PAylor Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Hi all, We just switched from axels to MorRyde independent suspension system on our fifth wheel in April. We are very pleased with ride and stability. We are concerned after seven thousand miles that the rubber shear springs and hydraulic shocks are not preforming the way we were led to believe. We would love to hear from anyone who has done this conversion. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 What is your concern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 Can you tell us what brand of 5th wheel, the weight on the IS suspension, and what is going on? Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAylor Posted June 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 It's a 2017 Ambition. We think we're just under 20k pounds loaded. It appears that the gap the rubber shear springs has narrowed from 2 1/2 inches to about 1 inch. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted June 19, 2019 Report Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Are you saying the space between the plates that the rubber springs are bonded to are only 1 inch apart? Since the spring plates should work in a parallel fashion, the plates should not close on each other. If you are in fact seeing a 1 inch spacing between the plates, I would be calling MOE/ryde. Out trailer is 13 years old with about 90,000 miles and the rubber spring spacing is the same as new. We did replace one spring several years ago because we has a slight bonding failure. Photo of when we replaced the rubber spring. You can the normal spacing of the rubber spring plates. Edited June 19, 2019 by Mark and Dale Bruss Quote Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 14 hours ago, PAylor said: We think we're just under 20k pounds loaded. I would also get an accurate weight for the trailer and preferably, weights by wheel. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 MORryde always weighs the RV prior to IS installation, if they did the install they'd tell you the weight and they also measured our height. The weight is used to determine which IS and rubber to install. Greg Quote Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAylor Posted June 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 The printed material from MORryde has a section on determining the rubber shear spring deflection. The springs are not separating laterally. The deflection is a vertical measurement. The deflection has gone from 2.5 inches to 1inch after less than 3 months and 7000 miles. It sounds like they might not have put a strong enough shear spring based on the weight. Or the hydraulic shock is failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 In 2010 we had 8K IS installed by MORryde. The first rubber was too stiff and the fifth wheel rode hard. A couple months later they installed a softer rubber and we travelled a year on them and the ride again became too hard. Fortunately we visit lower MI each summer and stopped at MORryde and the soft rubbers had collapsed. They again replaced the rubber and for the next 7 years until we sold the HitchHiker we had no further troubles, not even alignment. Yes it is possible your current rubber were too soft and collapsed, I'd call MORryde. Greg Quote Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orca Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 I would hazard a guess that failure of these suspension blocks is more common than moryde would have us believe! I myself had to replace a set on my Fullhouse once, a year after i bought it. As to the shocks; a normal shock supports no weight. A gas shock will "support" about 50 pounds because of the pressure of the gas that is inside. That gas is there only to reduce the foaming of the hydrolic oil. Quote 2004 Freightliner m2 106 2015 DRV lx450 Fullhouse 2019 Indian Springfield 2014 Yamaha 950 V-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Big Greg said: MORryde always weighs the RV prior to IS installation, if they did the install they'd tell you the weight and they also measured our height. The weight is used to determine which IS and rubber to install. Greg If this was an off the shelf unit from the factory lot, Moryde may not have weighed the unit. Ambition units may not be weighed until they leave the factory finished. So by the time RV Factory (Ambition/Lux) adds their final touches, then the owner adds all their stuff, the RV is probably over weight. One of the main complaints of Ambition/Lux is the lack of cargo capacity.... but most folks take what they want anyway. Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAylor Posted June 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Thanks again for all your input! You have given us much valuable information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richfaa Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 We have had the Mor Ryde IS on both our Montanas since 2006 with not a single problem and over 130K miles traveled.Give MorRyde a call with your concerns. Quote Helen and I are long timers ..08 F-350 Ford,LB,CC,6.4L,4X4, Dually,4:10 diff dragging around a 2013 Montana 3402 Big Sky SKP 100137. North Ridgeville, Ohio in the summer, sort of and where ever it is warm in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dapperdan Posted June 23, 2019 Report Share Posted June 23, 2019 If you are in the area or can travel to MORryde have them check your springs, their service shop is second to none! We were just in for a "routine alignment", the tech spotted two bad (torn) springs, we had to have them replaced. Keep in mind there's a 5 year warranty on those, they replace "N/C" if you're within warranty! MORryde treats you like royalty while you're visiting their service shop! Beautiful waiting area, beverages supplied, lunch IF you're there that long AND a T shirt! Oh, and WIFI too. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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