Moresmoke Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 34 minutes ago, Parrformance said: Ok so just a thought, with some motor homes the tag axle has a single wheel. For those that are not singled, what are the thoughts if removing a wheel from each side of the non drive axle? Only non drive axle I have is on the front. I think if I remove a tire from each side I will have problems? On busses/coaches that have a tandem rear, the second axle is there primarily for ride quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Parrformance said: Ok so just a thought, with some motor homes the tag axle has a single wheel. For those that are not singled, what are the thoughts if removing a wheel from each side of the non drive axle? Unless your none drive axle has no deferential, a dolly axle, then it is a drive axle. Under normal conditions when a tandem truck is traveling down a straight and flat road all 4 wheels are receiving approximately the same amount of power. This changes on corners and slippery conditions. There are three differentials in the usual tandem set up one per axle and one more for the divider. The wheel that spins first is the one with the least traction. By taking of one wheel per side you could create a difference in traction between the two drive axles, this might show up in tight turning or on slippery roads or mud. Some have removed a wheel from each drive axle, the concern is side loading of the bearings. There is debate as to the importance of this in our application. I have done this with my 3500 when traveling far and light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan412 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 In Canada at least Vancouver where I have had tires changed several times on side of the road. Tire guy torqued with a torque wrench. I asked why he was doing that and he said it was the law in Canada and told me that I should stop by the tire shop on the way back through town and have them retorqued. 2011 Volvo D13 485/1750 Eaton 13 Speed 2016 Montana 3820FK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept99 Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Jeez Georgia, who p**d in your wheaties this morning. I just dip my threaded nuts in BBQ sauce, which works like lube when first applied wet and like Red loctite when cured out...Purfect Paul & Paula + Daisy the amazing wiggle worm dog... 2001 Volvo 770 Autoshift, Singled, w/ Aluminum Bed - Toy Draggin 2013 395AMP XLR Thunderbolt Toy Hauler 2013 Smart Passion 2012 CanAm Spyder RT 2013 Harley Davidson Street Glide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 4 hours ago, adept99 said: I just dip my threaded nuts in BBQ sauce, Just wait until we see you and Paula again..............🤣 KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 I can see that the next meeting we all get together will be a lot of fun, a lube specialist meeting up with a guy that dips his nuts in Barbecue sauce. No wonder Daisy stays close to you. 😎 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredhdt Posted March 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 13 hours ago, rickeieio said: Just did a bit of research on torque sticks.. I'll not be wasting any $$ on those. Can you share your research? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danandfreda Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 You guys going to be at the ecr ? Your hilarious can’t wait to meet you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, Danandfreda said: You guys going to be at the ecr ? Your hilarious can’t wait to meet you We will be there, pretty sure Paul will be. If you think this is funny, wait until you get a bunch of us in person and throw Roger and Mike into the mix. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 I have torque sticks for smaller wheels and I did not calibrate my air gun, I have found them to work just fine and they are much more accurate then just stopping the air gun. I plan on getting one for 1" gun I will let people know what I think of it in late spring, in Vermont that's June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEasy Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 I carry a long 1-inch drive 750 ft lb max torque wrench. Bought two at a gov't auction years ago. Would bring the other to the ECR if anyone is interested. A 1 to 3/4 reducer required if you don't have a 1" drive socket. I use the 53:1 torque multiplier to remove the nuts. Chet & Deb '01 Volvo 660 w/ Smart '19 Forest River Columbus 320RS 5th wheel 2022 Chev 2500HD Long Bed Retired CWO4, USN and federal service Electronics Tech/Network Engineer/Welder/Machinist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 9 hours ago, bigredhdt said: Can you share your research? I did a quick search on "torque stick" and found a video that, while not scientific, was at least logical. It pointed out that you need to find the correct setting for your impact wrench (battery wrench, via switch, or air via adjusting pressure) before the "stick" can do it's job, and if your going to that much trouble, perhaps it would be easier to just grab a torque wrench. Then it went on to perform a series of "tests", setting a fastener to the proper torque, then putting on his impact, set to the closest appropriate torque, with "stick" attached, and consistently over tightened each fastener. I already have several torque wrenches, and it's not that hard to do it the proper way, and know I haven't compromised my fastener. Oh, we'll be at the ECR too. