asked to do this maneuver at some DPS offices.) You are not allowed to use an outside helper or "spotter". And, unlike on the CDL test, you are not allowed to exit your vehicle to check its position. You must use your mirrors instead. If you have a back-up camera, you may have it on, but don't rely on it too much--the examiner wants to see you using the mirrors as your primary reference. (I had points deducted for over-reliance on the camera, as well as for backing up too slowly.) You are allowed to pull forward to clear an encroachment or get a better position, although if you do this excessively, expect a points deduction. What will I be asked to do during the "on-street" portion of the test? After the "off-street" portion, the examiner will direct you onto an adjacent road. The examiner will instruct you to turn left or right when needed, and will also tell you when to change lanes. The directions are specific, so listen carefully. Many directions will be preceded by "When it's safe to do so...", as a reminder that you are responsible for safe operation. You'll drive around mostly secondary and neighborhood roads. You're graded on control, observation, positioning and signaling in each of the following maneuvers: Starting Stopping Changing lanes Merging into traffic Use of lanes Yielding right of way where required Approaching corners Traffic signals and signs Left and right turns (at least three of each) Be sure to come to a complete stop at intersections with the front of your vehicle behind the heavy white line, and then pull forward if needed to see into the intersection. Also be sure to observe applicable speed limits. Don't drive too slowly, either; my wife had points deducted for driving on neighborhood streets at only 10-15 mph, but I stuck to 20 mph which was apparently OK. Finally, check your position in your lane frequently, using your wide-angle mirrors; the examiner will be watching this closely. How long will the test last? Start to finish, the skills test will last about 20 to 30 minutes. Yes, it's that fast. What happens after the skills test is over? The examiner will summarize your performance, tell you if you passed, and give you a copy of the test results. If you passed, the examiner will collect your driver's license and ask you to wait inside for a few minutes, after which he or she will give you back your license with the top cut off, along with a temporary license printout. You must carry both with you when driving until you receive your replacement plastic license in the mail about two weeks later. EXPIRATION AND RENEWAL OF YOUR LICENSE For how long is a Class A or B Exempt license valid? (Updated July 2020) According to the Texas Driver Handbook, a Class A or B Exempt driver's license is valid for eight years--or more specifically, until your birthday in the eighth year after your license was last renewed--just like a Class C license. Does upgrading to a Class A or B Exempt license reset my license renewal date? No, apparently it does not. Your new Class A or B license will keep the same renewal date as your Class C license had. In my case, I had about 4 1/2 years remaining on my Class C, and that's what I have on my Class A Exempt as well. Can I renew my Class A or B Exempt license online? No. Because you must re-submit Form CDL-2, Texas Class A or B Driver License Application, Non-CDL Exempt Vehicles, each time you renew, you must do your renewal in person at a DPS office, unless you are outside the state and can meet the requirements for out-of-state renewal by mail (below). Note that you can renew your license anytime within the one-year period before it expires and keep the same expiration date, so if you are visiting Texas anytime during this period, the easiest way to renew is to just walk into a DPS office and do it in person. What are the requirements to renew my Class A or B Exempt license by mail if I'm outside the state? You can find the entire (and rather lengthy) list in the Out-of-State/Out-of-Country Renewal Packet, but the major requirements are: You are a US citizen domiciled in Texas, Your existing license expires in less than one year and has not been expired for more than two years, You are less than 79 years old, and Your vision, physical, or mental condition have not changed in a way that affects your ability to operate a motor vehicle. How do I renew by mail if I'm out of the state and meet these requirements? The specific requirements to renew by mail are explained on the Out-of-State Renewal or Replacement page of the Texas DPS website and in the Out-of-State/Out-of-Country Renewal Packet. Basically, most applicants will need to complete and submit the following: Out of State/Country Application (Form DL-16) Copies of two acceptable documents from different companies or agencies containing your name and Texas address, OR a notarized Texas Residency Affidavit (Form DL-5) Explanation For Eye Specialist (Form DL-63), including results of a vision test conducted by an eye specialist or authorized driver license personnel from another jurisdiction Texas Class A or B Driver License Application, Non-CDL Exempt Vehicles (Form CDL-2), which must be notarized since you will not be signing it in person at a DPS office A check for the required fee ($32.00 as of 2020) All of the forms listed above except for the Form CDL-2 are contained in the Out-of-State/Out-of-Country Renewal Packet.
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