agesilaus Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 RV Newsletter Looks like they want to cut the discount on upcharges to the camping fee. But the big problem is cutting the discount all together during peak season. Pay full charges all summer long? Don't like it, now is the time to call your senators and congressmen: House: (352) 732-1313 Senate: (202) 224-3121 Calls are the most effective but you can email them too, just write your own email don't use a form letter. I'm not sure if this applies to Access Passes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Happy Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Wound this be called a "Bait & Switch" . I lost my senior pass card over a year ago, and now I'm wondering if I should even replace it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesa Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Just emailed the AZ Senators and Congressman Dear Senator XXX, I understand that the federal government is proposing changes in the National Parks system that reduces or eliminates the benefits to seniors who have purchased a “senior pass” to enter the parks. I am asking you to oppose any moves that eliminate this small but very precious perk to retired Americans. Please protect our senior pass benefits! Thank You, Your Name Quote Mike Foster 2020 Transcend 221RB 2017 Chevrolet 2500 HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, mesa said: Just emailed the AZ Senators and Congressman Dear Senator XXX, I understand that the federal government is proposing changes in the National Parks system that reduces or eliminates the benefits to seniors who have purchased a “senior pass” to enter the parks. I am asking you to oppose any moves that eliminate this small but very precious perk to retired Americans. Please protect our senior pass benefits! Thank You, Your Name Done Denny Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Increasing profits is good business Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly2low Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 Quote Increasing profits is good business When was the last year that the NPS ran a profit? Quote Rich and Carol 2007 Dynamax DQ 340 XL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 This will be the start. Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Captain Happy said: . I lost my senior pass card over a year ago, and now I'm wondering if I should even replace it. The Federal Senior pass is non-replaceable, at least it was years ago when I got mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 We missed placed.... or lost...... Alie's pass last year. We had to buy another one. Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 20, 2019 Report Share Posted October 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, hemsteadc said: The Federal Senior pass is non-replaceable, at least it was years ago when I got mine. You just go and buy another one. That is how it has always been but of course, now the price is $80. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kirk W said: You just go and buy another one. That is how it has always been but of course, now the price is $80. The senior handicapped pass was free, now with the $80 initial fee, I wonder if the handicap card now costs?? Best I go to the website and look_right. UPDATE: Did not find this addressed on a National Parks Senior Pass website, however I did find the information on https://www.tripsavvy.com/how-to-obtain-the-access-pass-3361868 Edited October 21, 2019 by Ray,IN Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agesilaus Posted October 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 The senior handicapped pass was free, now with the $80 initial fee, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So far as I know the Access pass is free and so is a replacement. I got a replacement a couple of years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 We have had one for years it is very thick now . If we have to pay so be it. We will pay. Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, agesilaus said: The senior handicapped pass was free, now with the $80 initial fee, --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So far as I know the Access pass is free and so is a replacement. I got a replacement a couple of years ago. Quote Access Pass Free Lifetime pass for any citizen or permanent resident of the U.S. who has been medically determined to have a permanent disability. 50% discount on some expanded amenity fees like camping fees. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 Quote Senior Pass Benefits Does my Senior Pass provide any discounts at Cooperating Association bookstores or gift shops that are located in the Federal Recreation sites? No. The Senior Pass does not cover discounts in on-site bookstores or gift stores. Does the Senior Pass include any discounts at Federal Recreation sites? At many sites the Senior Pass provides the pass owner a discount on Expanded Amenity Fees (such as camping, swimming, boat launching, and guided tours). What are the discount guidelines? The pass program is managed by six Federal agencies that operate under different regulations and have different fees. Therefore, the discount program for the Senior Pass is not handled in the same way on all Federal recreation lands. In general discounts are honored as follows Individual Campsites: The discount only applies to the fee for the campsite physically occupied by the pass owner, not to any additional campsite(s) occupied by members of the pass owner's party. Campsites with Utility Hookups: If utility fees are charged separately, there is no discount. The discount may apply if the utility fee is combined (seamless) with the campsite fee. Group Campsites and Facilities: (including, but not limited to, group facilities, picnic areas or pavilions): There is no discount for group campsites and other group facilities that charge a flat fee. If the group campsite has a per person fee rate, only the pass owner receives a discount; others using the site pay the full fee. Guided Tours: The pass offers discounts on some guided tours. Only the pass owner receives a discount if one is offered. Transportation Systems: (Inquire Locally) Concessionaire Fees: (Inquire Locally) Special Use Permit Fees: (Inquire Locally) Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kirk W said: You just go and buy another one. That is how it has always been but of course, now the price is $80. About your Senior Pass Passes are NON-REFUNDABLE, NON-TRANSFERABLE, and cannot be replaced if lost or stolen. ===================================== Ok, I'm confused. Edited October 21, 2019 by hemsteadc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, hemsteadc said: About your Senior Pass Passes are NON-REFUNDABLE, NON-TRANSFERABLE, and cannot be replaced if lost or stolen. ===================================== Ok, I'm confused. You cannot get a replacement pass but you can buy a brand new one that has nothing to do with your previous one. Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 16 hours ago, hemsteadc said: The Federal Senior pass is non-replaceable, at least it was years ago when I got mine. But you can buy a new one. Quote LindaH 2014 Winnebago Aspect 27K 2011 Kia Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, sandsys said: You cannot get a replacement pass but you can buy a brand new one that has nothing to do with your previous one. Linda Ok.. thanks. Interesting.. I guess you have to actually ask them that question to get that answer. Edited October 21, 2019 by hemsteadc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 I just went back and re-read the link that began all this discussion. There are some misleading statements contained in that RV newsletter issue. Re-read it yourself, then go to the National Parks website and drill down until you find their official position. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 21, 2019 Report Share Posted October 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Ray,IN said: Re-read it yourself, then go to the National Parks website and drill down until you find their official position. You make a very good point, but I visited the NPS website and am unable to locate anything that is related to the referenced subject or article. How about posting a link to the information that you read? Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) Well Kirk, I cannot find that NPS webpage I had bookmarked again. The disability pass is now named the Access Pass, that website is current information as of August 31,2019. Where some of the confusion arises is due to, 5 Federal Agencies control the pass program. This FWS pdf answers many common questions: https://www.fws.gov/refuges/pdfs/AccessPass_PublicFINAL_100507.pdf The RVtravel website talks about the possibility of losing the 50% camping fee discount; some concessionaires were not honoring that many years ago, so nothing new. Veterans with any VA rating may obtain a free lifetime National Parks pass: https://www.military.com/militaryadvantage/2018/04/06/got-va-rating-you-can-get-free-lifetime-national-parks-pass.html Edited October 22, 2019 by Ray,IN Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edatlanta Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 5:00 PM, hemsteadc said: The Federal Senior pass is non-replaceable, at least it was years ago when I got mine. It is only replaceable if you have the original worn or damaged one. If it is lost or just gone, you have to buy a new one at full price. Quote Ed KM4STL2006 GMC 2500HD CCSB 4x4 Duramax/Allison, Titan 52 gallon fuel tank, Prodigy Controller, B&W Companion Hitch2010 Jayco Designer 35RLTS, RV Flex Armor Roof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, edatlanta said: It is only replaceable if you have the original worn or damaged one. How do you go about getting it replaced? We first had the cardboard Golden Age cards and later when entering a park the ranger replaced those for us with the newer cards with a magnetic stripe but we still have and use the last version of Golden Age cards and have not updated to an America the Beautiful Senior Card and it has never been questioned nor has a replacement been offered. Edited October 22, 2019 by Kirk W Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted October 22, 2019 Report Share Posted October 22, 2019 A replacement doesn't have to be free. If you buy a new car to replace your old one, that is a replacement. Quote Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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