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adept99 Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Anybody else (besides our very own token farmer) familiar with the term "Farmer Tight"? Tickets for the ECR show are limited, act now... Paul & Paula + Daisy the amazing wiggle worm dog... 2001 Volvo 770 Autoshift, Singled, w/ Aluminum Bed - Toy Draggin 2013 395AMP XLR Thunderbolt Toy Hauler 2013 Smart Passion 2012 CanAm Spyder RT 2013 Harley Davidson Street Glide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 Paul, Just don’t get near any grills. Just sayin’🤪 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, adept99 said: Anybody else (besides our very own token farmer) familiar with the term "Farmer Tight"? Tickets for the ECR show are limited, act now... Ya. But you also hafta say “click”... "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted March 10, 2019 Report Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 hour ago, adept99 said: Anybody else (besides our very own token farmer) familiar with the term "Farmer Tight"? Tickets for the ECR show are limited, act now... For those less in tune with the agricultural terminology, Farmer Tight is torqued properly plus ~1/2 turn. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 3/10/2019 at 12:58 PM, rickeieio said: For those less in tune with the agricultural terminology, Farmer Tight is torqued properly plus ~1/2 turn. Then roughneck tight is as tight as you can get it with a wrench, then another half turn with a slugging wrench. If it can’t be broken or stolen, it will get lost. -oilfield motto 98 379 with 12.7 DD LG Dodge w/5.9 CTD Chrome habit I’m trying to kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 As a few folks might expect.........sooner or later when a few of the..........Bad-Boyz.........here start getting .......bad.......regarding what kinda chemical compounds that they ............marinate........nuts in just to somehow arrive at torque value.........I had to put my onehundreddollarbill into the mix here so......... Back in my save-the-world-dayz.............i was killing time in a semi-commie-enemy-of-tha-state-country and they had a engine rebuilding shop that rebuilt BIG-A$$ Russian (Whoops back in those days .......Soviet) Radial engines that had a GAINT one throw crankshaft with a HUGE ROLLER BEARING that was inserted in the master-and-articulating-rod assembly. One piston, the uppermost one in the animation, has a master rod with a direct attachment to the crankshaft. The remaining pistons pin their connecting-rods' attachments to rings around the edge of the master rod...........whew..... Anyhow this Soviet / Russkie engine with the HUGE ROLLER BEARING was riding on a........BIG-REMOVABLE-CRANK-PIN that was held into a taper-bore in the inner-crank-counterweight-cheek with a BIG-A$$ NUT that had a torque-value that was so HUGE that it was deemed to impractical to measure using direct-reading-torque-wrenches so..............what did the Commie-Pinko-Engine-Engineer'z do??? Heck the Commie-Pinko-Engine-Engineer'z had the taper-ground-crank-pin machined to a EXACT end to end length at 59f temp by Commie-Pinko-Machinist'z and then.............ALL the Commie-Pinko-Mechanic'z (and me) would grab onto a HUGE-LONG Cheeter-Bar and TIGHTEN the BIG-A$$ NUT...........UNTIL..........Igor, the BIG-A$$-Chief-Mechanic-Comrade would SHOUT out some HUGE-COMMIE-PINKO-CUSS-WORD and everyone would let go of the cheeter-bar (except-me.....because I did not know the Commie-cuss-word)..........AND......then Igor would take a BIG-A$$-TWO-FOOT-MICROMETER and measure the length of the now stretched crank-pin length.............AND..........IF........we-Comrades stretched the pin too long it had the be removed and THROWN AWAY...........if we-comrades under-torqued the nut and did NOT stretch the crank-pin enough........the crank-pin had the be removed and THROWN AWAY......... Sooooo.........you see folks it was NOT the fall of the Berlin wall that caused the Soviet-state to fail.........NO.......it was ME twisting the Commie-Pinko-Nuts that caused the Soviet state to fail.......... Like I have said many times........few folks know failure like I do.........(heck I "culluded" with Ruskies before anyone knew what "culluded" was in style) Drive on...........(Twist those Commie-Pinko-Nuts to.......Failure) 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 Definition “Pinko”. “From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Pinko is a pejorative coined in 1925 in the United States to describe a person regarded as being sympathetic to communism, though not necessarily a Communist Party member. It has since come to be used to describe anyone perceived to have leftist or socialist sympathies.” In other words not quite red. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 3 hours ago, SuiteSuccess said: Definition “Pinko”. “From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Pinko is a pejorative coined in 1925 in the United States to describe a person regarded as being sympathetic to communism, though not necessarily a Communist Party member. It has since come to be used to describe anyone perceived to have leftist or socialist sympathies.” In other words not quite red. S S, Right on.......all I know........they sure have BIG NUTS ........but your only allowed to TORQUE them ONE time. Drive on........( Never much cared for Pink-0........but have been told that I might have a yellow streak at times) 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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