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1 hour ago, sandsys said:

My error. I thought 19QTH stood for 19', queen bed, toy hauler.

Linda

Me too and I wish..  My last toyhauler was 31' total and 6 less feet doesn't sound much shorter.  This guy with a 19QTH says he would take it up cumberland pass.

25 minutes ago, sandsys said:

If 19' is too long, I doubt you will ever find anything that works for you. But, now that I think of it, you never said it needed living quarters. I would think it would be easy to find a shorter toy hauler if it didn't need living quarters.

Linda

It's actually 25' total length.  Whats odd is I cant find any difference between it and the nobo 19.1

I enjoy cool alpine settings. Not wide open deserts.  And the roads to my favorite places are narrow dirt roads like cumberland pass road. 

I was unaware that forest river builds a 7' wide toyhauler called the IBEX 19QTH.   Without slides, good..  But it is on the long side when going around the hairpins on cumberland pass.

19 minutes ago, sandsys said:

The weight and low clearance.

Thanks.  I guess I should have searched my old threads.. 🤣  Four years later I miss my featherlite more than ever, and still haven't replaced it.  😂

Hello folks.

What has prevented you from traveling to your most remote offgrid campsites? The height of your rig, or the width? I seem to be stuck on the width being a bigger factor and I cant find the correct size cargo trailer from my needs. Simply put, I don't want external fenders, or a trailer that's eight feet wide.. That right there puts me in a pickle, and I usually stop searching because I'm frustrated I can't find a 7 x 16 narrow track trailer.. But then it seemed the gods had listened to me and sent me the Imperial Outdoors XR22. OK it's not exactly 7 feet wide, but wow, until I saw the price of $142K. That's 10 times what I sold my featherlight toy hauler for..  

Anyway, how do people feel about height vs width? Many people have suggested a pop top camper, which would be much narrower than my 97 CTD, but I need to have a toy hauler and I really like having a deck when I set the ramp level.  

Thanks 

On 9/3/2019 at 11:45 AM, noteven said:

A walking beam works nice to prevent all the weight of both wheels ending up on one wheel through a ditch and it keeps weight 50/50 whether the trailer is level or not. The smoothest trailer I’ve towed with the little KW in the last couple years was a rented 36 foot beaver tail flatbed. It had tandem dual wheel axles on a 84” walking beam spread with no suspension besides correctly inflated tires.

I’m thinking on how a guy could do this on a small enclosed sometimes off highway garage trailer vs single axle pothole pogo stick or bounce-a-matic spring or rubber ride.

Walking beam would be great, but since there arent any available, leaf also has built in anti roll bar characteristics, unlike torsion or IS. 

22 hours ago, Darryl&Rita said:

Given the answers you got in the Boondocking section, and your vision of the terrain you intend to cross, I'd probably set up with slipper springs.

Build for heavier than expected, to gain some lifespan. At any point in time, you may have the weight of the whole side on one axle/spring set. Be aware that slipper springs can get noisy, that's why they're not more popular. As well, the front bushing handles all the torque of axle articulation, so they can wear faster. You'll also have to keep an eye on the slipper end, for wear.

In all seriousness, most of the time, trailers get left while the road is still decent, for a reason. The size and weight you're talking about is well over that of a typical "Expedition" trailer.

Thanks Darryl&Rita.. 

Can you tell me the advantage slipper springs have over shackle springs?   Seems to me, the shackle adds side load strength because there are two bolts instead of one with slipper..

Hello people!

I was wondering if there is a better tandem set up then I'm about to mention, short of independent suspension.

I want to install two 7k 8 lug straight axles (to use trailer spare for both trailer and truck) but use 4000# leaf springs because the trailer is only 7x16 and might weigh 8K wet.  The reason is,  I'm envisioning crossing many washed out ruts and gullies, creek crossings and baby head size boulder's along the way in colorado, so I need to prepare both axles to see the majority or all of the weight occasionally when one axle drops into a low spot.   The equalizer will be important and the best Ive found so far is the morryde CRE3000, but I doubt any equalizer will prevent loading one axle with most of the weight traveling on forest service roads. And then venturing off to find a secluded camp spot could become very rough.

