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Looks like this hasn't seen much in the past 3 years. Am looking for advice more current. What's the best one for 2018?

 

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Rod

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If you are on Windows 10, then use the Windows Defender. It is the best on that platform. I cannot speak to Linux platforms though I do use a few of them a little bit like Mint and OpenSUSE but not too seriously.  My experience with Kaspersky is that it turned into a CPU hog and I still have had problems with Nortons interfering with product installations on occasions.  Just my experiences. FWIW.

 

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Rod,

For Windows 10 here is the current best protection for 2018. Remember that this not only my opinion and that of others, but what I use.

Number one rule!! Never run any A/V program with another with one exception. Do not install any new A/V until you use uninstall any A/V installed using that company's own uninstaller as A/V programs have hooks deep in the system that allow them to work before/after Windows boots. The Windows uninstall does not remove them and the leftovers can aid malware because of conflicts with calls for files at boot that are no longer on your machine.

There are lots of fake uninstaller websites out there so if you can't tell which one is the right one just post here and I'll give the link to the genuine and safe uninstaller.

Run Windows Defender and allow it to update whenever it is opened or asks.

Buy Malwarebytes Premium and run it alongside Defender. That is the only exception. Never try to run any other two. That includes Windows Defender and any other.

Malwarebytes premium has saved me several times recently from the latest scourge, cryptojacking, the bot nets that jump on your computer and use your electricity and CPU/Ram running your system to 100% for bitcoin mining.

Malwarebytes jumps in and says it did not allow that website because it is malicious. You could override that but to be blunt, that is just plain stupid. Even an old dependable website may have been taken over to drop malware as a driveby.

I have Malwarebytes premium for that reason, the premium version active scans all the time. The free version is great after you are infected in detecting and cleaning most of the time. I say most because the malware today will turn off your A/V programs but make them appear to be running.

I bought lifetime Premium licenses for five machines years ago when XP was the then current Windows version. Now they sell annual licenses and no longer any lifetime licenses. They have upgraded it free numerous times and daily updates makes it the cleanest. fastest, and lightest on resource use. Scans don't even slow my systems down I just work while they run. There some folks here that took my advice and bought their lifetime licenses. Even better, when I get a new computer I just remove Premium from the computer I am going to replace and then add the license info to the new one after I install the current free version with the premium trial. It will not run on another before removing from the current. MY license codes and ID numbers are on the CDs I bought and saved to a master file on all computers and one USB Flash/thumb drive kept in the car.

Do not run Malwarebytes free or premium with any A/V except Defender.

I do use several tools from other vendors that are free like Norton eraser.

So even if you never used it on a new computer, get the uninstaller from that vendor and remove it before you install Malwarebytes.

Here are the uninstaller links for the major vendors:

Norton: https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v60392881_EndUserProfile_en_us

AVG: Follow the instructions in this article http://support.avg.com/SupportArticleView?urlname=How-to-uninstall-AVG to run the AVG remover tool and download this https://share.avg.com/steam/PSP/AVG2017/AVG_Clear.exe to run AVG Clear too. This tool will help with removing antivirus component of AVG 2017 and its traces.
Open tool
User Account control - click "Yes"
Windows safe mode - click "No" (we cannot recommend use the tool in safe mode, because there is a problem with compability)
Choose installed version (AVG Free, AVG Internet Security)
Click "Uninstall"
Click "Restart computer".

Kaspersky removal tool: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/kaspersky_products_remover.html

Major Geeks is a completely trustworthy download site that does not add Possibley Unwanted Programs or spyware like other ones do. Here are all the uninstallers for A/V and others, look yours up al[alphabetically here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortname/uninstallers.html

If at any time you have just used the Windows uninstaller to remove any A/V get the tool and run it again for any A/V you uninstalled without their removal tool.

Questions?

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On 7/2/2018 at 1:14 PM, RV_ said:

Rod,

For Windows 10 here is the current best protection for 2018. Remember that this not only my opinion and that of others, but what I use.

Number one rule!! Never run any A/V program with another with one exception. Do not install any new A/V until you use uninstall any A/V installed using that company's own uninstaller as A/V programs have hooks deep in the system that allow them to work before/after Windows boots. The Windows uninstall does not remove them and the leftovers can aid malware because of conflicts with calls for files at boot that are no longer on your machine.

There are lots of fake uninstaller websites out there so if you can't tell which one is the right one just post here and I'll give the link to the genuine and safe uninstaller.

Run Windows Defender and allow it to update whenever it is opened or asks.

Buy Malwarebytes Premium and run it alongside Defender. That is the only exception. Never try to run any other two. That includes Windows Defender and any other.

Malwarebytes premium has saved me several times recently from the latest scourge, cryptojacking, the bot nets that jump on your computer and use your electricity and CPU/Ram running your system to 100% for bitcoin mining.

Malwarebytes jumps in and says it did not allow that website because it is malicious. You could override that but to be blunt, that is just plain stupid. Even an old dependable website may have been taken over to drop malware as a driveby.

I have Malwarebytes premium for that reason, the premium version active scans all the time. The free version is great after you are infected in detecting and cleaning most of the time. I say most because the malware today will turn off your A/V programs but make them appear to be running.

I bought lifetime Premium licenses for five machines years ago when XP was the then current Windows version. Now they sell annual licenses and no longer any lifetime licenses. They have upgraded it free numerous times and daily updates makes it the cleanest. fastest, and lightest on resource use. Scans don't even slow my systems down I just work while they run. There some folks here that took my advice and bought their lifetime licenses. Even better, when I get a new computer I just remove Premium from the computer I am going to replace and then add the license info to the new one after I install the current free version with the premium trial. It will not run on another before removing from the current. MY license codes and ID numbers are on the CDs I bought and saved to a master file on all computers and one USB Flash/thumb drive kept in the car.

