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When loading my motorcycle into my 42 foot long fifth wheel does it need to be hooked up to the truck? If not do the jacks/Stabilizer jacks in the back need to be up or down?

What about loading a side-by-side razor?

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I would load it when hooked up but it cane be done without hooking up. If not hooked up the rear jacks need to be down. The same when unloading.

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I have loaded both hooked up and not.  I do try to raise the front of the trailer as high as possible either with the air hitch or the front trailer jacks.  Reasoning for that is to reduce ramp angle and breakover angle at the top of the ramp.  I see no reason to put rear jacks down because my trailer is so heavy that rear jacks have no effect on stabilizing the trailer.  When loading my bikes into my 16' enclosed cargo i used the same procedure hooked up or not.

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Howdy!

We have a Smart Car that we load into our Cyclone 4000. I have loaded it when w e hooked up and not hooked up. When loading not hooked up, I have the jacks down.

” Happy Trails “

Chiefneon 

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5 hours ago, Bikertap said:

What is the 5700 vehicle?

I think he is taking about the weight of the vehicle...5,700lbs

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No, you do not have to be hooked up to load/unload.  IMO, you are better off being unhooked and LEVEL when loading or unloading.

If you are not level, you have NO IDEA what kind of twisting force you are putting on the RV's frame when loading/unloading.

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4 hours ago, remoandiris said:

No, you do not have to be hooked up to load/unload.  IMO, you are better off being unhooked and LEVEL when loading or unloading.

If you are not level, you have NO IDEA what kind of twisting force you are putting on the RV's frame when loading/unloading.

Level side/side, agree.  Level front/back, doesn't matter, as long as you're not loading something heavy enough to stress the rear axle, which is very unlikely.  A production motorcycle can't over stress it.  It's common practice to raise the trailer nose while loading if the machine sits too low for the breakover angle.

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17 hours ago, rickeieio said:

 It's common practice to raise the trailer nose while loading if the machine sits too low for the breakover angle.

Common practice for who?  I've been doing this a little while.  Never needed to do it and never seen it done.  But I don't have one of those bikes that sit too low, either.

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14 minutes ago, remoandiris said:

Common practice for who?  I've been doing this a little while.  Never needed to do it and never seen it done.  But I don't have one of those bikes that sit too low, either.

Well, read the post above by Orca for starters, and I know plenty of others who practice this method.  I've had a toy hauler since 2009, have hauled dozens of bikes and two cars, and never needed to, as our unit has a very long ramp/door, plus a beavertail at the rear.  Any of our bikes will load easily with the trailer level.

I would imagine if one were to do survey, we might be surprised at how many use this method.  But, it's your coach, do as you please.

Edited by rickeieio

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3 hours ago, remoandiris said:

Common practice for who?  I've been doing this a little while.  Never needed to do it and never seen it done.  But I don't have one of those bikes that sit too low, either.

We have seen it done quite frequently on the car show circuit and yes it is for low clearance vehicles and bikes. Like others, we have not needed to do that with ours as our trailers always had a beaver tail and long ramp door. Our new trailer sits much higher than our old car hauler type trailers so I use a set of race ramps under the end of the ramp door and it prevents us from high centering or scraping the front end. We never use our rear Jack's and are always hooked up but we are loading a much heavier vehicle than most.

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20 hours ago, rickeieio said:

I would imagine if one were to do survey, we might be surprised at how many use this method.  But, it's your coach, do as you please.

Surveys and statistics can be manipulated based on how questions are asked.  And a survey done on this forum is a representation of this forum, not the RVing population as a whole.  Your last sentence is the best answer. 

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2 hours ago, remoandiris said:

Surveys and statistics can be manipulated based on how questions are asked.  And a survey done on this forum is a representation of this forum, not the RVing population as a whole.  Your last sentence is the best answer. 

I have read somewhere that 63.5% of statistics are just made up numbers. 

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