Dp26 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Gasser for me... although rare these days, could vapor lock while sitting off, and restart tried before cooling off, if the conditions are right. If the staff would like me to shut down, I would ask they allow me to park and hook up, then I will come back for paperwork. They likely already have collected the first night as a deposit. A electric rad fan is on my to-do list, not only for efficiency, but for better idle cooling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Yes, and a meteor could fall out of the sky while you're parked at the office registering and disable your potty. Tens of millions of gasoline vehicles are shut down and restarted while hot every hour of every day without vapor locking. I can't remember the last time I even heard of a vehicle vapor locking. Quote Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dp26 Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Yep, a good reminder why I stopped posting. While you may disagree, other have reasons for keeping cool, maybe even medical needs. Signing out until I forget unproductive, and maybe written as nastygram or just smart Alec replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 25 minutes ago, chirakawa said: I can't remember the last time I even heard of a vehicle vapor locking. I think that pretty much ended with the placement of the fuel pump in the fuel tank. But I did enter many a campground in summer with the generator running to keep the a/c on or back before we retired we often had dinner cooking in a crockpot sitting in the sink that required electric power. I can't recall every having been asked/told to shut down the generator prior to being hooked up. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Schneider Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Twotoes said: Shutting off the generator while checking in is ok (and the A/C) but I have been told that it is bad for a Diesel engine to shut off and turn back on right away also that you should let it idle before shutting off to allow it to cooll down. I don’t shut my Diesel off until I am parked and the jacks are down and I’m level. You should let a diesel run for a few minutes after a hard pull, including running at highway speeds, to let the turbo cool down. If you drove for a half mile at city speeds getting to the check-in station that's more than enough time to dissipate the highway heat. Stopping and restarting a diesel within a short period of time is no harder on it than on a gas engine. Have some consideration for your neighbors - there's no reason to leave the engine running after you get to the campsite or while you're off doing something else. Edited August 15, 2019 by Lou Schneider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 10 hours ago, Dp26 said: Yep, a good reminder why I stopped posting. While you may disagree, other have reasons for keeping cool, maybe even medical needs. Signing out until I forget unproductive, and maybe written as nastygram or just smart Alec replies I don't have a problem with someone running their vehicle to keep it cool while registering. I just don't see the need to spout nonsense to try and justify it. Quote Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieere Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 The original poster didn't break no rules and if it was me I would have kept the Jenny running until quiet time! And as far as Air Conditioners when you stay in the south; Campers run them 24/7. As long as no one is breaking the rules; let them complain! He wasn't being unruly; he shut it down! Rant over! Quote Living Life One Day At A Time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL-JOE Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 13 hours ago, Barbaraok said: We always turn off the generator and the engine when we pull in to register, even in 100+ weather. Never have had a problem then going to the site and setting up. If hot, electric first, I then run inside and make sure the A/C is on, and then we go about doing everything else. No need waste diesel for a few minutes worth. Is your insulation that bad that the interior won't stay cool for 30 minutes? Barb Personal preference I guess. I have never pulled off the highway after having a load on my diesel engine and just shut it down. Guess I was always taught to let it idle and cool down for several minutes. I always plug in the electric first to check it at the site. There is no use in doing anything else until you know 100% that the pedestal is actually good. I also like to take the load off my generator for a few minutes and then shut it down. Getting 6.5mpg average I don't really worry about "wasting a few minutes of diesel" in the whole scheme of things. Quote Joe & Cindy Newmar 4369 Ventana Pulling 24' enclosed (Mini Cooper, Harley, 2 Kayaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) On 8/7/2019 at 2:12 PM, sandsys said: I had a neighbor complain about the noise of my water pump! I switched to city water to accommodate her but then the water in my tank gets stale. I've complained about gas water heaters, which are an explosion followed by a jet engine. People just leave them on 24/7, not realizing how loud they are at 3am. Please, when in close proximity to other campers, turn off the water heater. Edited August 15, 2019 by hemsteadc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotoes Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 I don’t have a choice. I have to let my motor run until I have my jacks down and I’m level. Can’t operate the jacks without the motor running. As soon as I am level I shut off the motor. Quote 2015 Itasca Ellipse 42QD 2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock Edition 2021 Harley Street Glide Special Fulltimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Twotoes said: I don’t have a choice. I have to let my motor run until I have my jacks down and I’m level. Can’t operate the jacks without the motor running. As soon as I am level I shut off the motor. Which shows difference in rig design. And notice you said you shut down immediately after leveling, not after you’ve finished all of your set up activities, like most people getting into any site. Quote Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotoes Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 Yes, as soon as I am level I shut the motor off, hook up my electric, go inside and put the slides out, start my A/C, and go back outside to hook up water and sewer. I am a solo so I have to do everything myself. Quote 2015 Itasca Ellipse 42QD 2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock Edition 2021 Harley Street Glide Special Fulltimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 7 hours ago, FL-JOE said: Guess I was always taught to let it idle and cool down for several minutes. Check your owner's manual as things have changed. It has been quite some time since that was required. A friend or ours had a 2012 Cummins powered pusher that when in for service the Cummins tech told him that based on the computer data report he had been letting it idle too much. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted August 15, 2019 Report Share Posted August 15, 2019 By the time you get off the highway and roll up to the check in, the diesel has cooled down enough. Same goes for warming it up in the early morning. By the time you get to the highway, it's warmed up enough. Did it for 8 years with no issues. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, hemsteadc said: I've complained about gas water heaters, which are an explosion followed by a jet engine. People just leave them on 24/7, not realizing how loud they are at 3am. Please, when in close proximity to other campers, turn off the water heater. ANY LP water heater burner that is that loud is out of adjustment, and requires regular maintenance performed; OR it is so rusty it should be replaced. You must stand beside mine to hear the burner. Edited August 16, 2019 by Ray,IN Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravellingCircus Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Ray,IN said: ANY LP water heater burner that is that loud is out of adjustment, and requires regular maintenance performed; OR it is so rusty it should be replaced. You must stand beside mine to hear the burner. Or just run your water heater on electric unless you're boondocking. Why burn your propane when you can use electricity you've already paid for? If you can hear a water heater in the site next to you cycling on gas you need to get a better tent, or ear plugs because I've never heard such a thing from my 5th wheel. Furnaces, maybe but not water heaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, TravellingCircus said: Or just run your water heater on electric unless you're boondocking. Why burn your propane when you can use electricity you've already paid for? Many RV water heaters are porpane only. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL-JOE Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 15 hours ago, Kirk W said: Check your owner's manual as things have changed. It has been quite some time since that was required. A friend or ours had a 2012 Cummins powered pusher that when in for service the Cummins tech told him that based on the computer data report he had been letting it idle too much. No need to check my Cummins manual again Kirk. At my initial service on my 2017 the certified mechanic in charge of their shop and I had a long discussion about my engine and the load I was pulling. He said if coming directly off an interstate to fuel up or stop in a rest area the motor needed to idle for a short time. If driving at 30mph or so for a few miles after having a heavy load on then the idle down time wasn't important. Quote Joe & Cindy Newmar 4369 Ventana Pulling 24' enclosed (Mini Cooper, Harley, 2 Kayaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL-JOE Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirk W said: Many RV water heaters are porpane only. You learn something everyday. I have never heard of a propane only water heater on an RV. I would question the fact that "many" water heaters in RVs are propane only though. I would guess that the vast majority are electric and propane, probably 95%. Just guessing though Kirk, you have more experience. Quote Joe & Cindy Newmar 4369 Ventana Pulling 24' enclosed (Mini Cooper, Harley, 2 Kayaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 29 minutes ago, FL-JOE said: You learn something everyday. I have never heard of a propane only water heater on an RV. I would question the fact that "many" water heaters in RVs are propane only though. I would guess that the vast majority are electric and propane, probably 95%. Just guessing though Kirk, you have more experience. Propane only water heaters are quite common in smaller TT's and motorized RV's. About the only type I haven't seen in years are standing pilot models, although lower end pop-ups with minimal electrical systems may still use them. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 39 minutes ago, FL-JOE said: You learn something everyday. I have never heard of a propane only water heater on an RV. I would question the fact that "many" water heaters in RVs are propane only though. I would guess that the vast majority are electric and propane, probably 95%. Just guessing though Kirk, you have more experience. Since we're guessing, I'd guess that the great majority of entry level campers are propane only, unless the buyer upgrades to a gas/electric model. Now, if we're talking diesel pushers, probably not many propane only water heaters out there. I've owned at least fifteen rv's in my time, only one came with a propane/electric combo water heater. I did, however, convert several others by adding the electric element. https://www.etrailer.com/Accessories-and-Parts/Diamond/DGR6VP.html?feed=npn&msclkid=eb42129613cc17a3708b4fc0bf1c63d6&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shop - All&utm_term=4577266908256271&utm_content=Catch All Products Quote Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravellingCircus Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Kirk W said: Many RV water heaters are porpane only. Have you ever had any real world complaints about propane water heaters? My point is that the complaint is rather ludicrous and if one is that sensitive to sound, maybe the dispersed type camping I mentioned before is the better option for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 This is a very good site and I like to read it on a regular basis to note how many problems we have never had. We have only been at this for 25 years or so. Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, TravellingCircus said: Have you ever had any real world complaints about propane water heaters? My point is that the complaint is rather ludicrous and if one is that sensitive to sound, maybe the dispersed type camping I mentioned before is the better option for them. This is exactly the kind of attitude that keeps me camping as far away from others as possible as often as possible. Edited August 16, 2019 by hemsteadc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TravellingCircus Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, hemsteadc said: This is exactly the kind of attitude that keeps me camping as far away from others as possible as often as possible. See you solved your own problem, and I'm sure it's appreciated by many. Are you sure you weren't hearing the furnace? I haven't heard of any full-timers complaining of something so minor...campers on the other hand, apparently it is possible. Try to keep your trails happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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