Lou Schneider Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) TP shortages and grocery store lines aren't caused by hoarders but by closing restaurants and public toilets. If you're working and eat your lunch out, that's 1/3 of your daily food intake that didn't come from a supermarket. And not using public toilets and their TP has shifted that demand to home use. https://marker.medium.com/what-everyones-getting-wrong-about-the-toilet-paper-shortage-c812e1358fe0 Edited April 5, 2020 by Lou Schneider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Perhaps another perspective.. Certainly makes sense to me. The article quoted suggests a 40% increase in home usage, but the hoarding seems more like a 400% increase. Jay Edited April 5, 2020 by Jaydrvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjstough Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 People were hoarding TP way before restaurants started closing. Quote 2005 Winnebago Voyage 38J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, pjstough said: People were hoarding TP way before restaurants started closing. Definitely what I've observed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, pjstough said: People were hoarding TP way before restaurants started closing. They sure were. At one Walmart with a 24 roll limit, I watched a family of five check out separately with each member pushing their own cart with the maximum count in each one. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jaydrvr said: Definitely what I've observed. Maybe. When our income was from the Army we only shopped once a month since we only got paid once a month. And three of us wives carpooled for that shopping so we would have had three months worth of TP in our baskets. Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Dutch_12078 said: They sure were. At one Walmart with a 24 roll limit, I watched a family of five check out separately with each member pushing their own cart with the maximum count in each one. Again, maybe. We go through nearly a roll of paper most days. So 24 rolls is about a month's worth for us. And there we five people in their family. Again, if they only shopped once a month they might have been buying basic supplies. It is so hard to know what people are doing just by seeing them one time. Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, sandsys said: Maybe. When our income was from the Army we only shopped once a month since we only got paid once a month. And three of us wives carpooled for that shopping so we would have had three months worth of TP in our baskets. Linda Duplicate Edited April 5, 2020 by Jaydrvr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 55 minutes ago, sandsys said: Maybe. When our income was from the Army we only shopped once a month since we only got paid once a month. And three of us wives carpooled for that shopping so we would have had three months worth of TP in our baskets. Linda I think my exact words were "definitely what I've observed," but it's just an opinion based on observation. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 A roll a day ??? No wonder there's none left on the shelves . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdrider Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 Are we saying that THAT many people took care of business while at restaurants? I would never have imagined. And a roll per day? For how many people? I never really payed any attention to how much we use until this all started so I started to pay attention. As it turns out we get on average 8 days out of a roll, that's for 2 people and we only use the bathroom at our rig now of course. Quote Dave & Diane 2020 New Horizon Majestic 5th wheel 2018 Ram 5500 2014 Tiffin Phaeton 42LH (SOLD) 2012 Jeep Rubicon Unlimited (SOLD)http://daveanddiane.wordpress.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWqRmO1rO4cu3rFANF1iG6Q http://tickers.TickerFactory.com/ezt/d/4;10752;80/st/20120701/e/Went+fulltime/dt/-2/k/271f/event.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 5, 2020 Report Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 hours ago, sandsys said: Again, maybe. We go through nearly a roll of paper most days. So 24 rolls is about a month's worth for us. And there we five people in their family. Again, if they only shopped once a month they might have been buying basic supplies. It is so hard to know what people are doing just by seeing them one time. Linda 120 mega rolls is a little more than "a month's supply" even for a family of five I expect. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Dutch_12078 said: 120 mega rolls is a little more than "a month's supply" even for a family of five I expect. No wonder people have problems with the black tanks plugging. Ken Quote Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Pat & Pete said: A roll a day ??? No wonder there's none left on the shelves . If you haven't experienced IBD or Crohn's disease, then you may not realize ....... let me put this politely..... the clean up required after.... your gut tearing episode. The best way to describe it is to go eat some gas station sushi, chase it with a cold can of Van Camps pork and beans with a chaser of your cheapest rot gut whiskey..... Now have this happen randomly several times a day..... Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangodon Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 I'll pass on the sushi and beans and go straight to the Old Crow, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, Jaydrvr said: Duplicate I don't see a duplicate. I did respond to two different posts in a row so maybe that felt like a duplicate to you. 1 hour ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: If you haven't experienced IBD or Crohn's disease, then you may not realize ....... let me put this politely..... the clean up required after.... your gut tearing episode. The best way to describe it is to go eat some gas station sushi, chase it with a cold can of Van Camps pork and beans with a chaser of your cheapest rot gut whiskey..... Now have this happen randomly several times a day..... Good explanation. Thank you. Dave once commented on my "excess" usage so I asked him if he'd rather I not. He decided in my favor--and his. 🙂 Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, sandsys said: I don't see a duplicate. I did respond to two different posts in a row so maybe that felt like a duplicate to you. Good explanation. Thank you. Dave once commented on my "excess" usage so I asked him if he'd rather I not. He decided in my favor--and his. 🙂 Linda Duplicate means I inadvertently posted twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 I had a bidet in my last house and put one in this one immediately. We like the dual nozzle self cleaning ones. Under fifty bucks on Amazon. TP just for drying. Wet wipes for the rest. Quote RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: If you haven't experienced IBD or Crohn's disease, then you may not realize ....... let me put this politely..... the clean up required after.... your gut tearing episode. The best way to describe it is to go eat some gas station sushi, chase it with a cold can of Van Camps pork and beans with a chaser of your cheapest rot gut whiskey..... Now have this happen randomly several times a day..... Are you suggesting the incidence of IBD/Crohn's increased dramatically causing increased TP demand at the same time COVID-19 hoarders caused the other shortages we've seen in the markets? Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vermilye Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) If you believe the article at the beginning of the thread, there should be a surplus of commercial toilet paper. I just ordered an under sink drain pump for my home from Global Industries, and checked their janitor supplies page for toilet paper. ALL toilet paper, even the 2' diameter commercial rolls were out of stock. Edited April 6, 2020 by vermilye Quote Travel photos RV Blogs Journals & Travelogues at:http://www.lakeshoreimages.com My Travel Blog - Jon's Journeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 We have never had or do we have a TP problem. Since space is limited in a 5Th wheel RV we buy the 24 roll pack an we have no problem doing that. Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, richfaa said: we buy the 24 roll pack an we have no problem doing that. You would if you were here. With an unopened 24 roll pack, you can trade for a two year old bass boat and free fishing lessons. 🙂 Quote Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, richfaa said: We have never had or do we have a TP problem. Since space is limited in a 5Th wheel RV we buy the 24 roll pack an we have no problem doing that. Where are you buying these 24 roll packs and how long ago did you buy one? Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, vermilye said: If you believe the article at the beginning of the thread, there should be a surplus of commercial toilet paper. I just ordered an under sink drain pump for my home from Global Industries, and checked their janitor supplies page for toilet paper. ALL toilet paper, even the 2' diameter commercial rolls were out of stock. Exactly.... Everything I've seen commercially that resembles toilet paper is out of stock. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted April 6, 2020 Report Share Posted April 6, 2020 14 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: If you haven't experienced IBD or Crohn's disease, then you may not realize ....... let me put this politely..... the clean up required after.... your gut tearing episode. The best way to describe it is to go eat some gas station sushi, chase it with a cold can of Van Camps pork and beans with a chaser of your cheapest rot gut whiskey..... Now have this happen randomly several times a day..... I thankfully have not experienced either of those 'conditions' . And , I feel sorry for those that have . I'd imagine that having to use a roll a day would leave one's business rather raw , in short order . So , It seems logical that a different approach would soon be sought . At least it would by me . Maybe as RV utilizes : a bidet ? Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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