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After reviewing the Dish Network Website regarding adding an EHD to my 211 Z receiver, I decided to give it a try.

The DISH instructions say the hard drive must be between 0.5tb and 2.0tb, and must conform to USB 2.0 standards, and must be externally powered and not rely on the USB to provide power to the unit.

Here is my experience: 
I found  the availability of powered EHDs to be outdated technology and now almost non existent. I could only find one unit (MY BOOK) and it was 1 tb and about the size of a paperback book. It seems almost all the EHDs being made today are quite small, only USB powered, and comply with USB 3.0 standards. So, I purchased a Seagate Portable 2 tb  USB 3.0 compliant EHD from Amazon  SEAGATE PORTABLE  USB 3.0 2tb EHD for about $65. It is not much larger than a credit card. It seems the 3.0 USB is backward compatible with the USB 2.0, and that this unit has sufficient USB power to work with the receiver without an external power source. I just powered down the receiver, (pressed the power button on the remote), plugged the included USB 3.0 cable into the EHD and connected it to the 211 Z USB port, and when I pushed the power button on the receiver to turn it back on, it found the EHD and gave a number to call DISH to have it authorized. There is a one time fee of $40 which I had to agree to (to be added to my next bill).

After that, the DISH tech started the process, and the screen started downloading the authorization, and formatting the EHD. If there had been anything already recorded or otherwise entered into the EHD, it would be erased when formatted. It took about 30 minutes or so for the process to complete, and when finished, the EHD was installed and working. As a bonus, I found the Program Guide had been extended from the normal 2 day guide of the 211 Z to a 9 day guide, which makes it much more usable. It also allows scrolling back, pausing etc. on live programming similar to the other DISH receivers. 

I can't guarantee all the newer USB 3.0 EHDs will work, but they probably will if between 0.5 tb and 2.0 tb, but this Seagate unit worked for me. I''m pretty sure that most non powered USBs will work if plugged into a powered USB hub connected to the 211 Z. if necessary.

The only drawback is that as the 211 Z is a single tuner receiver, it cannot record one program while watching another, but I can live with that.

 

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10 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said:

K5RCD- 

Thanks!  I have a Hopper, but don't have DVR capability.... I don't think.  I'll look into this.

 

I have the Hopper3 and it will record up to 16 shows at once with build-in DVR. I can't even begin to imagine using all 16 at once but at least for now I NEVER have a recording conflict like I did with the VIP722.

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I did the same thing but when I called Dish the tech set it up at no charge, I used a Seagate 2TB solid state EHD so I don't think they are fussy about the specs.

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On 4/26/2019 at 5:46 PM, K5RCD said:

After reviewing the Dish Network Website regarding adding an EHD to my 211 Z receiver, I decided to give it a try.

The DISH instructions say the hard drive must be between 0.5tb and 2.0tb, and must conform to USB 2.0 standards, and must be externally powered and not rely on the USB to provide power to the unit.

Here is my experience: 
I found  the availability of powered EHDs to be outdated technology and now almost non existent. I could only find one unit (MY BOOK) and it was 1 tb and about the size of a paperback book. It seems almost all the EHDs being made today are quite small, only USB powered, and comply with USB 3.0 standards. So, I purchased a Seagate Portable 2 tb  USB 3.0 compliant EHD from Amazon  SEAGATE PORTABLE  USB 3.0 2tb EHD for about $65. It is not much larger than a credit card. It seems the 3.0 USB is backward compatible with the USB 2.0, and that this unit has sufficient USB power to work with the receiver without an external power source. I just powered down the receiver, (pressed the power button on the remote), plugged the included USB 3.0 cable into the EHD and connected it to the 211 Z USB port, and when I pushed the power button on the receiver to turn it back on, it found the EHD and gave a number to call DISH to have it authorized. There is a one time fee of $40 which I had to agree to (to be added to my next bill).

After that, the DISH tech started the process, and the screen started downloading the authorization, and formatting the EHD. If there had been anything already recorded or otherwise entered into the EHD, it would be erased when formatted. It took about 30 minutes or so for the process to complete, and when finished, the EHD was installed and working. As a bonus, I found the Program Guide had been extended from the normal 2 day guide of the 211 Z to a 9 day guide, which makes it much more usable. It also allows scrolling back, pausing etc. on live programming similar to the other DISH receivers. 

I can't guarantee all the newer USB 3.0 EHDs will work, but they probably will if between 0.5 tb and 2.0 tb, but this Seagate unit worked for me. I''m pretty sure that most non powered USBs will work if plugged into a powered USB hub connected to the 211 Z. if necessary.

The only drawback is that as the 211 Z is a single tuner receiver, it cannot record one program while watching another, but I can live with that.

 

I've wanted to do the external hard drive thing for a number of years. After reading this helpful post I ordered the Seagate unit for my 211 Z receiver. Got it activated and formatted, all well. Worked perfectly. Even set a couple movies to tape. Went out to the rig two days later and the receiver would not even turn on without unplugging the HD. Now it's working again but doesn't see the HD. Any ideas?

