spindrift Posted June 17, 2019 Report Share Posted June 17, 2019 Great lesson to be learned here. Congrats on getting it figured out. Very, very glad to hear you didn't have to go rooting around in the harness. Quote 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 Guess I’m just dumb but if it was just a software issue why did it take 13 years to show up? Quote 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 In some of the electronics I work on, wear on vinyl gears meshing together will throw timing off enough to throw a code. We often get software that changes timing tolerances to compensate. Much easier to keep the product firmware/software up to date than to replace worn components. Cheaper too. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Parrformance said: In some of the electronics I work on, wear on vinyl gears meshing together will throw timing off enough to throw a code. We often get software that changes timing tolerances to compensate. Much easier to keep the product firmware/software up to date than to replace worn components. Cheaper too. Please indulge me so I can learn. In this case no codes were thrown. If the ECM was out of tolerance, shouldn’t that be programmed in to throw a code? Edited June 18, 2019 by SuiteSuccess Quote 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted June 18, 2019 Report Share Posted June 18, 2019 A guy had a “clutch issue” - clutch was not opening to easily engage low gear from neutral. I had to shut down the engine put in gear then start to drive it into bay 12. We had a poll as to what was needing repair. “Clutch I think” said customer. “Ya it has a million miles!” said young Grasshopper apprentice. “The crankshaft is in 2 pieces” said this writer. “Harrumph!” said the people. There were no codes. Software nor a clutch fixed it. An overhaul including a rebuilt crank did. The yellow engine had hauled 63 tonnes for 4 days like that. HD diesels are tough critters. Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 6:50 PM, Flying Finn said: he had to wipe out the old software from the ECM and install all the new stuff Brad, sounds like a Windows issue! ha ha. Glad it's fixed. Quote Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Finn Posted June 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Been on the road and at least 3 shops since last week. Have about 24 hours sitting in lounges. I was told the software update fixed the problem. Got back to the camp ground and everything worked fine......hence my belief everything was well. The next day leave the camp ground, coffee in hand thinking this is going to be great ride to the North Shore for the summer.......wrong!! The accelerator again goes to the floor without response from the engine. So much for a software update. I go back to TRX tuck shop. Still no codes. Trace wires to ECM no resistance. Put in a new peddle sensor. Assured everything is well. This time insist on a test drive. Peddle response fails again. Decided to spend the night at their facility. Decide these guy don't know what is going on. Talk to service manager, he is gracious enough to waive the fees. How fortunate for me. I head to CIT Volvo up I-90. They run a wire trace on the peddle to the ECM and mysteriously find resistance. They open the wire harness junction box at the fire wall and you guessed it....corroded due to water leak. Tech says can replace all the bad female pins and clean up the male pins, reassemble. Cost $900.00. Truck runs great. Overnight at a rest stop near Cheteek, WI. Leave next morning and peddle fails again. Able to get to my destination on the North Shore. At a loss as what to do. I feel like I wasted 900 bucks. To far away to return to CIT. Any ideas would be very much welcomed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Time to learn harness repair. A phone call to CIT may yield some $$$ back, or other forms of help. Can't hurt to ask. It seems they're getting it narrowed down, though. I'd be looking back into the junction they worked in, looking for anymore corrosion, or suspect looking wires. I'd expect to see signs of electric grease in there, but if not, add some, after a good cleaning/inspection. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 Just to be clear...are we talking about an N14 or an ISX? Might want to get your hands on a wiring diagram and identify every single ground that comes off that electrical system. It seems as though every time someone messes with the wiring you have some success. Biggest mistake is to assume that you only need to clean battery and engine grounds. Always cringe when someone says they replaced the "bad" pins. What criteria did they use to define "bad"? Quote 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 It sounds like you have a short in the harness somewhere. Every time someone messes around in the area, it corrects itself. I would trace the wires all the way from end to end. See if there is more corrosion, or a rub thru somewhere that is grounding a wire out. If a pin, terminal end, wire crimp fitting has corrosion in the wire at the connection, chances are there is more corrosion further up the wire. Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 At this point, it might be best to install a whole new harness, especially if you're finding corrosion at multiple locations. Quote 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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