Larry Gude

Thought about that and I would like that I am not double towing. But, I don't think it would offer enough room and storage. A 40' 5th wheel toy hauler loses 12-14' to the garage which is fine as my intention is to use it as an extra room when set up, park the bikes outside. A 40' C or A toy hauler loses the garage space plus the cab space. Plus, if the truck needs to be in the shop for a few days, the house has to go with it.

Hi John, Are you saying the WW (and most of the big name haulers) can handle a Jeep loaded inside or are strong enough to double tow? That seems like an awful lot to ask of the ones I have looked at, garaging inside. But, I have not looked at them in a comprehensive fashion so, I don't know. The thing I keep going around in circles with my self is using the tow vehicle to get around in once the trailer is set up OR having that extra vehicle. Jack, and others, comfortably use their HDT to get get groceries, run errands, etc and I am fine with that. And I do like the idea of the truck being an overnighter 'mini' RV. And, of course, love the idea of having the power to climb any grade at speed AND stop it. And, frankly, it's just cool as all get out to be riding long miles in a big, comfortable truck. However, I also like the idea of having a dually 4 wd pick up as the tow vehicle where I can throw some dirt bikes in the back and get out in the bush where the HDT ain't gonna be able to go, to go riding, day trips which I could not do with a jeep. Unless I had a trailer for the Jeep. Which then adds another substantial piece of gear to consider. My intent is to set up shop for 3-6 months at a time and live and explore areas, thoroughly, before moving on so, I am thinking that perhaps the day to day plus's of having a dually pickup for non towing purposes might make up for it's shortcomings as a tow vehicle vs. the HDT. I would absolutely lean the other way if I was moving every other week and intending on putting many thousands of miles on per year. Now, that said, I would also like to spend some time 'following' events. For instance, if I was escaped right now, I would be following the motorcross circuit from track to track. Last week, they were in SoCal, this past weekend, NorCal and next week off to Colorado, then Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Upstate New York, Maryland, then ending in Utah. THAT would virtually demand an HDT. So, that brings me back, again, to an HDT, have the dirt bikes on the deck along with a lot of the tools, etc, 5th wheel toy hauler, carrying/towing a jeep plus the street bike (another 800 pounds), figuring out how to store a small trailer that could handle a couple of dirt bikes OR, perhaps, look at a garaging a, say, Tacoma or even a F150 pick up. A Jeep is damn near 5,000 pounds. a full size 4wd pickup isn't much more and a Tacoma looks like it is a little less and certainly weighs no more than a Jeep. Double towing presents it's own set of challenges which brought about the idea of garaging that vehicle, be what it may so, it's good to know that, potentially, it might not be a cu$tom thing to be able to garage it if WW and other major 5th wheel toy haulers could handle the weight. I apologize for this endless meandering but, I need to get my plan set so I can narrow in and start piecing it together. Thanks!

That sounds like a reasonable way to make enough to work part of the year and play part of the year. How does what you can earn stack up against the costs of using your own truck?

Hi JD, are you talking about using your truck for work, towing someone elses cargo and also using it to pull your trailer? Being a full timer who makes ends meet as a truck driver, finding local work as you move about the country? That sounds like it might be a good idea, too.

Wow! Way outside my budget and I KNOW I ain't boondocking anywhere NOT on asphalt!

DP = Diesel pusher? The goal is to have a 'car', ideally a jeep, to get around locally OR the dually pick up. The Ford you mentioned, on paper, or the Dodge, seem like possibilities. Bikes in toy hauler.

Okay, thanks.

I thought about the jeep crosswise on the truck, as per the smart but, obviously, at 12 plus feet, that ain't gonna fly. Thus, the heavy duty garage as, per your comments on your site, I don't wanna tow double. So, the issue at present; a dually p/u, daily driver, smaller (much smaller?) coach or the HDT, mega garage and put the bikes on the truck where the smart car would go.

Street and dirt. Presuming on off sight gig, I'd absolutely ride as much as possible to and from. Heck, I even grocery shop now, as much as is practical, with the big bike. Dog food days, not so much. LOL And that's the thing; Mr. Mayer's site says they use their HDT (IIRC) for a daily driver and I have no real problem with that as long as my mind isn't wondering and I head into a drive through. But, a dually seems like much more practical assuming a pick up bed. Which leads to my next question; for a larger 5th, is a pick up bed not the done thing? Thanks for the welcome! I just got news today that may well put me on the road within a year so, I intend to be a pest!

Good lord! So, basically, I need to hire you as my project manager.

Thanks. What might I consider the limit, trailer wise, for toy hauler boon docking in a non jeep mother ship model? This is my dilemma; I KNOW I wanna do some boon docking, good sized garage (12 foot+) but, maybe that's just not realistic with a 4wd dually pick up? The Jeep would not be a 4 door nor new. From some Jeep forums, I got 4,000# as a decent ball park for a basic rag top jeep with moderate size tires and not outfitted for Mad Max. Thanks! (love your site, by the way. TONS of good info!)

Hi folks, Lurking to try and piece together my plan. Intend to get into full timing in the not too distant future, spending 3-6 months in a place at a time, move with the season, the mood or work. Plan on doing camp work or whatever I can find that is interesting and fun and ZERO stress. I need a lifestyle change and think I am ready for it. Plan 1 was a toy hauler (motorcycles) for the extra room and pull it with a 350 4wd dually to be used as work truck/grocery getter when weather or need wouldn't allow bike riding. Plan 1.1 became something bigger when I learned that a 350 (3500) what have you, simply ain't enough truck for a good sized 5th wheel. So, now, I am trying to evaluate MDT v HDT and having a stout enough garage (New Horizons says they can do it, easy) to carry a jeep or similar as 'the car' and put the bikes on the truck as per the smart car's I have seen. I don't want fancy. Just durable and reliable. Plan on boondocking at times which was part of the reason for a 350/dually 4wd pick up but, again, unless I seriously down size, that does not sound like it is remotely feasible. In any event, hello all and trying to read y'alls every word!