jenandjon Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Its time to add some windows in the sleeper. Kids cant see out. They missed a lot of beautiful country on our trip out to the West Coast Rally. I called Vander Haag's in Sioux Falls all they have is 2 right hand windows. After some discussion and looking at several pictures it was agreed that both right and left are interchangeable. So, I ordered 2 right hand Freightliner sleeper windows. They are just going to cut the window out and give me a chunk of the sleeper. So when I remove it I will know how it all goes back together. I fully intend on doing this myself. However I have a friend that does body work on semi trucks. It might end up going to him. My budget is no budget. The more money I spend on this the less we have to spend on our trip coming up this summer. I am going to have to take my time and do it right. I pick the windows up on Saturday. I wont be starting this project until after the first of the year. That gives me time to decide am I doing it myself or taking it in. I was told by the body shop that the stiffeners should already be in the wall of the sleeper. Its a matter of cutting the hole and and getting everything lined up. I have to peel back the interior and see if in fact they are there. If I have to wield in pieces to stiffen it up I will be taking it in for sure because I don't have an aluminum welder. This is one of the windows I have ordered. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 If you are putting it into the same model truck, then there should be no reinforcement there that will interfere. If you are putting it into something different it will be a toss-up. Make sure that you do reinforce the cab if you are forced to cut out any bridging. You can use adhesive if you use the right thing. Good luck - it is not as hard as you think. IMO the hardest part is trimming out the interior properly. Quote Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I agree with Jack that the interior work is the hardest part. Those look like standard RV style windows, probably just clamped to the wall by the trim ring and sealed with butyl tape. When I did the windows in my Volvo, I made an interior filler ring out of wood and MDF, glued it to the inside of the wall with windshield urethane, and glued the window to the out side with the same. I ended up making new interior wall panels due to all the holes that were left when I took out the cabinets and such. Cutting the holes in the wall was a bit nerve wracking, just making sure it was right on the first try. I used a HF air nibbler to cut the wall out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGO Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 I added windows to my 635 using Fliner sleeper windows. They have a nice finished trip ring inside, but I had to make a "filler" for the gap. Pic available. Yours look great! One note- see where the drain holes are in the window slide channel. I turned mine 90 deg, so had to drill small holes for them to drain. Quote You'd have to see the movie to understand.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 These are Freightliner Columbia windows going back in a Freightliner Columbia. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGO Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Should be easy. Just be sure the drain slots are down. Quote You'd have to see the movie to understand.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire guy Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I have a 99 Century and when i stripped the condo sleeper, the framework for the window was there. Had a good pic for you but tried to put in a second pic and now i can't get either pic to show up! Anyway, should be easy if they are freightliner windows. It's on my to do list for the winter to, just don't have the windows yet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire guy Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) Worked that time. Edited December 4, 2019 by Fire guy Picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Fire guy said: I have a 99 Century and when i stripped the condo sleeper, the framework for the window was there. Had a good pic for you but tried to put in a second pic and now i can't get either pic to show up! Anyway, should be easy if they are freightliner windows. It's on my to do list for the winter to, just don't have the windows yet.. That is good to know, thanks. I got my windows used for $100 a piece. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGO Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 I might be able to get you the factory inside trim rings for a reasonable price + shpg Quote You'd have to see the movie to understand.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) Its a good thing I went out into the yard when I picked up my windows. There is another inside frame you will need. It is riveted to the inside of the cab. The inside trim piece screws to it. I will get pictures today and post them later. Fire Guy I am glad you posted this picture of yours gutted. I would never have known that piece was missing from our trucks. Edited December 9, 2019 by jenandjon Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire guy Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 That's good to know. The more i thought about it after i posted that pick i began to think that the framework that is there looked more like it would fit the sleeper doors and was a bit too big for just the windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Here are the pictures of the parts. The window frame is 2 pieces that screw together to hold the window in place. The large aluminum piece is to screw the inside plastic trim piece to. You do not need that to hold in the window. This will be fine on my passenger side. I can easily remove the factory interior and put this bracket in. Not so easy on my driver side. I might have to do something different with my interior. I built and installed a large wooden cabinet to hold the fridge and microwave. I had to use some persuasion to get it in there. As in a 5lb sledge and block of wood. I would have to remove the cabinet in order to remove the factory interior. Not happening. No sense in worrying about that until the time comes. I will do the easy side first. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 hours ago, Fire guy said: That's good to know. The more i thought about it after i posted that pick i began to think that the framework that is there looked more like it would fit the sleeper doors and was a bit too big for just the windows. No I found one with a sleeper door in it at the salvage yard. The framework was way different. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire guy Posted December 9, 2019 Report Share Posted December 9, 2019 Now i know what to look for. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 I got the hole laid out. By the end of the weekend there should be a window here. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan0043 Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 Thank you for sharing. Looking forward to see more pictures. Nice work. Quote 2012 Volvo VNL 630 w/ I-Shift; D13 engine; " Veeger " Redwood, model 3401R ; 5th Wheel Trailer, " Dead Wood " 2006 Smart Car " Killer Frog " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted December 20, 2019 Report Share Posted December 20, 2019 8 hours ago, jenandjon said: I got the hole laid out. By the end of the weekend there should be a window here. Just make sure you get it in the right spot the first time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2019 I am going to cut the hole too small the first time so I can move it a little bit either way if need be. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Got the interior out. Found this support plate in there. I traced out the bracket where the interior trim needs to go. I'm just going to cut that out rather than remove the whole plate. Edited December 23, 2019 by jenandjon Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 That won't work, Jon. The window trim will interfere with the remains of the support bracket. I think. Check how the trim installs before you get too far in. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 11 hours ago, Darryl&Rita said: That won't work, Jon. The window trim will interfere with the remains of the support bracket. I think. Check how the trim installs before you get too far in. You mean the vertical piece? I trimmed that out too. I'm all ready to cut the big hole. I will be doing that right after Christmas. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Nope, the large flat piece. Looks like a pair of eyes in the top outside corners. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Oh yea, I think I'm good there. See the lines I traced. I held the new bracket up and traced it. Inside and outside. Then I cut it out between the lines. Not pretty but it will be hidden in the wall. Should be good. If not I will cut more out. I'm going to cut the exterior hole too small the first time so I have some wiggle room. Allowing me to line everything up inside and out. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted December 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2019 Got a hole cut and test fit. Got it mocked up on the inside. Looks like everything is going to fit like its suppose to. Now I have to figure out what to use for a sealer and get it together. It first I thought I might use the stuff they use on windshields. But if that window ever broke you would never get it out. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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