I found another equalizer from Lippert called the Centerpoint equalizer.. It uses air bags instead of rubber.   Ive also read I should consider slipper leaf springs..

Does this sound like a good plan?  I know some of you would suggest torsion axles, but Ive read dirt gets into the rubber and tears it up and also, why do most of the serious off trailers use leaf spring?  I'm guessing so that it can be repaired instead of replaced like torsion would require.

Suggestions?

Thanks!

1 hour ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said:

Hit the "Quote" plus sign and it will post what was written in the comment box.  

The only thing I would be concerned about with running 2 7k axles is the weight you are carrying isn't enough for the suspension to work.  That's assuming that you are going to use the 7k springs.  

I'm going to mix and match 4k springs on 7k axles .. 

Ive heard I should consider slipper leaf springs..

2 hours ago, TLRam1 said:

Sounds interesting, I am in for the comments. You may want top post this up in General though to get more responses.

Thanks TLRam1.   Can I double post like that?

Ive read and seen how people reserve primitive sites..   They squat.

I watched a site that looked like it was taken with a tent and a lawn chair, but no one was there for a few days but then they showed up on the weekend.

Heck of a way to hold or reserve a primitive spot.. 

Good morning people!

I was wondering if there is a better tandem set up then I'm about to mention, short of independent suspension.

I want to install 7k 8 lug straight axles (to use trailer spare for both trailer and truck) but use 4000# leaf springs because the trailer is only 7x16 and might weigh 8K wet.   I'm envisioning crossing many washed out ruts and gullies, creek crossings and baby head size boulder's along the way in colorado, so I need to prepare both axles to see the majority of the weight when one axle drops into a low spot.   The equalizer will be important and the best Ive found so far is the morryde CRE3000, but I doubt any equalizer will prevent loading one axle with most of the weight traveling on forest service roads. And then venturing off to find a secluded camp spot.

Does this sound like a good plan?

Suggestions?

Thanks!

My Shurflow 2088 started to leak around the head in May 2014 after about 10 years of fulltime use, but not using the pump all the time. We were in Twin Falls, ID. at the time and headed to Alaska and I rode down the road to Bish's RV, who advertises a big RV parts department. Well the "parts guy" told me that all we have is the 4008 pump as you can't get the head for the 2088. Of course I took his word very lightly but did get a 4008 as not wanting to play games on the way to Alaska. Saved the 2088 just "in case". I forget most of the time but have run across numerous RV parts at boat shops. Don't know what your problem is with the pump but don't give up.

Thanks for that.

That inspired me to reconsider another shurflo. So I called them and told them mine hadn't quit yet , but I wanted another shurflo 2088-403-144. They told me it was discontinued and said the 4008 revolution series is the replacement but the bolt pattern is different. I asked why she didn't recommend another 2088 series pumps so the bolt pattern was the same? She again recited the exact same thing.. "We recommend the 4008 series"

Do you ever feel like your talking to a brick wall? Or a automated phone line, but its a person?

I must admit my fuse has been short lately, but after hearing that I told her I just decided to use another brand and hung up..

So I'm no closer to making a decision.. lol

I guess a better title for this discussion would have been.. "Which pump brand has a proven design they stick with and offer parts for"

I know it sounds lazy.. But I want a direct drop in obtainable replacement pump when it comes time to replace!

Sort of like the simer Mini-Vac Utility Pump. We use them at work and the design hasnt changed as long as I can remember.

Thanks

The one we were most satisfied with was called a "revolution" (I don't remember the part/model number). Went through 4 of the Surflow 5.1 gpm

variable speed pumps in 2 years before Surflow told me that the 5.1 wasn't intended for fulltime use!

Ron

Thanks. Pretty sure your revolution is the 4008 series I haven't heard many bad reviews about. Except the fact shurflo changes design allot and doesn't support parts for allot of good pumps needing them! Like my discontinued shurflo 2088-403-144

Does Flojet or Aquatec practice the same type of tactics?

Hello.

I would like to have a backup water pump because I'm cautious.

I see my shurflo 2088-403-144 isn't available anymore and have read the 2088-554-144 is the replacement.

Before I order it, should I consider a variable flow, or shurflo 4008 series pump ?

Thanks