Lance A Lott Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 How do you do it, left foot brake, parking brake? I dont have hill assist. The Alison in my school bus never roles back but the Volvo does and I dont think the horse will like it. I dont like to show my ignorance but pride befor a fall and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffw Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 I don't have an iShift, but I do have an UltraShift. I use my left foot on the brake pedal and right on the gas. It works nicely once you try it a few times. Quote 2007 Volvo 780 Volvo D12D, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastercraft Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 Johnson bar if your rear brakes have air in the actuation path Quote 2009 Volvo 780 D16 535hp 1850 ft-lbs I shift 3.36 Thermo King Tripac APU DIY Bed and Frame Extension ET Hitch, Stellar EC2000, EcoGen 6K 2002 F350 CC Dually w/ Lance 1181 2012 Mini Cooper S 2007 Teton Royal Freedom " The only place you will find success before work is the dictionary " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaway parents Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Apply parking brake when stopped. To start moving apply a little throttle till you feel it start to grab release parking brake and you are off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 If you have Directlink brake controller and it is set up for this, pull the trigger or brake actuator to lock up the brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted July 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 I had not thought to use the trailer brake, I do have direct link I will try that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 My DirecLink was shipped last October and was held up for a week or 2 while a new software upgrade was installed. So, I don't know how old your system is but it may be able to take an upgrade ...not sure, you'd have to contact Tuscon. Felice One Last name pronounced Onay Manager Tuson RV Brakes, LLC Office: 800-968-8766 ext. 219 Email: felice-one@tuson.com Website: www.tusonrvbrakes.com The 'Hill hold' feature is something that has to be programmed in by using the remote...push this, push that, now return and push something else. If you get stumped, call Felice and she will put you in touch with one of her techs and they will walk you thru the process. Another feature of the system is it will tell you whether all your brake magnets are working. Each one is supposed to pull about 3 volts and mine was pulling 12v which for a triple axle was about 6 short. I think it was Nigel who told me an ordinary compass will swing when power is applied to that particular wheel. That hasn't been tried yet. If the compass works it is a lot easier than crawling under the trailer and using my Snap On digital voltmeter with the sharp point to poke the wire and my finger. The wires are buried behind shocks and Moreryde system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 hours ago, rdickinson said: using my Snap On digital voltmeter with the sharp point to poke the wire We really don't want to be poking holes in wires. It lets in moisture and corrodes the copper. Don't ask how I know.🙄 Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) I don't disagree but the 'clamp around the wire device' used in AC doesn't work on DC, I'm told. So what other options are there that will work. It is tight quarters under there especially rolled up on one shoulder to try to hold the wire with one hand and the probe with the other and try to avoid another of many punctures in my finger all of which are a source of discomfort and soaking in soapy water to avoid infection. I asked Bob at Fennels RV, he said they would be having to do the same thing. The only other way for me to get under is pull the trailer ahead up on a ramp/block for each wheel. To get this 23k beast off the ground we've used an air assisted jack and even that was pushed into the ground a bit. Hey, if you have a better way don't keep it a secret. Edited July 20, 2019 by rdickinson typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 There are “dc clamp on meters”! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept99 Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 I'm just a ol' heater & a banger ironworker, but seems to me that a small alligator clip with a bit of tape for insulation and an appropriate length of stranded ignition wire ought to get you out from under your rig. And yes, you can buy "store bought" leads. Quote Paul & Paula + Daisy the amazing wiggle worm dog... 2001 Volvo 770 Autoshift, Singled, w/ Aluminum Bed - Toy Draggin 2013 395AMP XLR Thunderbolt Toy Hauler 2013 Smart Passion 2012 CanAm Spyder RT 2013 Harley Davidson Street Glide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, DesertMiner said: There are “dc clamp on meters”! Yup and are well worth the $40 for the cheapee model. Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 I'm just a ol' heater & a banger ironworker, but seems to me that a small alligator clip with a bit of tape for insulation and an appropriate length of stranded ignition wire ought to get you out from under your rig. And yes, you can buy "store bought" leads OK, and attach it to what where? It needs to be out from under to be any good. Whether I'm trying to reach in an awkward area on one shoulder or poking holes in wire or fingers in the same area doesn't help. I will look up DC clamp meter. I have asked a couple of people and they both told me 'no'. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&id=CE746AA9E8420CB8529D379F908E01D829D68F53&thid=OIP.4xoNTMIKreIItFL_pb8x9gHaFj&mediaurl=https%3A%2F%2Fftaelectronics.com%2Fimage%2Fcache%2Fcatalog%2FMultimeters%2FAC%20DC%20Multimeter%20Electronic%20Tester%20Digital%20Clamp%20(2)-1024x768_0.jpg&exph=768&expw=1024&q=clamp+on+dc+meter&selectedindex=7&ajaxhist=0&vt=0&eim=1,6 I don't understand why all these experts would say no when clearly they are....Now to figure out which would be adequate. I'd still have to get under the trailer but could reach with the clamp on meter around a wire....that I could handle. I'm still under the trailer on crushed rock. A plastic tarp helps...chew it up rather than me. Is there something like the electricians use to test continuity in wiring or where the break is in wire? About the size of a pen and has a flat blade on the end that they sweep along the wire and it beeps or has a lighted end?? For 12v. https://www.homedepot.ca/product/klein-tools-dual-range-non-contact-voltage-tester/1000705444 I sure hope Randy gets down to Florida this Winter so I can poach his brain for some electrical instruction. Most RV problems revolve around electricity or lack of it and yes I know a lot are about bad grounds and yes Henry told me to find where it doesn't work and trace back from there. I'd get a Power Probe but don't really know how to use it to its potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Those pokey things can get you in trouble. A long time ago, I had a heat/ac issue in a car (1975 model). I crawled under the dash and started poking holes in all the colored wires coming and going to the heater slide switches. But half of them were vacuum lines........... Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, rickeieio said: Those pokey things can get you in trouble. A long time ago, I had a heat/ac issue in a car (1975 model). I crawled under the dash and started poking holes in all the colored wires coming and going to the heater slide switches. But half of them were vacuum lines........... I can appreciate that but it bothers me when you ask people who should clearly be in the know and they give you wrong info. One of those 12v clamp on meters with a gauge or scale will tell me there is or isn't power and how much. If it's not close to 3v then there are issues somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/18/2019 at 7:34 PM, Lance A Lott said: How do you do it, left foot brake, parking brake? I dont have hill assist. The Alison in my school bus never roles back but the Volvo does and I dont think the horse will like it. I dont like to show my ignorance but pride befor a fall and all that. I asked this before but didn't get an answer. The question was can the 'Hill hold feature' be programmed into a trans that doesn't currently have it. Let's see if someone can respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, rdickinson said: I can appreciate that but it bothers me when you ask people who should clearly be in the know and they give you wrong info. Yeah it is frustrating to get bad advice. I had a camera wiring/compatibility issue between Voyager systems and Rear View Safety systems we were trying to solve. Called up Voyager and talked to their tech people. They said - "No that is incompatible and won't work". After thinking about it we decided that made no sense and did some further testing and configuration....lo and behold, it works....when they said absolutely it would not. If we had listened to them it would have been an expensive experience for the customer. Quote Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted July 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 14 hours ago, rdickinson said: My DirecLink was shipped last October and was held up for a week or 2 while a new software upgrade was installed. So, I don't know how old your system is but it may be able to take an upgrade ...not sure, you'd have to contact Tuscon. Felice One Last name pronounced Onay Manager Tuson RV Brakes, LLC Office: 800-968-8766 ext. 219 Email: felice-one@tuson.com Website: www.tusonrvbrakes.com The 'Hill hold' feature is something that has to be programmed in by using the remote...push this, push that, now return and push something else. If you get stumped, call Felice and she will put you in touch with one of her techs and they will walk you thru the process. Another feature of the system is it will tell you whether all your brake magnets are working. Each one is supposed to pull about 3 volts and mine was pulling 12v which for a triple axle was about 6 short. I think it was Nigel who told me an ordinary compass will swing when power is applied to that particular wheel. That hasn't been tried yet. If the compass works it is a lot easier than crawling under the trailer and using my Snap On digital voltmeter with the sharp point to poke the wire and my finger. The wires are buried behind shocks and Moreryde system. Are you sure its 3 volts per wheel? I thought it was 3 to 4 amps per wheel. You only have 12 ish volts available and I get 12 at each magnet when the controller is fully applied. I can usaly still hear the magnets but I tend to Jack the trailer up and spin the tire or try to if it is working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted July 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, rdickinson said: I asked this before but didn't get an answer. The question was can the 'Hill hold feature' be programmed into a trans that doesn't currently have it. Let's see if someone can respond. The tecniton told me no when I asked on Tuesday. Who knows if he is correct. I think there is atleast a switch that would be needed. I would think if you spent enough money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Amps or volts per wheel...I can't remember. This was last December. I could hook up the truck tomorrow and plug up the Park but can't recall what page or screen to look for. Maybe someone else can say for sure or correct me. Maybe it's in the manual. I'll e-mail The Volvo people in Port Alberni and see what they have to say about Hill hold. If it's possible, they will want the vin#. A few years ago there was supposed to be someone who worked at Volvo who had access to a computer that was able to change settings....not sure what happened, but have not heard anymore about it or him. You never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 Yes it is amps per magnet. Electrics is a foreign language to Roger but he is very in tune with his combination and knows when something is not right. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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