Thanks and regards.

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On 4/26/2019 at 3:46 PM, K5RCD said:

After reviewing the Dish Network Website regarding adding an EHD to my 211 Z receiver, I decided to give it a try.

The DISH instructions say the hard drive must be between 0.5tb and 2.0tb, and must conform to USB 2.0 standards, and must be externally powered and not rely on the USB to provide power to the unit.

Here is my experience: 
I found  the availability of powered EHDs to be outdated technology and now almost non existent. I could only find one unit (MY BOOK) and it was 1 tb and about the size of a paperback book. It seems almost all the EHDs being made today are quite small, only USB powered, and comply with USB 3.0 standards. So, I purchased a Seagate Portable 2 tb  USB 3.0 compliant EHD from Amazon  SEAGATE PORTABLE  USB 3.0 2tb EHD for about $65. It is not much larger than a credit card. It seems the 3.0 USB is backward compatible with the USB 2.0, and that this unit has sufficient USB power to work with the receiver without an external power source. I just powered down the receiver, (pressed the power button on the remote), plugged the included USB 3.0 cable into the EHD and connected it to the 211 Z USB port, and when I pushed the power button on the receiver to turn it back on, it found the EHD and gave a number to call DISH to have it authorized. There is a one time fee of $40 which I had to agree to (to be added to my next bill).

After that, the DISH tech started the process, and the screen started downloading the authorization, and formatting the EHD. If there had been anything already recorded or otherwise entered into the EHD, it would be erased when formatted. It took about 30 minutes or so for the process to complete, and when finished, the EHD was installed and working. As a bonus, I found the Program Guide had been extended from the normal 2 day guide of the 211 Z to a 9 day guide, which makes it much more usable. It also allows scrolling back, pausing etc. on live programming similar to the other DISH receivers. 

I can't guarantee all the newer USB 3.0 EHDs will work, but they probably will if between 0.5 tb and 2.0 tb, but this Seagate unit worked for me. I''m pretty sure that most non powered USBs will work if plugged into a powered USB hub connected to the 211 Z. if necessary.

The only drawback is that as the 211 Z is a single tuner receiver, it cannot record one program while watching another, but I can live with that.

 

K5RCD,

I have read posts where people have been able to get the newer EHD working, however its spotty at best with what brand will do ect..  The reason they say to use a EHD with its own power source is the recievers are not built to power an EHD, so the power the Ehd is sucking off the receiver will cause an early failure for the reciever. The receivers have enough power for itself.   It is built to read from the usb ports, not power to them.  So although the hardware*can* do it,  there are going to be reprecusions.

That being said, you can pick up a used EHD from ebay for about 35-50$ 1-2TB that will be a dedicated 2.0 signal, that will in fact do what you want. We DIY and own all our own gear and I learned last year how to setup and point for rv use as well as home use from this board. 

We have 5 2Tb drives across our setup, we bought used from ebay that were 2.0 transfer rates and they all do just fine.  Another thing I have read is that using higher than 2Tb and /or 3.0 tranfer rate, also causes failure in the EHD because the software installed during the format process is maxed out at 2TB, so the software gets confused past 2TB and will fail on the EHD and result in loss of/missing recordings.  We tried about 5 of the 3.0 backwards compatible drives before throwing in the towel and went used.  We run Hoppers/Joeys and 722ks and all WD Mybooks in our setup and we move them between receivers when we want to since all the formatting on the drives is compatible between these models. 

Good Luck.

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On 2/12/2020 at 11:45 AM, Dutch_12078 said:

An easy fix for a USB powered drive and a Dish receiver is to connect the drive using a powered hub.

 

That would resolve the issue.

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I did the external powered USB hub with my now sold Venue 11 Pro and other Windows tablets. My WD 1TB passport and several others work fine powered by the USB ports. But all brands make the external plug in drives:

Plug in external drives:

I have this one, it gas a power plug of its own: https://www.amazon.com/Elements-Desktop-Hard-Drive-WDBWLG0040HBK-NESN/dp/B00ODEGWN8/ref=sr_1_6?hvadid=78271603465607&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=external+desktop+hard+drive&qid=1582274921&s=electronics&sr=1-6

The Passport has some extra bells and whistles

https://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Desktop-External-Drive/dp/B01LQQHL4E/ref=sr_1_6?hvadid=78271603465607&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=external+desktop+hard+drive&qid=1582274773&s=electronics&sr=1-6

I could not do without my BlacX external drive dock. I have about 20 3.5" desktop and 2.5" laptop drives I use for storage. This USB 3 dock has its own power supply. https://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-External-Enclosure-Docking-ST0005U-D/dp/B01I5RC6DS

Just Google "desktop external drives" and the results will include a few USB only powered drives, but most will be what you're looking for.

If you have some internal desktop and/or laptop drives lying around (or 20 or so like me) the Drive Dock will be your best bang for the buck.

 

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