GlennWest Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Have not heard these discussed on here. Reading up on them and they use about half the wattage to operate than the standard Multiplus. Also read they are phasing out the Multiplus and replacing with this one. Price is basically the same. At least the one I researching. 5000/48/230v Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcussen Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Looks like 4000 watt max output and 230 volts only. Charger side also needs at least 187 volts to charge. Magnum 4448 output both 120 and 240 volts at 4400 watts total and can charge from the 120 volt source. Not sure what you mean by using half the wattage to operate. Quote Foretravel 40ft tag 500hp Cummins ISM 1455 watts on the roof, 600 a/h's lithium in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Where as the 48/5000 multiplus uses 21 watts, believe that was the number, the multiplus 2 uses 11 watts. I am after 240v and these look right. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcussen Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, GlennWest said: Where as the 48/5000 multiplus uses 21 watts, believe that was the number, the multiplus 2 uses 11 watts. I am after 240v and these look right. 10 watts is not much load when you look at the big picture, 1/4 amp at 240 volts. So you will not have any 120 volt loads? Will you always have a 220 volt source for the Multiplus 2 charger incase your solar cannot keep up and you need to charge the batteries? My Magnum is setup for 110 volt charging from a portable generator if solar doesn't do it.Looks like the Multplus two uses 18 watts in idle conditions. https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/MultiPlus-II-to-MultiGrid-and-MultiPlus-comparison-EN.pdf Edited April 7, 2020 by jcussen Quote Foretravel 40ft tag 500hp Cummins ISM 1455 watts on the roof, 600 a/h's lithium in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) Yes, I have 120 loads. I need two 120v out of phase with each other. I can get this with either of these units. Just the multiplus 2 uses less watts. I will be using two of these. Have 21k leaf batteries. Know 10 watts not much but they same price Edited April 7, 2020 by GlennWest Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcussen Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 You will have to explain how you will get 120 volts off an inverter that has only 230 volt output, and you will still need 230 input if you want to use it as a charger. I see it has two legs and neutral ac outputs, but would assume it would state 120 volt output if it was capable of it. The Magnum does advertise it is a 240/120 volt inverter, Not sure why the Multiplus two only claims 230 volt output. https://www.victronenergy.com/upload/documents/Datasheet-MultiPlus-II-inverter-charger-EN.pdf Quote Foretravel 40ft tag 500hp Cummins ISM 1455 watts on the roof, 600 a/h's lithium in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Well, I will call them about it . The Multiplus will do 2 120v legs in the 230v unit when changed to 60hz according to Victorn. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcussen Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 24 minutes ago, GlennWest said: Well, I will call them about it . The Multiplus will do 2 120v legs in the 230v unit when changed to 60hz according to Victorn. Good idea, don't forget the charging side, I also have a 21 kw leaf battery and it is not as much as it seems, You probably will need to charge sometimes, and you will need a 220 volt power source for the inverter/charger. If you only have a 110 volt generator or camped at 30 amp service, you will be out of luck. Quote Foretravel 40ft tag 500hp Cummins ISM 1455 watts on the roof, 600 a/h's lithium in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 Well, mine will be where shore power will be for charging only. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcussen Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 You are good to go, I spend a lot of time at 30 amp parks and at home with only a 30 amp plug, so needed 110 volt charging ability. Quote Foretravel 40ft tag 500hp Cummins ISM 1455 watts on the roof, 600 a/h's lithium in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Well, have to go with Magnum. Victron said have to have two for this. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcussen Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, GlennWest said: Well, have to go with Magnum. Victron said have to have two for this. Not a bad thing, you will be able to charge with 120 or 240 volts. Quote Foretravel 40ft tag 500hp Cummins ISM 1455 watts on the roof, 600 a/h's lithium in the basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Yea, I know, I sorta wanted a Victron solar charge controller and was going all Victron but just not in the cards. Well, I could with auto transformers or both inverters running constantly. With Magnum, it sets up where where one runs and when load increases say 60% second kicks in. Sweet. Also if I need more, a third inverter could be added easily. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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