Do not run Malwarebytes free or premium with any A/V except Defender.

I do use several tools from other vendors that are free like Norton eraser.

So even if you never used it on a new computer, get the uninstaller from that vendor and remove it before you install Malwarebytes.

Here are the uninstaller links for the major vendors:

Norton: https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v60392881_EndUserProfile_en_us

AVG: Follow the instructions in this article http://support.avg.com/SupportArticleView?urlname=How-to-uninstall-AVG to run the AVG remover tool and download this https://share.avg.com/steam/PSP/AVG2017/AVG_Clear.exe to run AVG Clear too. This tool will help with removing antivirus component of AVG 2017 and its traces.
Open tool
User Account control - click "Yes"
Windows safe mode - click "No" (we cannot recommend use the tool in safe mode, because there is a problem with compability)
Choose installed version (AVG Free, AVG Internet Security)
Click "Uninstall"
Click "Restart computer".

Kaspersky removal tool: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/kaspersky_products_remover.html

Major Geeks is a completely trustworthy download site that does not add Possibley Unwanted Programs or spyware like other ones do. Here are all the uninstallers for A/V and others, look yours up al[alphabetically here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortname/uninstallers.html

If at any time you have just used the Windows uninstaller to remove any A/V get the tool and run it again for any A/V you uninstalled without their removal tool.

Questions?

Thanks, lots of info there and most I may not understand. I'm going to allow my Mcafee to expire and then uninstall using their uninstall. I know I had windows defender before, but am not sure I have it now. Will look into malware bytes. Thank you again. Rod

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You can't uninstall Windows Defender, only disable it when you install another real time scanner. Defender is there. Just uninstall Mcafee and it will take over. Then get Malwarebytes premium instead of paying for Mcafee. Together they are as good as security gets.

You'll do fine, it becomes clearer when you do it.

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On 7/1/2018 at 7:32 PM, Pat & Pete said:

Maybe a good VPN ?

I have been using OVPN and like it.  Whatever you do, be sure to choose one you pay for.  The free ones have drawback.

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RV/Derek,  I just want to thank you for your excellent advise.  I have been running Defender and Malwarebytes Premium for years now without running into any problems.

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56 minutes ago, VtChris said:

I have been using OVPN and like it.  Whatever you do, be sure to choose one you pay for.  The free ones have drawback.

Even the paid for VPNs have their drawbacks , just fewer . ;)

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VT Chris, YW!

Sorry been offline fixing a dead diesel and getting a new tiny Scamp set up for a city search for where we want to move to (Stix n Brix.)

VPNs are good for privacy for sure, but regardless of paid for or free they have a performance hit because of adding the extra jumps and routing.

But I am looking into VPNs too now because of the recent repeal of Net neutrality. Our Internet providers nopw have legal permission to look at all our traffic and sell any they want to third parties without even asking permission. They need regulation as we will soon see. The regulation will not come until the Internet providers start blackmailing some big politicians with their own emails they sold to a political party.

VPNs have become a necessity. I was reading this earlier in the year: https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C2817%2C2403388%2C00.asp?path=zpc-15478-mpc-100a1a&creative=78065390289150&device=c&dps=1&keyword=78065489991047&source=s

http://top5-vpn.com/?utm_source=B

I am at a loss. https://vpn-services.bestreviews.net/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-openvpn/

I would like the privacy of an open VPN, but I do not want a performance hit from it. And they all have some slowdown even if it is claimed imperceptible. On some of those sites above after a few seconds I was offered two year deals on OVPN of $2.75 a month so if one is sure and has tried a particular vendor's VPN, and think it's the best then look for one of the deals at review websites.

I do appreciate the lead on it.

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7 minutes ago, RV_ said:

VT Chris, YW!

Sorry been offline fixing a dead diesel and getting a new tiny Scamp set up for a city search for where we want to move to (Stix n Brix.)

VPNs are good for privacy for sure, but regardless of paid for or free they have a performance hit because of adding the extra jumps and routing.

But I am looking into VPNs too now because of the recent repeal of Net neutrality. Our Internet providers nopw have legal permission to look at all our traffic and sell any they want to third parties without even asking permission. They need regulation as we will soon see. The regulation will not come until the Internet providers start blackmailing some big politicians with their own emails they sold to a political party.

VPNs have become a necessity. I was reading this earlier in the year: https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C2817%2C2403388%2C00.asp?path=zpc-15478-mpc-100a1a&creative=78065390289150&device=c&dps=1&keyword=78065489991047&source=s

http://top5-vpn.com/?utm_source=B

I am at a loss. https://vpn-services.bestreviews.net/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-openvpn/

I would like the privacy of an open VPN, but I do not want a performance hit from it. And they all have some slowdown even if it is claimed imperceptible. On some of those sites above after a few seconds I was offered two year deals on OVPN of $2.75 a month so if one is sure and has tried a particular vendor's VPN, and think it's the best then look for one of the deals at review websites.

I do appreciate the lead on it.

I didn't get offered any deal from OVPN (darn), but paid for one month to see how I like it.  I am in my third week and am happy with it.  Granted I am using it over a captive portal in a campground.  My ping right now is 190 MS and download speed 2.78 Mbps.  And the cg is full.  Good enough for my uses.  It does take about a minute each time I log in as I have to log into the campground and then connect the vpn.  I have a friend who knows his stuff and he also recommended airVPN.  You can goggle a comparison, they both have their pluses and minuses.  Guess it depends on your needs.  Mine are minimal (mostly to be anonymous like you said).

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